Re: FW: bash scripting

1999-07-26 Thread David Karlin
 I understand Michael's frustration at having to answer the same questions
 500 times.
 Maybe a big bold link on the Debian home page that says Have a question?
 Look here
 first which takes the user directly to the search input box on the mail
 archive
 search engine?

How about a .signature which points to a page which gives newbie info 
including;
 
how to unsubscribe,
guidelines/etiquette for posting, 
what to do before posting,
answers to other questions people are tired of hearing,
how to use the archives' search engine. 

This could be similar to the old mail -s unsubscribe... sig that
used to appear at the bottom of mail from debian-user, but more
intelligable to a newbie since mail -s unsubscribe... assumed
knowledge of the command-line mail utility, and that the newbie
was on a *nix system, whereas many newbies are still sending mail
from their winbox or MAC while setting up their Debian systems.

--D

P.S. If Michael is frustrated in repeating his answers, he is certainly
free to ignore any post (and, perhaps let someone else take a shot at 
it).  This is better (IMO) than berating someone who is trying to
learn something.



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FW: bash scripting

1999-07-26 Thread JARDINE, Jeff
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Talbot-Wilson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 4:54 AM
 To:   Ben Lutgens
 Cc:   debian user list
 Subject:  Re: bash scripting 
 
 It is bad netiquette to paste part of the man page, because it creates 
 traffic delivering something that the recipient already has.  And no-one 
 owes the newbie that kind of favor.  He can cut from the man page 
 himself.  He has it, and he can do it.  The rest of us are busy people 
 and life is running out.
 
 Sorry to butt in.  I'm a Linux newbie, and have not yet been flamed for
 asking questions because I have the patience to read pages upon pages of
 documentation.  I can sympathize with someone who has a question but would
 rather not study a 500 page manual for the answer, particularly if someone
 else can spit out the answer in 5 seconds.  Just because someone is a
 Linux expert doesn't mean their time is more valuable than the newbie's.
 Some Linux newbies are tenured professors.  They are busy people, and life
 is running out.
 
 Speaking for myself, I *don't* already have the man pages.  I have the
 base kernel installed, but have run into complications installing the rest
 of Debian, which (I presume) contains the man command.  Thanks to the
 folks on this list who have sent helpful suggestions.
 
 Jeff J