Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-30 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

 UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
 most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our
 unofficial Pine maintainer to create a better default pine.conf.
 

Sounds like a good idea.  I'd make it a example though and leave the
default  configuration restricted.  Less rope to hang yourself and that
sort of thing.  so anyone want to send me the perfect pine.conf?

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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-30 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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Well, I've attached the feature-list I have included in my site's
/etc/pine.conf.  The feature list is where most stuff is enabled.  Other
stuff is pretty site-specific.  Maybe we could offer a pine.conf that has
color turned on or something?  I haven't played with that at all, but I've
seen it used and it could be worth looking at.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:

 On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 
  UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
  most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our
  unofficial Pine maintainer to create a better default pine.conf.
  
 
 Sounds like a good idea.  I'd make it a example though and leave the
 default  configuration restricted.  Less rope to hang yourself and that
 sort of thing.  so anyone want to send me the perfect pine.conf?
 
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feature-list=enable-suspend,
enable-tab-completion,
enable-full-header-cmd,
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reply-always-uses-reply-to,
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enable-goto-in-file-browser,
allow-talk,
save-will-not-delete,
enable-aggregate-command-set,
enable-alternate-editor-cmd,
no-compose-send-offers-first-filter


Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-29 Thread Nitebirdz
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Philippe wrote:

 Hi Adam,
 
 it takes just seconds to filter mail in Pine. From main menu, type S for
 setup. Then R for rules. Then F for filter. Then A for add. Give the rule
 a nickname by replacing the no value set in the menu. Put the Debian
 user list address on the Cc: line. At the bottom, choose the Folder you
 want it moved to. Exit. You're half-way done! Repeat to set another rule
 for which From: is the Debian address while Cc: is unspecified. That's
 it.
 
 pine is great. I've never used mutt. What's good about it?
 

It may be a rhetorical question, but just in case... some people like the
fact that mutt automatically shows all the messages in threads news-style,
which makes it a lot easier to read messages from the mailing lists.  I
found a workaround to do something similar in pine though by sorting the
messages according to the subject line and the date, so that all messages
on the same topic are bundled together.  I also like pine better.  ;-)

I got another question for you though.  How do you select say all messages
in a certain folder in pine?  Or perhaps from message 1 to message 45, in
order to save them, delete them... whatever.  


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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-29 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Nitebirdz wrote:

 I got another question for you though.  How do you select say all messages
 in a certain folder in pine?  Or perhaps from message 1 to message 45, in
 order to save them, delete them... whatever.  
 

Use the semicolon (;) to mark messages.  Hitting ; willl bring up a list
of selection criteria to use in marking the messages.  You can select by
numbers, dates, text matching, status, etc.  You'll notice an 'X' in the
leftmost column of the index screen next to each of the items that
matched.  Then hit the 'a' key to perform as action such as delete, reply,
pipe, etc.

There might be a special config option you need in order to turn this
feature on.  If it doesn't work for you, let me know and I'll check my
config for a special setting.  IMO the biggest problem with pine is that
UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our
unofficial Pine maintainer to create a better default pine.conf.

HTH,
noah

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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-29 Thread Stuart Ballard
Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 
 There might be a special config option you need in order to turn this
 feature on.  If it doesn't work for you, let me know and I'll check my
 config for a special setting.  IMO the biggest problem with pine is that
 UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
 most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our
 unofficial Pine maintainer to create a better default pine.conf.

First act for any (advanced) pine user should be to go into the config
and turn on just about every enable-*-command flag. It's been a long
time since I used pine (these days I have a graphical workstation ;) -
plus I try to keep my vrms output as small as possible) but you should
certainly turn on everything interesting-looking in the config before
you start :)

Stuart.



Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-29 Thread Ernest Johanson
To be able to select messages and perform commands on them choose the
enable-aggregate-command-set option in the config section.

Ernest Johanson
Web Systems Administrator
Fuller Theological Seminary


On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Nitebirdz wrote:

 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:17:17 -0500 (CDT)
 From: Nitebirdz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Philippe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: adam.edgar [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Filtering Email in Pine
 
 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Philippe wrote:
 
  Hi Adam,
  
  it takes just seconds to filter mail in Pine. From main menu, type S for
  setup. Then R for rules. Then F for filter. Then A for add. Give the rule
  a nickname by replacing the no value set in the menu. Put the Debian
  user list address on the Cc: line. At the bottom, choose the Folder you
  want it moved to. Exit. You're half-way done! Repeat to set another rule
  for which From: is the Debian address while Cc: is unspecified. That's
  it.
  
  pine is great. I've never used mutt. What's good about it?
  
 
 It may be a rhetorical question, but just in case... some people like the
 fact that mutt automatically shows all the messages in threads news-style,
 which makes it a lot easier to read messages from the mailing lists.  I
 found a workaround to do something similar in pine though by sorting the
 messages according to the subject line and the date, so that all messages
 on the same topic are bundled together.  I also like pine better.  ;-)
 
 I got another question for you though.  How do you select say all messages
 in a certain folder in pine?  Or perhaps from message 1 to message 45, in
 order to save them, delete them... whatever.  
 
 
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 Nitebirdz
 http://www.linuxnovice.org
 Tips, articles, news, links...
 



Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-29 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 04:01:37PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

 config for a special setting.  IMO the biggest problem with pine is that

Aside from the licensing?  :-)

 UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
 most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our

That's a perfectly reasonable decision for the target audience.  It's
very easy for people who don't know what their doing to seriously
misconfigure a mail client.

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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-28 Thread Philippe
Hi Adam,

it takes just seconds to filter mail in Pine. From main menu, type S for
setup. Then R for rules. Then F for filter. Then A for add. Give the rule
a nickname by replacing the no value set in the menu. Put the Debian
user list address on the Cc: line. At the bottom, choose the Folder you
want it moved to. Exit. You're half-way done! Repeat to set another rule
for which From: is the Debian address while Cc: is unspecified. That's
it.

pine is great. I've never used mutt. What's good about it?

Philip


On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, adam.edgar wrote:

 The Unix machine I get my mail on has only a few mail clients to choose
 from and Ive chosen pine for my use. Im new to it and have tried to
 discern how to set up a filter so that the mail from this list goes to a
 seperate folder if any one know how to do this I would be thankful for
 their help.   
   Adam S Edgar
 
 
 



Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-27 Thread adam.edgar
The Unix machine I get my mail on has only a few mail clients to choose
from and Ive chosen pine for my use. Im new to it and have tried to
discern how to set up a filter so that the mail from this list goes to a
seperate folder if any one know how to do this I would be thankful for
their help. 
Adam S Edgar



Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-27 Thread Christian Surchi
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 10:38:29AM -0500, adam.edgar wrote:
 The Unix machine I get my mail on has only a few mail clients to choose
 from and Ive chosen pine for my use. Im new to it and have tried to
 discern how to set up a filter so that the mail from this list goes to a
 seperate folder if any one know how to do this I would be thankful for
 their help.   

I suggest mutt as mail client and not pine. You can filter what you like
with procmail! :-)

bye
Christian



Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-27 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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Most Unix mailers don't do filtering themselves.  Instead you should use
procmail.  It's an incredibly flexible filtering program.  Here's the
procmail recipe I use for this list:
:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
./mail/archive/debian-user

This redirects mail to debian-user to mail/archive/debian-user in my home
directory.

You'll need to create a .forward file to have all your mail piped through
procmail.  It should look more or less like:
|/usr/bin/procmail

(the quotes ARE part of the .forward contents)

Then you'll need to configure pine to use incoming message folders (I
think the option is enable-incoming-folders or something).

And don't listen to those folks who'll tell you to use Mutt.  It's got an
awful interface and an even worse configuration mechanism...

noah  --looking forward to yet another Pine vs. Mutt flamewar

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, adam.edgar wrote:

 The Unix machine I get my mail on has only a few mail clients to choose
 from and Ive chosen pine for my use. Im new to it and have tried to
 discern how to set up a filter so that the mail from this list goes to a
 seperate folder if any one know how to do this I would be thankful for
 their help.   
   Adam S Edgar
 
 
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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

2000-06-27 Thread John Galt

Since procmail isn't a part of mutt, I presume he can do just as well with
procmail and pine?

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Christian Surchi wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 10:38:29AM -0500, adam.edgar wrote:
  The Unix machine I get my mail on has only a few mail clients to choose
  from and Ive chosen pine for my use. Im new to it and have tried to
  discern how to set up a filter so that the mail from this list goes to a
  seperate folder if any one know how to do this I would be thankful for
  their help. 
 
 I suggest mutt as mail client and not pine. You can filter what you like
 with procmail! :-)
 
 bye
 Christian
 
 
 

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