Was WordPerfect Opinions?--Now FreeWWWeb
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Jonathan Markevich wrote: Has anyone tried WordPerfect Office 2000? I have three days to decide or lose a $15 discount. I am using 8 download edition and am relatively happy, but it's obviously missing some useful features like templates and a manual. It's okay. Very buggy, but with more features, including some that are actually useful (e.g. in WP9 they've brought back Print Preview. I haven't tried any apps other than WP9. Sorry, I have to manually respond through Yahoo because Freewwweb is RETARDED. Thus, no true reply What do you mean no true reply? Is it slow? Yes, but it's faster than StarOffice. Excellent! On what sort of machine? Or am I better off getting the commercial version of 8? Do you need a spreadsheet? A presentation program? Not really and no, never. Will those make the difference? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com -- -bob Particle physicists are always trying to hold a meeting, but whenever they decide on a place, the time changes. ** * Robert Kerr, The morphing guy. *MS 0847 Sandia National Labs * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Albuquerque NM 87185-0847 * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Phone: (505) 844-8606 * * http://www.et.byu.edu/~kerrr* Fax: (505) 844-9297 * **
Re: Was WordPerfect Opinions?--Now FreeWWWeb
This is why! Grr... debian-user@lists.debian.org: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:debian-user@lists.debian.org: host smtp.smartworld.net [216.70.64.25]: 550 debian-user@lists.debian.org... Relaying denied [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host smtp.smartworld.net [216.70.64.25]: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from jonathan by fennywood with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12fqxc-0002MM-00; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:15:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:15:35 -0400 From: Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Was WordPerfect Opinions?--Now FreeWWWeb Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from Robert Kerr on Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:21:34AM X-Uptime: 5:12pm up 2 days, 17:19, 5 users, load average: 1.15, 0.63, 0.24 Sender: Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:21:34AM -0600, Robert Kerr wrote: On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Jonathan Markevich wrote: Sorry, I have to manually respond through Yahoo because Freewwweb is RETARDED. Thus, no true reply What do you mean no true reply? Hope this gets out... I can't hit reply because their SMTP servers and DHCP servers are criminally out of sync. It rejects about 40% of the IP addresses I dial up to. Most of my mail bounces. I do NOT recommend them for Linux users yet. Wait, we'll see if I *really* bad-mouth them... :) -- Jonathan Markevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: FreeWWWeb
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I don't remember exactly what I did to get mine going, but I did wind up having to use minicom to figure out what was happening. Then I think I had to make an entry in pap-secrets for freewwweb (I can't currently access that box to look around at the moment, so I'm having to do this by (poor) memory). Thanks, but I don't know minicom that good to use PAP scripts. I cannot just let it call the number, and I get a login screen, but that rejects everything I try. pap-secrets has an entry in it for freewwweb, but still it doesn't work. I got my freewwweb account working using CHAP. I only have this for backup for my flakey @home account and haven't used it much since I set it up. @home went out the other night and I tried it and it no longer accepts my login. @home came back on before I farted around with it too much so I'm not sure what changed. I got signed off the deb-devel mailing list because of bounces to my freewwweb mail account, and I can only pop home my mail one time out of three (failed password) so I think they are going through some problems. Too bad because most of the other free services don't support Linux -- you have to run Windows/Mac and put up with the advertising bars. Oh well. Perhaps soon they'll get the wrinkles out of broadband over power lines.
Re: FreeWWWeb
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 16:59:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my freewwweb account working using CHAP. I only have this for backup for my flakey @home account and haven't used it much since I set it up. @home went out the other night and I tried it and it no longer accepts my login. @home came back on before I farted around with it too much so I'm not sure what changed. I believe there is a requirement that you use it a certain number of hours per month or they with shut the account down. I can't remember what the time is. I've signed up for this, and it worked for me just by setting it up under pppconfig using PAP. I had a problem with a Newcom modem that I finally got rid of. I couldn't connect at all with it. With a 3COM externall, it works great. -- Marc http://www.matwreck.org/marc
Re: FreeWWWeb
Bart Friederichs wrote: I don't remember exactly what I did to get mine going, but I did wind up having to use minicom to figure out what was happening. Then I think I had to make an entry in pap-secrets for freewwweb (I can't currently access that box to look around at the moment, so I'm having to do this by (poor) memory). Thanks, but I don't know minicom that good to use PAP scripts. I cannot just let it call the number, and I get a login screen, but that rejects everything I try. pap-secrets has an entry in it for freewwweb, but still it doesn't work. Bart PS i am considering paid internet. maybe they can connect me I'm not sure I was clear; I used minicom to make sure I was getting a login prompt and that the username/password I had actually passed that stage. Then I shut down minicom, and armed with the info that it's possible to get past the login, started wrestling again with pon/wvdial/xisp until I got them working. Just fire up minicom, then type ATDTphonenumber; when asked for a username, enter [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or whatever it is), then enter your password when prompted. If you get access, shut down minicom (Alt-X-Q maybe? I always forget and have to look in the help screen). Now you know that your username/password works, and you can try wvdial or pppconfig/pon, etc again. Notice that the username includes the @freewwweb.com part; is that insane or what?! I never could get fetchmail to work with the resultant address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@freewwweb.com or any other combination I could think of. I mean, I don't mean to complain, but having a _username_ include the @... part is just STUPID. With a capitol STUPID on that STUPID. Whew! That rant was refreshing.
Re: FreeWWWeb
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Kent West wrote: Notice that the username includes the @freewwweb.com part; is that insane or what?! I never could get fetchmail to work with the resultant address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@freewwweb.com or any other combination I could think of. My ~/.fetchmailrc says: poll mail.halteknet.com protocol pop3 user [EMAIL PROTECTED] password ... I can do fetchmail without any problem. The version: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fetchmail --version fetchmail: This is fetchmail release 5.2.3fetchmail: +NTLMfetchmail: +SDPSfetchmail: +NLS The username needs @domain because the ISP uses virtual mail server; by virtual means that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not the system user on the machine, it's just a user of the mail server (eg: qmail). Basically, the real address would be: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (domain is the ISP's domain). Oki
Re: FreeWWWeb
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: ... Just fire up minicom, then type ATDTphonenumber; when asked for a username, enter [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or whatever it is), then enter your password when prompted. If you get access, shut down minicom (Alt-X-Q maybe? I always forget and have to look in the help screen). Now you know that your username/password works, and you can try wvdial or pppconfig/pon, etc again. Notice that the username includes the @freewwweb.com part; is that insane or what?! I never could get fetchmail to work with the resultant address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@freewwweb.com or any other combination I could think of. I mean, I don't mean to complain, but having a _username_ include the @... part is just STUPID. With a capitol STUPID on that STUPID. You probably know this but you can play with the following until you get something that works, telnet freewwweb.com 110 user yourusername pass yourpass Then you have to get fetchmail to play nice with the information. As I said in an early msg, I was getting through about 1 time in 3. This is one attempt after the other. I don't know what would cause that and don't much care any more. Free access is popping up all over the place, high speed in some places if you have the right profile.
Re: FreeWWWeb
On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 12:59:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote: Hello, - snip - Notice that the username includes the @freewwweb.com part; is that insane or what?! I never could get fetchmail to work with the resultant address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@freewwweb.com or any other combination I Does encoding the '@' help ? kent%40freewwweb.com#freewwweb.com could think of. I mean, I don't mean to complain, but having a _username_ include the @... part is just STUPID. With a capitol STUPID on that STUPID. Regards, Robert -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
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Bart Friederichs wrote: Hi, I signed up for FreeWWWeb, the registration went OK, my POP works, only I cannot connect. I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my login and PAP authentication. When I try to login, my /var/log/syslog says PAP authentication failed. It requests my username and password OK (password is plain text in syslog). The FreeWWWeb support-for-linux page says I should check my /etc/ppp/options file. But I didn't touch that one. Anybody knows more on this (not so great) free webXS? Bart PS My first account didn't work because I used the 80 hrs already, according to the support people. And I didn't even ever connect! PPS When I choose PAP in pppconfig and chap-secrets exists, it uses CHAP. I guess something fairly wrong with my ppp ... -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I don't remember exactly what I did to get mine going, but I did wind up having to use minicom to figure out what was happening. Then I think I had to make an entry in pap-secrets for freewwweb (I can't currently access that box to look around at the moment, so I'm having to do this by (poor) memory). BTW, I typically connect at 33,600 on my 33.6 modem, whereas with my campus connection I typically get 32. Of course, these are just the numbers reported by xisp; I've never actually done any monitoring.
Re: FreeWWWeb
I don't remember exactly what I did to get mine going, but I did wind up having to use minicom to figure out what was happening. Then I think I had to make an entry in pap-secrets for freewwweb (I can't currently access that box to look around at the moment, so I'm having to do this by (poor) memory). Thanks, but I don't know minicom that good to use PAP scripts. I cannot just let it call the number, and I get a login screen, but that rejects everything I try. pap-secrets has an entry in it for freewwweb, but still it doesn't work. Bart PS i am considering paid internet. maybe they can connect me
FreeWWWeb
Hi, I signed up for FreeWWWeb, the registration went OK, my POP works, only I cannot connect. I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my login and PAP authentication. When I try to login, my /var/log/syslog says PAP authentication failed. It requests my username and password OK (password is plain text in syslog). The FreeWWWeb support-for-linux page says I should check my /etc/ppp/options file. But I didn't touch that one. Anybody knows more on this (not so great) free webXS? Bart PS My first account didn't work because I used the 80 hrs already, according to the support people. And I didn't even ever connect! PPS When I choose PAP in pppconfig and chap-secrets exists, it uses CHAP. I guess something fairly wrong with my ppp ...
FreeWWWeb
Hi, I signed up for FreeWWWeb, because some time ago people said it was good and had Linux capabilities. Well, signed up goed well, but when I try to connect, it says the following: ... Serial connection established Remote message: LCP connection close Exit (the words may be a bit different, I am not someone that remembers (error) messages exactly). It connects OK, but after that it closes the connection. I also told this to FreeWWWeb support (no answer yet) but perhaps I am doing something wrong. It looks like my password is rejected. I did a 'pppconfig' and used PAP as authentication protocol. tia Bart
Re: FreeWWWeb
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 02:28:10PM -0800, Bart Friederichs wrote: Hi, I signed up for FreeWWWeb, because some time ago people said it was good and had Linux capabilities. Well, signed up goed well, but when I try to connect, it says the following: ... Serial connection established Remote message: LCP connection close Exit (the words may be a bit different, I am not someone that remembers (error) messages exactly). It connects OK, but after that it closes the connection. I also told this to FreeWWWeb support (no answer yet) but perhaps I am doing something wrong. It looks like my password is rejected. You need to put @freewwweb.com after your username. HTH, Chris Gray
