From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Csanyi
Hello!

I have installed Debian Etch with software raid 1.

I am using for this two sata drives.

Is it possyble to turn this system to non software raid?

Doing so I wish to get the first sata drive to use with
Debian Etch as non software raid, and to use second
sata drive as a backup, and data drive.

Any advice will be appreciated!

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Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Benjamin Schmidt

Paul Csanyi wrote:

Hello!

I have installed Debian Etch with software raid 1.

I am using for this two sata drives.

Is it possyble to turn this system to non software raid?

Doing so I wish to get the first sata drive to use with
Debian Etch as non software raid, and to use second
sata drive as a backup, and data drive.

Any advice will be appreciated!



Hey Paul

I would do it this way:

1. Place your second harddisk to another bus (or plug it on over an 
usb-sata adapter) OR Remove in ~ /etc/mdadm the second disk.
2. Restart and boot from a newer kanotix live-cd (maybe others work 
also). With it, you can easily mount a raid partition.
3. Maybe repartition and format your first drive and copy the new files 
on it.

4. Write MBR and other things with lilo/grub (this is the tricky part).
5. Boot

Maybe someone else has a better solution. But that's the way I do such 
things. Fixes are welcome ;)


Best regards,
Benjamin Schmidt


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Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Csanyi
2008/1/15, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Benjamin Schmidt wrote:
  Paul Csanyi wrote:

  I have installed Debian Etch with software raid 1.
 
  I am using for this two sata drives.
 
  Is it possyble to turn this system to non software raid?
 
  Doing so I wish to get the first sata drive to use with
  Debian Etch as non software raid, and to use second
  sata drive as a backup, and data drive.
 
  1. Place your second harddisk to another bus (or plug it on over an
  usb-sata adapter) OR Remove in ~ /etc/mdadm the second disk.

 can't you just remove the second disk from mdadm and be done? I guess
 you should turn off the raid portions of the boot by

 update-rc.d -f mdadm-raid remove

 I've not tested this, so buyer beware.

Before that it is good maybe to edit fstab like bellow.
What do you think?

# software raid
#
#/dev/md0/boot   ext3defaults0   2
#/dev/md1noneswapsw  0   0
#/dev/md2/   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
#/dev/md3/home   ext3defaults0   2
#/dev/md4/adatok ext3defaults0   2

# GNU/Linux
#
/dev/sda3   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/sda5   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/sda6   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/sda7   /home   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/sda8   /adatok ext3defaults0   2

these abowe corresponds togeather (each - others).

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Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Benjamin Schmidt wrote:
 Paul Csanyi wrote:
 Hello!

 I have installed Debian Etch with software raid 1.

 I am using for this two sata drives.

 Is it possyble to turn this system to non software raid?

 Doing so I wish to get the first sata drive to use with
 Debian Etch as non software raid, and to use second
 sata drive as a backup, and data drive.

 1. Place your second harddisk to another bus (or plug it on over an 
 usb-sata adapter) OR Remove in ~ /etc/mdadm the second disk.

can't you just remove the second disk from mdadm and be done? I guess
you should turn off the raid portions of the boot by 

update-rc.d -f mdadm-raid remove

I've not tested this, so buyer beware. 

A


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Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:57:38AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
 I have installed Debian Etch with software raid 1.
 
 I am using for this two sata drives.
 
 Is it possyble to turn this system to non software raid?
 
 Doing so I wish to get the first sata drive to use with
 Debian Etch as non software raid, and to use second
 sata drive as a backup, and data drive.
 

Well, since its raid1, everything on disk 2 is on disk one.

Turn off the box, unplug disk 2, turn on the box.  The box will run
just fine with a degraded (one disk) raid1 array.  Remove the failed
disk from the array so that it isn't looking for it.

Turn off the box, plug disk2 back in, turn the box on.  The disk will
not be automatically put into the array.  I don't know where on the disk
the raid1 marker goes.  Normally, I'd say just dd if=/dev/zero the whole
drive but if its a 1T drive, that could take a while.  Don't know the
answer to this.

Doug.


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Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 05:23:53PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
 2008/1/15, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Benjamin Schmidt wrote:
   Paul Csanyi wrote:
 
   I have installed Debian Etch with software raid 1.
  
   I am using for this two sata drives.
  
   Is it possyble to turn this system to non software raid?
  
   Doing so I wish to get the first sata drive to use with
   Debian Etch as non software raid, and to use second
   sata drive as a backup, and data drive.
  
   1. Place your second harddisk to another bus (or plug it on over an
   usb-sata adapter) OR Remove in ~ /etc/mdadm the second disk.
 
  can't you just remove the second disk from mdadm and be done? I guess
  you should turn off the raid portions of the boot by
 
  update-rc.d -f mdadm-raid remove
 
  I've not tested this, so buyer beware.
 
 Before that it is good maybe to edit fstab like bellow.
 What do you think?
 
 # software raid
 #
 #/dev/md0/boot   ext3defaults0   2
 #/dev/md1noneswapsw  0   0
 #/dev/md2/   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
 #/dev/md3/home   ext3defaults0   2
 #/dev/md4/adatok ext3defaults0   2
 
 # GNU/Linux
 #
 /dev/sda3   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
 /dev/sda5   noneswapsw  0   0
 /dev/sda6   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
 /dev/sda7   /home   ext3defaults0   2
 /dev/sda8   /adatok ext3defaults0   2
 
 these abowe corresponds togeather (each - others).

definitely a good idea. you might have to rebuild the initrd as well. 

A


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Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Csanyi
2008/1/15, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Well, since its raid1, everything on disk 2 is on disk one.

 Turn off the box, unplug disk 2, turn on the box.  The box will run
 just fine with a degraded (one disk) raid1 array.  Remove the failed
 disk from the array so that it isn't looking for it.

How can I remove the failed disk from the array?
Where can I do that?

Maybe with mdam? I am reading now man mdadm.

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Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:55:40PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
 2008/1/15, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Well, since its raid1, everything on disk 2 is on disk one.
 
  Turn off the box, unplug disk 2, turn on the box.  The box will run
  just fine with a degraded (one disk) raid1 array.  Remove the failed
  disk from the array so that it isn't looking for it.
 
 How can I remove the failed disk from the array?
 Where can I do that?
 
 Maybe with mdam? I am reading now man mdadm.
 

Yes, that is what I meant.  You can also read the raid HOWTO (tldp)
(doc-linux-HTML package).

And yes, I would suggest changing grub and fstab.  Then you can probably
get rid of mdadm.

Doug.


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