Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 04:50:37PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
 Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 21:39, Alan Shutko wrote:
 
  LZW is patent-encumbered.  GIFs do not need to be compressed.
 
  And loose all appeal instantly
 
 Maybe for you.  As I posted the last time this came up, there are
 still uses.

I'm curious now; what use is an uncompressed gif file?

-rob


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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-11 Thread Alan Shutko
Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm curious now; what use is an uncompressed gif file?

Animated pics with older browsers, for one.

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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-11 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 01:36:12AM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 04:50:37PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
  Maybe for you.  As I posted the last time this came up, there are
  still uses.
 
 I'm curious now; what use is an uncompressed gif file?

So you can view it anyhow... but it is not compressed :)

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GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Jim Lynch
Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

Thanks,
Jim.


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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 19:34, Jim Lynch wrote:
 Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

apt-get install gimp1.2-nonfree

gifs are patent encumbered
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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:34:23PM -0400, Jim Lynch wrote:
 Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

Have you installed the gimp1.2-nonfree package?

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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:34:23PM -0400, Jim Lynch wrote:

 Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

GIF is a patented format.  It can be (and is) argued that supporting
it without paying patent license fees is illegal.  Therefore no
free (libre) software collection can support it. You can download a
GIF support module for GIMP at your own risk from nonfree (the last
time I looked, anyway, which was a fair time ago).
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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Andrey Vlassov



No it is linux community doesn't support gif format because of it patent
for compression. But you can recompile GIMP with support for gif without
any problem.
Andrey
Jim Lynch wrote:
Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files
any longer?
Thanks,
Jim.
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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Chad Walstrom
Jim Lynch wrote:
 Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

apt-get install gimp1.2-nonfree


Package: gimp1.2-nonfree
Priority: optional
Section: non-free/graphics
Installed-Size: 57
Maintainer: Ben Gertzfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Source: gimp1.2
Version: 1.2.3-2
Replaces: gimp1.1-nonfree
Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libgimp1.2 (= 1.2.0), libglib1.2 (= 
1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (= 1.2.10-4), xlibs ( 4.1.0)
Conflicts: gimp1.1-nonfree
Filename: pool/non-free/g/gimp1.2/gimp1.2-nonfree_1.2.3-2_i386.deb
Size: 23452
MD5sum: e397ad2ee228e1029d0ff183b2ffa456
Description: GIF support for the GNU Image Manipulation Program
 This package includes GIF support for The GNU Image Manipulation
 Program. These files are not freely available; their use is
 disallowed by the UNISYS patent on LZW compression.
 .
 Use at your own legal risk.
Enhances: gimp1.2

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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Alan Shutko
Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 gifs are patent encumbered

LZW is patent-encumbered.  GIFs do not need to be compressed.

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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Alan Shutko
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 GIF is a patented format.  

No, it isn't.

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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 21:39, Alan Shutko wrote:

 LZW is patent-encumbered.  GIFs do not need to be compressed.

And loose all appeal instantly
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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Alan Shutko
Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 21:39, Alan Shutko wrote:

 LZW is patent-encumbered.  GIFs do not need to be compressed.

 And loose all appeal instantly

Maybe for you.  As I posted the last time this came up, there are
still uses.

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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 03:39:53PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
 Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  GIF is a patented format.  
 
 No, it isn't.

Okay, technically it's LZW that's patented, but even I, the owner of
nitpicking.com, didn't want to bother explaining in that level of detail.
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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread John Hasler
Carl Fink writes:
 Okay, technically it's LZW that's patented, but even I, the owner of
 nitpicking.com, didn't want to bother explaining in that level of detail.

It isn't an irrelevant detail.  GIF's don't have to be compressed.
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Re: GIMP and gif files

2002-05-10 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jim Lynch wrote:

 Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

http://packages.debian.org/stable/graphics/gimp1.1-nonfree.html

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