Re: Fwd: Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:50:41 -0400, Doug wrote: > This is a PS to my previous post, which is included below. On Windows 7, > there is a list of 230 fonts, found in ??? \Control Panel\Appearance and > Personalization\Fonts but I don't know the entire directory tree--i.e., > I don't know how to get to \Control Panel in the console so as to copy > everything with a "copy *.ttf" command. Mmm, I do not have a Windows 7 near me, but it should be available under "C:/Windows/Fonts" (hidden system folder, maybe?) or just try to search for "*.ttf/*.otf" files. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.09.29.10.10...@gmail.com
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:45:12 -0400, Doug wrote: > On 9/28/2010 6:18 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> No installation privileges needed. Just drop (copy/paste) all your MS >> *.ttf font into your user's "~/.fonts" folder and you're done :-) >> >> >> > Because I have several Linux distros as well as WinXP on one computer, I > can search (from Linux) and find a C:\Windows\Fonts directory, with > *.ttf files, so I suppose I could copy all of these into some Linux > directory. Yes. > Looking in Debian squeeze, there are /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ and then > some subdirectories like /freefont, /dejavu /liberation, and a couple of > others, with differing numbers of fonts in each. Dejavu has 21 > variations, the most. > > Looking in Ubuntu 10.04.1 I find a /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont > directory, which seems to have 12 fonts listed, and where I suppose I > could dump the Win *.ttf. Would this be the right place? > > Looking in PCLINUXOS 2010, I find about 55 .ttf fonts in /usr/share/ > fonts/webcore/ including Times, "couri" and arial. > > I need more instruction. I've been playing around with Linux for some > time, but only recently decided to get serious about it. So, in that > respect, I'm really a newbie. So help, please. In what point do you need more instruction? :-? I tell you what I do for getting TrueType fonts (I can only speak for Debian, not sure how the other distributions are managing that). To avoid messing TrueType fonts with the current installed ones, I copy/ paste *.ttf files into "/usr/local/share/fonts". That way, TrueType fonts are widely available for all users and programs. > For instance, how does a program like OOo or Thunderbird, or the pdf > reader, etc., know which subdirectory to pick its fonts from? (That > would kind of indicate where additional fonts should be imported to.) In Debian, any program may look into the defined directories (specified in "/etc/fonts/fonts.conf" file: /usr/share/fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts /usr/local/share/fonts ~/.fonts Additional info: http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.09.29.10.03...@gmail.com
Fwd: Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
This is a PS to my previous post, which is included below. On Windows 7, there is a list of 230 fonts, found in ??? \Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Fonts but I don't know the entire directory tree--i.e., I don't know how to get to \Control Panel in the console so as to copy everything with a "copy *.ttf" command. Original Message ---- Subject: Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts? Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:45:12 -0400 From: Doug To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On 9/28/2010 6:18 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:27:44 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing some fonts, or is there something else amiss? Most surely, yes. I've got all MS TrueType fonts installed O:-) Evince lists as used in that PDF: Arial, Garamond, Times News Roman and Symbol. Let me go back home and check it (on this machine, I don't have install privileges). No installation privileges needed. Just drop (copy/paste) all your MS *.ttf font into your user's "~/.fonts" folder and you're done :-) Greetings, Because I have several Linux distros as well as WinXP on one computer, I can search (from Linux) and find a C:\Windows\Fonts directory, with *.ttf files, so I suppose I could copy all of these into some Linux directory. Looking in Debian squeeze, there are /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ and then some subdirectories like /freefont, /dejavu /liberation, and a couple of others, with differing numbers of fonts in each. Dejavu has 21 variations, the most. Looking in Ubuntu 10.04.1 I find a /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont directory, which seems to have 12 fonts listed, and where I suppose I could dump the Win *.ttf. Would this be the right place? Looking in PCLINUXOS 2010, I find about 55 .ttf fonts in /usr/share/ fonts/webcore/ including Times, "couri" and arial. I need more instruction. I've been playing around with Linux for some time, but only recently decided to get serious about it. So, in that respect, I'm really a newbie. So help, please. For instance, how does a program like OOo or Thunderbird, or the pdf reader, etc., know which subdirectory to pick its fonts from? (That would kind of indicate where additional fonts should be imported to.) --doug Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ca2a981.7050...@optonline.net
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On 9/28/2010 6:18 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:27:44 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing some fonts, or is there something else amiss? Most surely, yes. I've got all MS TrueType fonts installed O:-) Evince lists as used in that PDF: Arial, Garamond, Times News Roman and Symbol. Let me go back home and check it (on this machine, I don't have install privileges). No installation privileges needed. Just drop (copy/paste) all your MS *.ttf font into your user's "~/.fonts" folder and you're done :-) Greetings, Because I have several Linux distros as well as WinXP on one computer, I can search (from Linux) and find a C:\Windows\Fonts directory, with *.ttf files, so I suppose I could copy all of these into some Linux directory. Looking in Debian squeeze, there are /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ and then some subdirectories like /freefont, /dejavu /liberation, and a couple of others, with differing numbers of fonts in each. Dejavu has 21 variations, the most. Looking in Ubuntu 10.04.1 I find a /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont directory, which seems to have 12 fonts listed, and where I suppose I could dump the Win *.ttf. Would this be the right place? Looking in PCLINUXOS 2010, I find about 55 .ttf fonts in /usr/share/ fonts/webcore/ including Times, "couri" and arial. I need more instruction. I've been playing around with Linux for some time, but only recently decided to get serious about it. So, in that respect, I'm really a newbie. So help, please. For instance, how does a program like OOo or Thunderbird, or the pdf reader, etc., know which subdirectory to pick its fonts from? (That would kind of indicate where additional fonts should be imported to.) --doug Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ca2a838.8020...@optonline.net
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:18:46AM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:27:44 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > > >> > All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I > >> > missing some fonts, or is there something else amiss? > >> > >> Most surely, yes. I've got all MS TrueType fonts installed O:-) > >> > >> Evince lists as used in that PDF: Arial, Garamond, Times News Roman and > >> Symbol. > > > > Let me go back home and check it (on this machine, I don't have install > > privileges). > > No installation privileges needed. Just drop (copy/paste) all your MS > *.ttf font into your user's "~/.fonts" folder and you're done :-) Worked fine. Thanks! :-) Kumar -- "Linux was made by foreign terrorists to take money from true US companies like Microsoft." - Some AOL'er. "To this end we dedicate ourselves..." -Don -- From the sig of "Don", d...@cs.byu.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100928122012.gb11...@bluemoon.alumni.iitm.ac.in
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:27:44 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: >> > All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I >> > missing some fonts, or is there something else amiss? >> >> Most surely, yes. I've got all MS TrueType fonts installed O:-) >> >> Evince lists as used in that PDF: Arial, Garamond, Times News Roman and >> Symbol. > > Let me go back home and check it (on this machine, I don't have install > privileges). No installation privileges needed. Just drop (copy/paste) all your MS *.ttf font into your user's "~/.fonts" folder and you're done :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.09.28.10.18...@gmail.com
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
Dear Doug, On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 08:53:25PM -0400, Doug wrote: > On 9/27/2010 4:51 PM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > >I have a problem opening the following PDF: > > > >http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker-Interview-Weblayout.pdf > > > >All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing > >some fonts, or is there something else amiss? > > >I use squeeze/sid, and can give you package versions if you could tell > >me which ones would be useful. > > Just as a sanity test, I opened the file in Windows, and it works > perfectly. However, unless you read German, don't bother! (It's > not difficult German, but there it is!) Ich weiß dass dieses Dokument in Deutsch ist. Ich möchte es lesen für die Übersetzung der Artikel auf Englisch für meine Arbeit. :-) (That was a German n00b's attempt to tell Doug that I am aware that the document is in German, and I want to read it in order to translate it into English as part of my work. ;-)) Kumar -- If loving linux is wrong, I dont wanna be right. -- Topic for #LinuxGER -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100928040135.ga2...@bluemoon.alumni.iitm.ac.in
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On 9/27/2010 4:51 PM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: Dear Debian users, I have a problem opening the following PDF: http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker-Interview-Weblayout.pdf All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing some fonts, or is there something else amiss? I use squeeze/sid, and can give you package versions if you could tell me which ones would be useful. Thanks! Kumar Just as a sanity test, I opened the file in Windows, and it works perfectly. However, unless you read German, don't bother! (It's not difficult German, but there it is!) --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ca13c85.8060...@optonline.net
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
Dear Sjoerd, On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 01:20:12AM +0200, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: > On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:51 -0500 Kumar Appaiah wrote: > > I have a problem opening the following PDF: > > > > http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker-Interview-Weblayout.pdf > > > > All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing > > some fonts, or is there something else amiss? > > If you open this pdf with evince, and have a look at > File > Properties > tab 'Fonts', then you will see that all fonts > except SymbolMT are 'not embedded', which means that they are missing > from the pdf. A good pdf should contain the used fonts, so it is > clearly at fault here. Indeed. I can confirm that this is the case. > If you open the pdf with Adobe Reader, and have a look at > File > Properties > tab 'Fonts', then you see that Adobe Reader > replaces the missing fonts with other fonts that it apparently carries > with it. Notably, the main text font, which is Garamond, is replaced > with 'Adobe Serif MM', and although it looks fine, it differs from the > original font. > > Installing msttcorefonts does not help here, because it does not > contain the Garamond font. AFAICT Garamond is part of W2000 and XP. Yes, since I have the msttcorefonts installed. > One option would be to get the Garamond font (three .ttf files) from > some Windows installation and install it, e.g. just by putting it into > ~/.fonts . I see that evince shows the text just fine then. Thanks. This does seem to work; but there is the slight problem that the characters umlauts didn't render properly; that is probably because the version of the font I used didn't have that encoding. But this is something I can get over myself. Thanks again! Kumar -- But what can you do with it? -- ubiquitous cry from Linux-user partner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100928001336.ga30...@bluemoon.alumni.iitm.ac.in
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:51 -0500 Kumar Appaiah wrote: > I have a problem opening the following PDF: > > http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker-Interview-Weblayout.pdf > > All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing > some fonts, or is there something else amiss? If you open this pdf with evince, and have a look at File > Properties > tab 'Fonts', then you will see that all fonts except SymbolMT are 'not embedded', which means that they are missing from the pdf. A good pdf should contain the used fonts, so it is clearly at fault here. If you open the pdf with Adobe Reader, and have a look at File > Properties > tab 'Fonts', then you see that Adobe Reader replaces the missing fonts with other fonts that it apparently carries with it. Notably, the main text font, which is Garamond, is replaced with 'Adobe Serif MM', and although it looks fine, it differs from the original font. Installing msttcorefonts does not help here, because it does not contain the Garamond font. AFAICT Garamond is part of W2000 and XP. One option would be to get the Garamond font (three .ttf files) from some Windows installation and install it, e.g. just by putting it into ~/.fonts . I see that evince shows the text just fine then. Another option would be to install texlive-fonts-extra, which also contains the Garamond font. However, if you don't have texlive installed, it takes hundreds of MBs of dependencies with it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100928012012.5f5f12f5.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 01:11:32 +0400, Mark Goldshtein wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: >> Dear Debian users, >> >> I have a problem opening the following PDF: >> >> http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker- Interview-Weblayout.pdf >> >> All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing >> some fonts, or is there something else amiss? >> >> I use squeeze/sid, and can give you package versions if you could tell >> me which ones would be useful. >> >> > Okay, have you tried to open this file with a standard app to view PDF > docs? I mean, have you tried Acrobat Reader? Evince/Okular/xpdf should work just fine. Geetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.09.27.21.36...@gmail.com
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 01:11:32AM +0400, Mark Goldshtein wrote: >> > I have a problem opening the following PDF: >> > >> > http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker-Interview-Weblayout.pdf >> > >> > All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing >> > some fonts, or is there something else amiss? >> > >> > I use squeeze/sid, and can give you package versions if you could tell >> > me which ones would be useful. >> > >> >> Okay, have you tried to open this file with a standard app to view PDF >> docs? I mean, have you tried Acrobat Reader? > > On another machine (CentOS) on which Acrobat is installed, I can > confirm that Acrobat loads the document properly. But the free PDF > viewers on that machine perform as badly as the ones in Debian. > Looking at the size and content of your problem PDF, I guess, it is does not includes fonts. So, Camaleón is right, probably you need to install MS TTF core fonts for proper rendering of that PDF. -- Sincerely Yours' Mark Goldshtein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=ajthbolnge+4m+mz3unkrp39c5j1cjxxjn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
Dear Camaleón, On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 09:10:12PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:51:14 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > > > I have a problem opening the following PDF: > > > > http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker- > Interview-Weblayout.pdf > > It opens fine here with Evince (lenny). > > > All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing > > some fonts, or is there something else amiss? > > Most surely, yes. I've got all MS TrueType fonts installed O:-) > > Evince lists as used in that PDF: Arial, Garamond, Times News Roman and > Symbol. Let me go back home and check it (on this machine, I don't have install privileges). Thanks! Kumar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100927212744.ge20...@bowser.ece.utexas.edu
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:51:14 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > >> I have a problem opening the following PDF: >> >> http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker- > Interview-Weblayout.pdf > > It opens fine here with Evince (lenny). > >> All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing >> some fonts, or is there something else amiss? > > Most surely, yes. I've got all MS TrueType fonts installed O:-) > > Evince lists as used in that PDF: Arial, Garamond, Times News Roman and > Symbol. > Have none of MS fonts installed. PDF looking fair. No garbage at all. -- Sincerely Yours' Mark Goldshtein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinnv680okaxmx+_rklpk+b+=pdysq9c6=qy2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > Dear Debian users, > > I have a problem opening the following PDF: > > http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker-Interview-Weblayout.pdf > > All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing > some fonts, or is there something else amiss? > > I use squeeze/sid, and can give you package versions if you could tell > me which ones would be useful. > Okay, have you tried to open this file with a standard app to view PDF docs? I mean, have you tried Acrobat Reader? -- Sincerely Yours' Mark Goldshtein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktintvqcnuo6ycfulv-1iut2hdoy4w30t5yps-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:51:14 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > I have a problem opening the following PDF: > > http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker- Interview-Weblayout.pdf It opens fine here with Evince (lenny). > All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing > some fonts, or is there something else amiss? Most surely, yes. I've got all MS TrueType fonts installed O:-) Evince lists as used in that PDF: Arial, Garamond, Times News Roman and Symbol. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.09.27.21.10...@gmail.com
Garbled PDF: missing fonts?
Dear Debian users, I have a problem opening the following PDF: http://www.wiley-vch.de/berlin/journals/phiuz/07-04/Weizsaecker-Interview-Weblayout.pdf All PDF viewers on Debian seem to produce garbled output. Am I missing some fonts, or is there something else amiss? I use squeeze/sid, and can give you package versions if you could tell me which ones would be useful. Thanks! Kumar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100927205114.gb20...@bowser.ece.utexas.edu
