Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On 15 Jul 2023 2:30:08 CEST, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > So I have been looking at new computers and most of them come with SSD's > but they are so much smaller than my 2 TB computer that I am not sure > what is better. I read a couple of pieces on different groups but still > am not sure. SSD's are faster but them have a quarter of the room for > storage. I don't use my machine for basic stuff and am not a heavy > gamer. Any advice about this would be greatly appreciated. > > Moe What form factor? Probably all 2.5" HDDs larger than 500GB use SMR these days (at least WD for sure). After using them for a while now (bought first one before the SMR fuss, not knowing that), there is couple of downsides: 1) The disks are still doing something. Even when not mounted, the head is moving. In some notebooks it can be pretty loud. 2) Random access can be painfully slow. I have system installed on SSD and still can feel it sometimes. -- Kryštof
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On 15/7/23 17:01, Keith Bainbridge wrote: I was interested because my connection has timed out a couple of times and the only solution I found was rebooting. Hasn't dis-connected for a few days, so maybe this issue is resolved. I have nothing concrete to add but I see the connections are managed by the process goa-daemon I also see that goa-daemon is not managed by systemd My best advice is to research goa-daemon and see how to manage that.
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 16:40:13 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: > On 15/7/23 16:23, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > Is this done via gnome-settings? Or is there now a better option. > > An URL would be good > > > I set it up on my Debian 12 system first by using gnome desktop. My > mate > desktop then inherited the map > > I later found that you can run the cloud mapping application from > command line regardless of the desktop. I use mate and used the mate > terminal to do this: > > jeremy@client:~/Desktop$ gnome-control-center > > And follow the GUI prompts. > > I don't have a url describing this better, but it's not difficult > with the gnome application > > > > > Thanks Jeremy, Just what I have done, but I thought I had done this prior to upgrading to Deb12. I was interested because my connection has timed out a couple of times and the only solution I found was rebooting. Hasn't dis-connected for a few days, so maybe this issue is resolved. All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 UTC +1000
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On 15/7/23 16:23, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Is this done via gnome-settings? Or is there now a better option. An URL would be good I set it up on my Debian 12 system first by using gnome desktop. My mate desktop then inherited the map I later found that you can run the cloud mapping application from command line regardless of the desktop. I use mate and used the mate terminal to do this: jeremy@client:~/Desktop$ gnome-control-center And follow the GUI prompts. I don't have a url describing this better, but it's not difficult with the gnome application
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 11:37:17 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: > With Debian 12 you also have the option of using your Google Drive as > a virtual folder on your system, where everything is actually kept at > the Google end. Jeremy Is this done via gnome-settings? Or is there now a better option. An URL would be good Thanks All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 UTC +1000
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 20:08:56 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > If you computer has an available 2.5" drive bay and SATA port, I > suggest that you install a small, fast 2.5" SATA SSD for your > operating system, programs, and "hot" data (home directory, e-mail, > and working directories), and use the 2 TB HDD for the rest of your > data. I think you will be very pleased with the performance > improvement provided by a SATA SSD, and will not need a new computer. Moe I use a small data partition on a SSD for /home/me and symlink dir's from the larger drive into that /home/me. Debian helps by offering to set up a /home partition at installation. It means that my recent files open quicker. eg : >> ls -lah /home/keith/Documents/ total 21M drwxrw--w- 16 keith keith 4.0K Jul 7 14:59 . drwxrw--w- 49 keith keith 4.0K Jun 7 12:20 .. drwxrw--w- 13 keith keith 4.0K Feb 28 21:21 0lder drwxrw--w- 5 keith keith 4.0K Feb 4 2022 2020 drwxrw--w- 3 keith keith 4.0K May 27 06:07 2021 drwxrw--w- 24 keith keith 4.0K May 27 06:09 2022 drwxrw--w- 16 keith keith 4.0K Jul 11 09:10 2023 I'll fix that zero in older one day. All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 38s X 144e
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On 15/7/23 09:05, zithro wrote: Generally, you put your OS and programs on an SSD, so your experience is snappy: they are fast and have a low latency. Then you put your data on HDDs (rotating rust), because you don't need speed but gigas/teras. As you seem to want to buy a new computer and/or new parts, you'd install the OS on the new SDD, while keeping your old 2TB as storage. For drive costs, as of yesterday, I was able to buy a 500GB Samsung NVME drive for $49AUD - say $35USD. It's not that expensive at all. Zithro describes a very sensible approach: I will add though that cloud storage is becoming more affordable and you have an option where you keep all the highly used stuff on your personal drive and have a virtual remote drive for the less frequently accessed stuff. There are various providers that provide differing levels of 'seamless', such as virtual drives where the remote content looks like a folder on your PC but in reality every time you access a file it is fetched from the internet, or written back to the internet. In Debian, dropbox is well integrated, but you have to configure it to not keep a full copy on your local drive. With Debian 12 you also have the option of using your Google Drive as a virtual folder on your system, where everything is actually kept at the Google end. Big offisite storage is a bit expensive, but if you are archiving, Amazon S3 is around $8 per month for 2TB archive grade storage. Other vendors will probably be cheaper
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On 7/14/23 17:30, Maureen L Thomas wrote: So I have been looking at new computers and most of them come with SSD's but they are so much smaller than my 2 TB computer that I am not sure what is better. I read a couple of pieces on different groups but still am not sure. SSD's are faster but them have a quarter of the room for storage. I don't use my machine for basic stuff and am not a heavy gamer. Any advice about this would be greatly appreciated. Moe Looking in the archives, it appears that you have a Lenovo all-in-one computer with an Intel Core i3-9100T processor, 8 GB RAM, and 2 TB HDD (?). That is newer than most of my computers, and more than adequate for use as a Debian desktop computer. If you computer has an available 2.5" drive bay and SATA port, I suggest that you install a small, fast 2.5" SATA SSD for your operating system, programs, and "hot" data (home directory, e-mail, and working directories), and use the 2 TB HDD for the rest of your data. I think you will be very pleased with the performance improvement provided by a SATA SSD, and will not need a new computer. (A PCIe SSD is faster yet, if your computer has an available M.2 NVMe PCIe slot.) Of course, all-SSD storage will provide peak performance; if you can afford it. David
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On July 14, 2023 5:30:34 PM Maureen L Thomas wrote: So I have been looking at new computers and most of them come with SSD's but they are so much smaller than my 2 TB computer that I am not sure what is better. I read a couple of pieces on different groups but still am not sure. SSD's are faster but them have a quarter of the room for storage. I don't use my machine for basic stuff and am not a heavy gamer. Any advice about this would be greatly appreciated. Moe Is your new computer going to be a laptop? SSD is cooler, uses less power, and is nearly shock proof. Much better in those respects. Desktop use I would use HDD.
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On 15 Jul 2023 02:30, Maureen L Thomas wrote: So I have been looking at new computers and most of them come with SSD's but they are so much smaller than my 2 TB computer that I am not sure what is better. I read a couple of pieces on different groups but still am not sure. SSD's are faster but them have a quarter of the room for storage. I don't use my machine for basic stuff and am not a heavy gamer. Any advice about this would be greatly appreciated. Moe It's a balance between the amount of data and what you do with it. Also, it depends on your patience ^^ Some people really hate waiting for stuff to happen on a computer, some don't care. Generally, you put your OS and programs on an SSD, so your experience is snappy: they are fast and have a low latency. Then you put your data on HDDs (rotating rust), because you don't need speed but gigas/teras. As you seem to want to buy a new computer and/or new parts, you'd install the OS on the new SDD, while keeping your old 2TB as storage.
General question regarding SSD and harddrive
So I have been looking at new computers and most of them come with SSD's but they are so much smaller than my 2 TB computer that I am not sure what is better. I read a couple of pieces on different groups but still am not sure. SSD's are faster but them have a quarter of the room for storage. I don't use my machine for basic stuff and am not a heavy gamer. Any advice about this would be greatly appreciated. Moe
