Re: Getting mozilla going...
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like outdated advice to me ... in the early days of Mozilla I think you had to set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME, but you don't need to now. OK, but is the need to patch up Mozilla with jre.xpi also obsolete? Other articles (re: both potato woody) seem to say Mozilla still can't handle java applets as it exists right after installation... that some intervention is necessary. Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like outdated advice to me ... in the early days of Mozilla I think you had to set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME, but you don't need to now. OK, but is the need to patch up Mozilla with jre.xpi also obsolete? Other articles (re: both potato woody) seem to say Mozilla still can't handle java applets as it exists right after installation... that some intervention is necessary. Mozilla uses OJI to interface with a JRE that you must install on your system (there's no bundled JRE like with Netscape 4.x). You can install the Java jre through a package (which isn't in Debian, AFAIK, because of licensing problems) or you can install the jre from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/*/linux-xpi/jre.xpi (I think that's the correct URL). Just clicking on the file should install it, assuming there aren't any bugs with XPInstall that break the installation. If you choose the first option (which is what I do), you should be able to do so by adding one of the following to your sources.list: #deb ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/java/debian woody non-free #deb ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/java/debian woody non-free #deb ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/java-linux/debian woody non-free #deb #ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian woody non-free I currently use the first one. Then, you should make a symlink (don't copy!) from the appropriate *.so file to your plugins directory (which, in current versions can be either in mozilla or .mozilla). HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
Actually, the more I look at the advice to patch up mozilla so that it can handle java applets, the less I understand the advice: unzip jre.xpi -d $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME/plugins 'jre-image-i386/*' ln -s jre-image-i386/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so . I don't have unzip on my potato system...just gunzip, and if I do a gunzip -c jre.xpi out_file_name, it says that jre.xpi has more than one entry--rest ignored, and there is nothing in the output file out_file_name. Also, I don't understand his link: ln -s f1 f2 establishes a soft link from the new name f2 to the existing ordinary file f1, which doesn't make any sense to me with the syntax he gave. Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
On Thu, 02 May 2002 13:45:18 -0600 Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the more I look at the advice to patch up mozilla so that it can handle java applets, the less I understand the advice: unzip jre.xpi -d $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME/plugins 'jre-image-i386/*' ln -s jre-image-i386/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so . I don't have unzip on my potato system...just gunzip, and if I do a gunzip -c jre.xpi out_file_name, it says that You need the unzip utility for this, not gunzip. apt-get install unzip Also, I don't understand his link: ln -s f1 f2 establishes a soft link from the new name f2 to the existing ordinary file f1, which doesn't make any sense to me with the syntax he gave. With the sytanx he provided, the . at the end references the current directory. When a directory is used as the second filename to ln in this way, the original file name is used as the name for the new link to be created and it is created in the specified directory. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, the more I look at the advice to patch up mozilla so that it can handle java applets, the less I understand the advice: unzip jre.xpi -d $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME/plugins 'jre-image-i386/*' ln -s jre-image-i386/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so . That's basically what I said, assuming that xpi files are just zip files with a different extension (which wouldn't surprise me). Mozilla has a built in installer for xpi files, though, so all that shouldn't be necessary. I don't have unzip on my potato system...just gunzip, and apt-get install unzip (apt-get install zip, if you also want to create archives). if I do a gunzip -c jre.xpi out_file_name, it says that jre.xpi has more than one entry--rest ignored, and there is nothing in the output file out_file_name. gzip doesn't support winzip's format... for licensing reasons, I assume. Also, I don't understand his link: ln -s f1 f2 establishes a soft link from the new name f2 to the existing ordinary file f1, which doesn't make any sense to me with the syntax he gave. I belive it's actually the other way 'round. From 'man ln': SYNOPSIS ln [OPTION]... TARGET [LINK_NAME] ln [OPTION]... TARGET... DIRECTORY ln [OPTION]... --target-directory=DIRECTORY TARGET... where TARGET is the existing file and [LINK NAME] is the optional name of the new file to create (if not specified, it'll be the same as the TARGET). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
Lo, on Thursday, May 2, Mike Fontenot did write: Actually, the more I look at the advice to patch up mozilla so that it can handle java applets, the less I understand the advice: unzip jre.xpi -d $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME/plugins 'jre-image-i386/*' ln -s jre-image-i386/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so . I don't have unzip on my potato system...just gunzip, and if I do a gunzip -c jre.xpi out_file_name, it says that Different program; it's in either the `unzip' or the `unzip-crypt' package; take your pick. (See apt-cache search for more info.) Also, I don't understand his link: ln -s f1 f2 establishes a soft link from the new name f2 to the existing ordinary file f1, which doesn't make any sense to me with the syntax he gave. `ln -s foo/bar/baz quux', where quux is a directory (like `.'), is equivalent to saying `ln -s foo/bar/baz quux/baz'. Same as with most of the fileutils, actually. This is documented on the ln man page, although it's pretty terse. HTH, Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
No, I don't have any issues with it. But it CAN cause problems in some cases. Sorry, I do not remember the exact details, and was most likely due to version differences. So if one is having problems, it is worth checking out. Paul P.S. I no longer use Netscape, all that extra garbage they like to hang in there, just gets in the way. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (craigw) writes: On Tue Apr 30, 2002 at 06:16:44PM -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote: Old netscape directories including ~your_home/.netscape/ can cause havoc with mozilla. Also make sure you start What! That seems like an odd thing to say. Am I the only one whose got both Mozilla Netscape on the same machine? Cuz it seems to work over here. Or maybe you have some particular issues in mind that you simply didn't mention. Because, in fact, messed up ~/.netscape directories can screw up Netscape as well as Mozilla. -- -CraigW -- * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
Jamin W. Collins wrote: The above items are simply environment variables. They are created when Mozilla is started. They are not permanent. The fact that they aren't there after a reboot is quite normal, they shouldn't be. What problem are you experiencing or more specifically, what are you attempting to accomplish? I was trying to follow some advice I got from this newsgroup, to patch up mozilla so that it would be able to handle java applets. The advice was to download jre.xpi, and then to execute the commands: unzip jre.xpi -d $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME/plugins 'jre-image-i386/*' ln -s jre-image-i386/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so . Obviously, whoever wrote that advice expected MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to be known to my shell, but it's not...not even after I have started up mozilla. Obviously I can set that variable myself, but the author of that advice seemed to think it would already be set...That makes me wonder what else has gone wrong with the installation. Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 04:20:16PM -0600, Mike Fontenot wrote: I was trying to follow some advice I got from this newsgroup, to patch up mozilla so that it would be able to handle java applets. The advice was to download jre.xpi, and then to execute the commands: unzip jre.xpi -d $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME/plugins 'jre-image-i386/*' ln -s jre-image-i386/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so . Obviously, whoever wrote that advice expected MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to be known to my shell, but it's not...not even after I have started up mozilla. Obviously I can set that variable myself, but the author of that advice seemed to think it would already be set...That makes me wonder what else has gone wrong with the installation. Sounds like outdated advice to me ... in the early days of Mozilla I think you had to set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME, but you don't need to now. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting mozilla going...
I just installed mozilla from potato. When I first executed it (from my non-root login), it appeared to be setting MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to /usr/lib/mozilla (as well as setting various other environmental variables). But, even after a reboot, that variable isn't set, either under my non-root login, or under the root login. Anyone know what's going on? Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S.: Here's what showed up on the screen when I executed mozilla the first time: _ /usr/lib/mozilla/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/components SHLIB_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla LIBPATH=/usr/lib/mozilla ADDON_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZ_TOOLKIT= moz_debug=0 moz_debugger= ProfileManager : CreateNewProfile Profile Name: default Profile Dir: /mlf/.mozilla Setting content window *** Pulling out the charset Loading page specified via openDialog in SetSecurityButton Document file:///usr/share/doc/mozilla/FAQ loaded successfully PP top 0.50 bottom 0.00 left 0.50 right 0.00 PreWidth = 8.50 PreHeight = 11.00 Width = 612 Height = 792 dpi 72.00 top 36 bottom 0 left 36 right 0 got a request -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:42:25 -0600 Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed mozilla from potato. When I first executed it (from my non-root login), it appeared to be setting MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to /usr/lib/mozilla (as well as setting various other environmental variables). But, even after a reboot, that variable isn't set, either under my non-root login, or under the root login. (snip) /usr/lib/mozilla/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/components SHLIB_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla LIBPATH=/usr/lib/mozilla ADDON_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZ_TOOLKIT= moz_debug=0 moz_debugger= The above items are simply environment variables. They are created when Mozilla is started. They are not permanent. The fact that they aren't there after a reboot is quite normal, they shouldn't be. What problem are you experiencing or more specifically, what are you attempting to accomplish? -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:42:25 -0600 Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed mozilla from potato. When I first executed it (from my non-root login), it appeared to be setting MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to /usr/lib/mozilla (as well as setting various other environmental variables). But, even after a reboot, that variable isn't set, either under my non-root login, or under the root login. (snip) /usr/lib/mozilla/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/components SHLIB_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla LIBPATH=/usr/lib/mozilla ADDON_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZ_TOOLKIT= moz_debug=0 moz_debugger= The above items are simply environment variables. They are created when Mozilla is started. They are not permanent. The fact that they aren't there after a reboot is quite normal, they shouldn't be. What problem are you experiencing or more specifically, what are you attempting to accomplish? They will also only be set in the instance of the shell you (or the script) set them in. So if you start mozilla from a terminal in X, the environment variables will only be available from within that terminal and any terminals you run from it (since their shells will inherit the variables). You also don't have to reboot Linux for your changes to take effect, in case that's what you're thinking ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
Reboot! This is Linux, never reboot, except to install new kernel. ;-) Mozilla runs from a shell script. The variouse variables are set by the script so mozilla can find all its parts. Only programs run by the script will see those variables. They go away when terminated. Old netscape directories including ~your_home/.netscape/ can cause havoc with mozilla. Also make sure you start mozilla from the intended shell script in it's original location (and do not use links), otherwise mozilla gets lost. Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Fontenot) writes: I just installed mozilla from potato. When I first executed it (from my non-root login), it appeared to be setting MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to /usr/lib/mozilla (as well as setting various other environmental variables). But, even after a reboot, that variable isn't set, either under my non-root login, or under the root login. Anyone know what's going on? Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S.: Here's what showed up on the screen when I executed mozilla the first time: _ /usr/lib/mozilla/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla:/usr/lib/mozilla/components SHLIB_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla LIBPATH=/usr/lib/mozilla ADDON_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZ_TOOLKIT= moz_debug=0 moz_debugger= ProfileManager : CreateNewProfile Profile Name: default Profile Dir: /mlf/.mozilla Setting content window *** Pulling out the charset Loading page specified via openDialog in SetSecurityButton Document file:///usr/share/doc/mozilla/FAQ loaded successfully PP top 0.50 bottom 0.00 left 0.50 right 0.00 PreWidth = 8.50 PreHeight = 11.00 Width = 612 Height = 792 dpi 72.00 top 36 bottom 0 left 36 right 0 got a request -- * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting mozilla going...
On Tue Apr 30, 2002 at 06:16:44PM -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote: Old netscape directories including ~your_home/.netscape/ can cause havoc with mozilla. Also make sure you start What! That seems like an odd thing to say. Am I the only one whose got both Mozilla Netscape on the same machine? Cuz it seems to work over here. Or maybe you have some particular issues in mind that you simply didn't mention. Because, in fact, messed up ~/.netscape directories can screw up Netscape as well as Mozilla. -- -CraigW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
