Re: Google Inc. Could Be Compliant to the Chinese Government in Beijing, People's Republic of China (PRC)

2010-09-20 Thread T o n g
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:33:43 +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) 张恩鸣 of
Singapore wrote:

> I don't think it is that easy to hack if you are using SSL connections
> and very strong passwords. . . 

Please keep your discussion focused on the technical issues.
Please do not disguise a political discussion using technical discussion  
sugar coating.

THIS IS A TECHNICAL MLIST. Anything beyond technical discussion should be 
considered abusing. 

Please refrain yourself from drugging people into political wars. I'm 
sick and tire of it.

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Re: Google Inc. Could Be Compliant to the Chinese Government in Beijing, People's Republic of China (PRC)

2010-09-20 Thread Morgan Gangwere
On 9/20/2010 7:32 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:58:13AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
>   .snip
> 
>>>
>> According to some Google employees I've heard from - during late
>> December and early January Google undertook a massive review of staff
>> recruitment processes in China, and system security, with just that
>> scenario in mind.
>> China's desire to access Google's data is probably no stronger than say,
>> Mossad's, NSA's, etc. etc.
>> I've no idea how much money China has.
> 
> Be assured, they have enough.
> 

Not enough to make google violate their own agreements.

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>> Why?
> Because it breaks the logical flow of conversation, plus makes
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>>> Top-Posting is evil.



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Re: Google Inc. Could Be Compliant to the Chinese Government in Beijing, People's Republic of China (PRC)

2010-09-20 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:58:13AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:

  .snip

> >
> According to some Google employees I've heard from - during late
> December and early January Google undertook a massive review of staff
> recruitment processes in China, and system security, with just that
> scenario in mind.
> China's desire to access Google's data is probably no stronger than say,
> Mossad's, NSA's, etc. etc.
> I've no idea how much money China has.

Be assured, they have enough.

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Re: Google Inc. Could Be Compliant to the Chinese Government in Beijing, People's Republic of China (PRC)

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Ferguson
 On 21/09/10 10:33, "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) 张恩鸣 of Singapore"
wrote:
> Article: Google Warns of China Exit Over Hacking
> Link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126333757451026659.html
>
> I don't think it is that easy to hack if you are using SSL connections
> and very strong passwords. How long would it take supercomputers to
> perform a brute force attack if you are using a strong password with
> at least 20 characters, and a combination of upper case and lower case
> letters, numbers, and symbols?
>
> I am wondering if Chinese government officials could have secretly
> approached specific Google China employees for direct access to the
> Google GMail email accounts of human rights activists in China? It
> would have been far simpler to do it that way. What is the size of
> China's sovereign wealth fund?
>
According to some Google employees I've heard from - during late
December and early January Google undertook a massive review of staff
recruitment processes in China, and system security, with just that
scenario in mind.
China's desire to access Google's data is probably no stronger than say,
Mossad's, NSA's, etc. etc.
I've no idea how much money China has.

Cheers

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Google Inc. Could Be Compliant to the Chinese Government in Beijing, People's Republic of China (PRC)

2010-09-20 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) 张恩鸣 o f Singapore

Article: Google Warns of China Exit Over Hacking
Link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126333757451026659.html

I don't think it is that easy to hack if you are using SSL connections 
and very strong passwords. How long would it take supercomputers to 
perform a brute force attack if you are using a strong password with at 
least 20 characters, and a combination of upper case and lower case 
letters, numbers, and symbols?


I am wondering if Chinese government officials could have secretly 
approached specific Google China employees for direct access to the 
Google GMail email accounts of human rights activists in China? It would 
have been far simpler to do it that way. What is the size of China's 
sovereign wealth fund?


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