Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Thursday 07 April 2011, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Du, 03 apr 11, 10:30:19, C. Hurschler wrote: > > radeon - Using the radeon driver (no xorg.conf, default installation): > > > > http://pastebin.com/B34BSsQJ > > > > Symptoms: cannot change to console Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. The screen is blank > > and the monitor is put in sleep mode (!). KDE System-Settings:Desktop > > crashes every time without exception. > > Some stuff that looks suspicious to me (besides what Camaleòn already > spotted): > > (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported. > ... > (II) RADEON(0): No DRI yet on Evergreen > > Hope this helps, > Andrei Well it doesn't help me much, I'm just a user. I have a multi-boot system and on an up-to-date aptosid install, the radeon driver works very well. Squeeze seems to be stuck with a version that is unstable (sigh) on my hardware. For what it's worth, one thing that did help with the fglrx in squeeze was turning checking "disapble functunality checks" in "Configure Desktop Effects - Advanced" Thanks, C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201104102218.26928.list.hursch...@gmx.de
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Du, 03 apr 11, 10:30:19, C. Hurschler wrote: > > radeon - Using the radeon driver (no xorg.conf, default installation): > > http://pastebin.com/B34BSsQJ > > Symptoms: cannot change to console Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. The screen is blank and > the monitor is put in sleep mode (!). KDE System-Settings:Desktop crashes > every time without exception. Some stuff that looks suspicious to me (besides what Camaleòn already spotted): (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported. ... (II) RADEON(0): No DRI yet on Evergreen Hope this helps, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:30:19 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote: > On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> It should work, "radeon" is one of the most advanced open drivers for >> this task (3D accleration/openGL) :-) >> >> If you want to give a second chance to radeon driver (I'd do), just >> upload your full "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" file to "www.pastebin.com" so >> people here can review it. >> >> > radeon - Using the radeon driver (no xorg.conf, default installation): > > http://pastebin.com/B34BSsQJ These lines are "suspicious": (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols. And of course, the latest ones: Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC memreq 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success > Symptoms: cannot change to console Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. The screen is blank > and the monitor is put in sleep mode (!). KDE System-Settings:Desktop > crashes every time without exception. You can report this as I already suggested. Being the radeon driver you will have no problem at all. > fglrx - Using Squeeze packages and xorg.conf generated by aticonfig > > http://pastebin.com/Z6x9LthQ > > Symptoms: compositing works, 3D works (googl-earth). Compositing gets > turned off regularly, perhaps on logon by some process that I don't know > and that no one tells me about (this reminds me of windows). Regular > lock-ups with green radom fluttering pixelation on the whole screen. > Otherwise normal behavior. For this the only I can suggest is using the latest driver from AMD site which requires recompiling. I can't tell for sure, but I guess Debian BTS will not handle this driver as is closed source. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.04.03.14.46...@gmail.com
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 14:31:11 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote: > On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> > I don't think compositing worked either, but I can't remember for >> > sure. >> >> It should work, "radeon" is one of the most advanced open drivers for >> this task (3D accleration/openGL) :-) > > it doesn't. I'll post the log files and a better description as soon as > I have the time. Good. Any problem with the radeon driver can be filled and addressed in Debian BTS (Bug Tracking System). Closed source driver is another story... >> You can always get the updated closed source driver directly from AMD >> site. You will have to recompile by yourself if the kernel gets >> updated, though. > > I use Debian Stable because I don't want to waste my time compiling > stuff. When it comes to VGA drivers you can encounter yourself in a situation in that only the latest closed sources drivers work, so you are "forced" to compile ;-( > That worked well in Lenny with debian-multimedia and > lenny-backports. Squeeze is IMHO nowhere near as close to being a > production desktop system as Lenny was, but my impression might be > biased by the problems I am having with my Radeon card... With any new release you are: 1/ Changing the kernel (to another newer one) 2/ Changing xorg stack (to an updated one) And any of these can make you face problems with your VGA. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.04.03.13.58...@gmail.com
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:30:28 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote: > > On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote: > > > > BTW the card seems to be a "Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450]" > > > >> Have you tried another driver (for example, "radeon" or an updated > >> version of Catalyst -now is 11.3-)? > > > > I've tried radeon, but strangely I can't ctrl-alt-F1 to console with > > it > > What happens when you press that combo? Nothing, black/blank screen? Can > you jump to another tty (2,3,4,5...)? > > > I don't think compositing worked either, but I can't remember > > for sure. > > It should work, "radeon" is one of the most advanced open drivers for > this task (3D accleration/openGL) :-) > > If you want to give a second chance to radeon driver (I'd do), just > upload your full "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" file to "www.pastebin.com" so > people here can review it. > radeon - Using the radeon driver (no xorg.conf, default installation): http://pastebin.com/B34BSsQJ Symptoms: cannot change to console Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. The screen is blank and the monitor is put in sleep mode (!). KDE System-Settings:Desktop crashes every time without exception. fglrx - Using Squeeze packages and xorg.conf generated by aticonfig http://pastebin.com/Z6x9LthQ Symptoms: compositing works, 3D works (googl-earth). Compositing gets turned off regularly, perhaps on logon by some process that I don't know and that no one tells me about (this reminds me of windows). Regular lock-ups with green radom fluttering pixelation on the whole screen. Otherwise normal behavior. Summary: I hope this information helps someone. The on-board Graphics chip I have (ATI) is too old for fglrx in Squeeze, and also does not work properly with radeon in Squeeze (Lenny fglrx worked well). Thats what motivated me to try the passive HD 5040 card. Thanks for your help, C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201104031030.20087.list.hursch...@gmx.de
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On 04/02/2011 07:25 AM, C. Hurschler wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2011, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/01/2011 09:57 AM, C. Hurschler wrote: Hi, I'm looking for an inexpensive alternative, does anyone have any experience with the GeForce 8400GS? I put a fanless 8400GS in my wife/kids' PC. It's cheap, handles compiz just fine and playing videos with mplayer consumes an unmeasurable amount of CPU when playing videos when hooked into the vdpau libraries. (I just got the GeForce 210 and notice that it's about 40% faster than the 8400GS while running about 5C cooler.) Thanks for the feedback, this is the kind of thing one never finds on the compatibility lists. I myself am looking for a passively cooled card that can do compositing and 3D for purposes of googl-earth (no gaming), and last but not least be able to play DVDs without hanging. I added this to the bottom of the /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf : include = /etc/mplayer/site.specific In that file are the two lines: vo=vdpau,xv, vc=ffmpeg12vdpau,ffwmv3vdpau,ffvc1vdpau,ffh264vdpau,ffodivxvdpau, Note the trailing commas. They make mplayer fallback to built-in code if those libraries aren't installed. -- "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d97222a.4030...@cox.net
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:30:28 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote: > > On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote: > > > > BTW the card seems to be a "Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450]" > > > >> Have you tried another driver (for example, "radeon" or an updated > >> version of Catalyst -now is 11.3-)? > > > > I've tried radeon, but strangely I can't ctrl-alt-F1 to console with > > it > > What happens when you press that combo? Nothing, black/blank screen? Can > you jump to another tty (2,3,4,5...)? > > > I don't think compositing worked either, but I can't remember > > for sure. > > It should work, "radeon" is one of the most advanced open drivers for > this task (3D accleration/openGL) :-) it doesn't. I'll post the log files and a better description as soon as I have the time. > > If you want to give a second chance to radeon driver (I'd do), just > upload your full "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" file to "www.pastebin.com" so > people here can review it. > > > fglrx-driver is at 1:10-9-3 in Squeeze, 11.3 does not seem to be in > > squeeze- backports. > > (...) > > You can always get the updated closed source driver directly from AMD > site. You will have to recompile by yourself if the kernel gets updated, > though. I use Debian Stable because I don't want to waste my time compiling stuff. That worked well in Lenny with debian-multimedia and lenny-backports. Squeeze is IMHO nowhere near as close to being a production desktop system as Lenny was, but my impression might be biased by the problems I am having with my Radeon card... > > Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201104021431.12020.list.hursch...@gmx.de
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Saturday 02 April 2011, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/01/2011 09:57 AM, C. Hurschler wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking for an inexpensive alternative, does anyone have any > > experience with the GeForce 8400GS? > > I put a fanless 8400GS in my wife/kids' PC. It's cheap, handles compiz > just fine and playing videos with mplayer consumes an unmeasurable > amount of CPU when playing videos when hooked into the vdpau libraries. > > (I just got the GeForce 210 and notice that it's about 40% faster than > the 8400GS while running about 5C cooler.) Thanks for the feedback, this is the kind of thing one never finds on the compatibility lists. I myself am looking for a passively cooled card that can do compositing and 3D for purposes of googl-earth (no gaming), and last but not least be able to play DVDs without hanging. C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201104021425.15814.list.hursch...@gmx.de
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On 04/01/2011 09:57 AM, C. Hurschler wrote: Hi, I'm looking for an inexpensive alternative, does anyone have any experience with the GeForce 8400GS? I put a fanless 8400GS in my wife/kids' PC. It's cheap, handles compiz just fine and playing videos with mplayer consumes an unmeasurable amount of CPU when playing videos when hooked into the vdpau libraries. (I just got the GeForce 210 and notice that it's about 40% faster than the 8400GS while running about 5C cooler.) -- "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d966c8b.4020...@cox.net
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:30:28 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote: > On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote: > BTW the card seems to be a "Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450]" > >> Have you tried another driver (for example, "radeon" or an updated >> version of Catalyst -now is 11.3-)? > > I've tried radeon, but strangely I can't ctrl-alt-F1 to console with > it What happens when you press that combo? Nothing, black/blank screen? Can you jump to another tty (2,3,4,5...)? > I don't think compositing worked either, but I can't remember > for sure. It should work, "radeon" is one of the most advanced open drivers for this task (3D accleration/openGL) :-) If you want to give a second chance to radeon driver (I'd do), just upload your full "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" file to "www.pastebin.com" so people here can review it. > fglrx-driver is at 1:10-9-3 in Squeeze, 11.3 does not seem to be in > squeeze- backports. (...) You can always get the updated closed source driver directly from AMD site. You will have to recompile by yourself if the kernel gets updated, though. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.04.01.16.49...@gmail.com
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Friday 01 April 2011, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:57:19 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote: > > I've been using a Radeon HD 5000 Graphics card with fglrx (see below). > > I have frequent lock-ups in Squeeze. > BTW the card seems to be a "Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450]" > Have you tried another driver (for example, "radeon" or an updated > version of Catalyst -now is 11.3-)? I've tried radeon, but strangely I can't ctrl-alt-F1 to console with it I don't think compositing worked either, but I can't remember for sure. fglrx-driver is at 1:10-9-3 in Squeeze, 11.3 does not seem to be in squeeze- backports. > > You can make further tests before dropping the card (review the logs for > any specific error, disable desktop effects...). 3D and compositing work, but compositing is always turned off again on reboot. Otherwise I haven't noticed anything except for the freezing. The symptoms are lots of green dots superimposed on the screen and I am no longer able to return to console. I have not tried ssh'ing in to restart X, so I don't know if the system is really totally hung. > > > I'm looking for an inexpensive alternative, does anyone have any > > experience with the GeForce 8400GS? > > Not with that model, but I've had only good experiences with nvidia's: > 7600GS (ok), quadro fx 1500 (ok), quadro nvs 440 (ok). ok, thanks. > > Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201104011830.28717.list.hursch...@gmx.de
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:57:19 +0200, C. Hurschler wrote: > I've been using a Radeon HD 5000 Graphics card with fglrx (see below). > I have frequent lock-ups in Squeeze. Have you tried another driver (for example, "radeon" or an updated version of Catalyst -now is 11.3-)? You can make further tests before dropping the card (review the logs for any specific error, disable desktop effects...). > I'm looking for an inexpensive alternative, does anyone have any > experience with the GeForce 8400GS? Not with that model, but I've had only good experiences with nvidia's: 7600GS (ok), quadro fx 1500 (ok), quadro nvs 440 (ok). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.04.01.15.51...@gmail.com
Re: Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
Nowadays (since kernel 2.6.38) the Radeon HD 5000 is also supported by the open source driver radeon. -- Regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/in4s3c$bpt$1...@dough.gmane.org
Graphics - Radeon HD 5000 lock-ups
Hi, I've been using a Radeon HD 5000 Graphics card with fglrx (see below). I have frequent lock-ups in Squeeze. I'm looking for an inexpensive alternative, does anyone have any experience with the GeForce 8400GS? Thanks, C 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan HDMI Audio [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series] ii fglrx-atieventsd 1:10-9-3 external events daemon for the non-free AMD/ATI r6xx - r7xx display driver ii fglrx-control1:10-9-3 control panel for the non-free AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx, r7xx display driver ii fglrx-driver 1:10-9-3 non-free AMD/ATI r6xx - r7xx display driver ii fglrx-glx1:10-9-3 proprietary libGL for the non-free AMD/ATI r6xx - r7xx display driver ii fglrx-glx-ia32 1:10-9-3 proprietary libGL for the non-free AMD/ATI display driver (ia32 libs) ii fglrx-modules-dkms 1:10-9-3 dkms module source for the non-free AMD/ATI r6xx - r7xx display driver -- C. Hurschler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201104011657.19697.list.hursch...@gmx.de
