large HD partition plan
After 8 years on my PIIIs w/10Gb HDs, I've bought a Core2 duo w/320GB HD and 4GB mem. I will install Lenny AMD64. Usage will will be primarily web development using multiple browsers, Emacs, GIMP, Inkscape and ImageMagick. I also plan to run Vista Home Premium in a VM (probably VirtualBox). I suspect that large swap and temp partitions will be helpful, as I tend to leave my apps up and running. Space is needed for mirroring 3 or 4 web sites at a time; may be in /home/* or /var/www/ LAN servers, Apache, mail and MySQL will remain on the PIIIs. All the HOWTOs, etc. that I've found talk about 2-10GB HDs, which were helpful in 2000 when I first installed Debian. I find them less so when looking at so much more space. I will appreciate any and all suggestions for a partition plan, especially those where a rationale for the plan is included. cheers, gary -- Anyone can make a usable web site. It takes a graphic designer to make it slow, confusing and painful to use. begin:vcard fn:Gary Turner n:Turner;Gary org:Gary Turner, Web Developer adr:;;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Czar x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://gtwebdev.com/ version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: large HD partition plan
gary turner wrote: After 8 years on my PIIIs w/10Gb HDs, I've bought a Core2 duo w/320GB HD and 4GB mem. I will install Lenny AMD64. Usage will will be primarily web development using multiple browsers, Emacs, GIMP, Inkscape and ImageMagick. I also plan to run Vista Home Premium in a VM (probably VirtualBox). I suspect that large swap and temp partitions will be helpful, as I tend to leave my apps up and running. Space is needed for mirroring 3 or 4 web sites at a time; may be in /home/* or /var/www/ LAN servers, Apache, mail and MySQL will remain on the PIIIs. All the HOWTOs, etc. that I've found talk about 2-10GB HDs, which were helpful in 2000 when I first installed Debian. I find them less so when looking at so much more space. I will appreciate any and all suggestions for a partition plan, especially those where a rationale for the plan is included. Even in the old time, I don't think partition plans were much good, it depends a lot on the planned use. You can use LVM, this way you can change the partitioning relatively easily if you need more space in a specific partition. -- Don't lose Your head To gain a minute You need your head Your brains are in it. -- Burma Shave Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://move.to/hpkb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: large HD partition plan
gary turner: Usage will will be primarily web development using multiple browsers, Emacs, GIMP, Inkscape and ImageMagick. I also plan to run Vista Home Premium in a VM (probably VirtualBox). I suspect that large swap and temp partitions will be helpful, as I tend to leave my apps up and running. With 4GB RAM you probably don't need much swap. If your machine starts swapping notoriously, things will get ridiculously slow anyway. I have a machine with 4GB RAM myself and I never managed to use all of it. I am not running VMs, though. All the HOWTOs, etc. that I've found talk about 2-10GB HDs, which were helpful in 2000 when I first installed Debian. I find them less so when looking at so much more space. Use 10-20GB for the regular system, 1-2GB for swap and mount the rest on /srv with subdirectories for VMs, mirrors etc. A separate /home might be a good idea as well. I have /srv/files, /srv/svn, /srv/www, /srv/pgsql etc. And I put /tmp on a tmpfs. J. -- Atrocities committed in Rwanda pervade my mind when I am discussing mundanities with acquaintances. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Storing whole sarge disto on a HD partition?
I'm a dial up user who purchased sarge on a 14 cd set. I'm buying a laptop and was wondering, is there a faq or howto anyplace on copying the whole distribution to a partition on a HD? It would be great to be away from home, and if a package is recommended to me to just be able to log into root and run apt-get while on the road. --- Scotty -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Storing whole sarge disto on a HD partition?
I'm a dial up user who purchased sarge on a 14 cd set. I'm buying a laptop and was wondering, is there a faq or howto anyplace on copying the whole distribution to a partition on a HD? It would be great to be away from home, and if a package is recommended to me to just be able to log into root and run apt-get while on the road. Just mirror the repository (rsync would probably be the way of choice) somewhere on your filesystem and point apt.conf to that place. Probably you could just copy the files from the CDs instead of mirroring, too. The apt-conf-settings for the cd is also just a pointer to a filesystem-location Or if you have connection to a broadband-access sometime : http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror
Re: Storing whole sarge disto on a HD partition?
I'm buying a laptop and was wondering, is there a faq or howto anyplace on copying the whole distribution to a partition on a HD? It would be great to be away from home, and if a package is recommended to me to just be able to log into root and run apt-get while on the road. Just mirror the repository (rsync would probably be the way of choice) somewhere on your filesystem and point apt.conf to that place. I did that once. I copied the isos to the HD, mounted them with -o loop, then I put a symlink to each one in /var/www, and then put an entry for each one of them in sources.list, and I could use apt to install from them. You need to install a web server for that. Maybe another method exists, this one is simple enough. Regards. -- Homepage : http://geocities.com/arhuaco The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool. -- Richard Feynman.
Re: Storing whole sarge disto on a HD partition?
Scott Fitzgerald wrote: I'm a dial up user who purchased sarge on a 14 cd set. I'm buying a laptop and was wondering, is there a faq or howto anyplace on copying the whole distribution to a partition on a HD? It would be great to be away from home, and if a package is recommended to me to just be able to log into root and run apt-get while on the road. I do that. 1. use mkisofs to create an iso file for each of the 14 cd's 2. mount xxx.iso -r -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt/Debian3.1/CD1 ... Note you have to create sufficient loop devices to mount all 14: rmmod loop modprobe loop max_loop=14 C=8; for C in `seq 8 14`; do mknod /dev/loop$C b 7 $C; done It really is not necessary to mount all 14: I have only gotten to need 10 CD's. I have 9 mounted and I run synaptic on that. Adjust your sourcelist: deb file:/mnt/Debian3.1/CD1/debian sarge main contrib ... run apt-get update Makes installing anything a breeze: use it all the time. In fact I still run off 14 CD's I bought when Sarge was still testing. Where I live they won't deliver the 14 CD's. HTH H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Storing whole sarge disto on a HD partition?
Scott Fitzgerald wrote: I'm a dial up user who purchased sarge on a 14 cd set. I'm buying a laptop and was wondering, is there a faq or howto anyplace on copying the whole distribution to a partition on a HD? It would be great to be away from home, and if a package is recommended to me to just be able to log into root and run apt-get while on the road. --- Scotty You might want to check out apt-move. Theres a nice discussion about doing the exact same thing here: http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=698 basically you can make a repository from the cds to your local hd, providing you have enough space for it. hth, jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Major problem with boot disk and reading HD partition
Hi All, I've kinda buggered up my install of Linux, anyhow, I booted my ram disk from my floppy disks. However, when I mount a Linux partition of my HD install I cannot read the contents of any of the directories what gives? Is there no way to read and manipulate the contents on the hard drive? Thanks, Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: HD Partition
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, J Horacio MG wrote: Make `df /usr', `df /home', `df /var',... in your current installation, Did you mean 'du -s' instead of 'df'? df will only tell you how much the entire partition is using, sort of useless unless you're simply resizing partitions without changing the file system layout. 'du -s' will tell you how much space the named director(y|ies) use(s).
Re: FW: HD Partition
Brad dixit: ~ On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, J Horacio MG wrote: ~ ~ Make `df /usr', `df /home', `df /var',... in your current installation, ~ ~ Did you mean 'du -s' instead of 'df'? df will only tell you how much the ~ entire partition is using, sort of useless unless you're simply resizing ~ partitions without changing the file system layout. 'du -s' will tell you ~ how much space the named director(y|ies) use(s). Well, since I already have my filesystem scattered into different partitions, `df' is useful. But yes, I should have said `du /dir' (for every directory we want to keep in a separate partition) for someone whose system is all in one partition. Shame `du' won't give any percentages at all. Regards -- Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA
Re: FW: HD Partition
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, J Horacio MG wrote: Well, since I already have my filesystem scattered into different partitions, `df' is useful. But yes, I should have said `du /dir' (for every directory we want to keep in a separate partition) for someone whose system is all in one partition. du -sh or du -ch are more useful than raw du. The -x option can be helpful in some cases as well. Shame `du' won't give any percentages at all. If you want percentage of the entire partition, grab a calculator and divide by the size of the partition. If you want percentage of the amount used by the system, grab a calculator and divide by the total space used.
HD Partition
hi all i have an 8.4GB hard drive and i would like some suggestion as to how to divide it. how much space should i devote to each directory and which ones should be real partitions and which should be logical? /usr = /home = /etc = /tmp = /root = /var = am i missing other important directories? the machine would have a maximum of three different users. i also have 64MB of RAM do i still need to make a swap partition? please cc my email address since i'm not in the user list. TYA pd
Re: HD Partition
On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Patrick Dahiroc wrote: i have an 8.4GB hard drive and i would like some suggestion as to how to divide it. how much space should i devote to each directory and which ones should be real partitions and which should be logical? I've just been asking this question in the past few days (except i'm using a 4G HD), check the archives for more information. Partitioning drives is almost an art form, it's hard to know exactly how much each section is going to need. First, we'll start with the most important directory you forgot: / / should contain /bin, /sbin, /lib, /boot, /dev, /etc, and possibly /root. All these directories are needed to actually start the computer, they can't easily be mounted from another partition. These are also pretty small. 100M should be more than enough, as long as you put the various programs where they're supposed to be. (Debian packages do this automatically) /usr = This will probably be the biggest, unless you store a lot of pictures, mp3s, or other large datafiles in /home. you could even consider splitting /usr/local onto a second partition, depending on what exactly your plans are. /home = 3 users... it depends on how much you plan to store for each user. Pictures and such add up quickly! /tmp = Not really sure on this one. However, it's insecure to mount /tmp from another partition unless unauthorized people have no access to the console. /var = If you get a lot of mail, or gather a lot of usenet news, then this needs to be big. Otherwise, 500M will be enough for most cases (i think). am i missing other important directories? Remember that you can also create other directories. For example, if you wanted to store mp3 music, you might put that on a separate partition just to keep it out of the way. The whole 8.4G doesn't have to go towards system directories. You could even leave some of the drive unpartitioned, to be used later when you find a use for it. i also have 64MB of RAM do i still need to make a swap partition? i'd recommend it. Finally, note that some of the numbers i've given could easily be wrong for your needs. Feel free to change them as you see fit.
FW: HD Partition
Make `df /usr', `df /home', `df /var',... in your current installation, and that will give you an idea of the percentage space you need for each one. For directories which include others, like /, you can do `df' and substract the rest. The dir /root should remain in /, no need to make a separate partition. The same goes for /etc. Here goes my partition table with a disk free command: h0rus:~$ df Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/hda3 77764 1355460194 18% / /dev/hda51088223 295307 736691 29% /usr /dev/hda6 295474 137781 142433 49% /usr/doc /dev/hda7 295474 56408 223806 20% /usr/X11R6 /dev/hda8 349910 27323 304516 8% /home /dev/hda9 194405 10029384073 54% /home/alt /dev/hda10691980 512 655725 0% /usr/local /dev/hda11272145 24120 233970 9% /var /dev/hdc12198060 108 187724 0% /tmp /dev/hdc10991000 116928 822879 12% /opt Notice that the percentages are used space. /home/alt is a directory which I created to keep varios things. /opt is used to install big (huge) programs not from the distribution. /usr/local is for programs not from the distro. I gave some space to /tmp so that I could uncompress big-big files in it temporarily, so it will be empty most of the time; you can make /var/tmp a symlink to /tmp. The first, second, and third partitions are native, you'll have to create extended partitions from the fourth partition. As for the swap partition, yes, you do need one. I've got two, a 128MB and a 64MB. Regards -- Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA
Installation from Win95-Fat32 HD partition?
It is possible to install debian2.0 from Win95 (Fat32) HD partition? If so, could someone explain how to do it? I have not found information in The Can I after having installed the base system from 5 floppies just on the other console 'mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /win95' ? Which module have I to install from the base system to be able to mount Win95-Fat32 partition ? Thanks in advance Jan Krupa
