HELP: Newbie needs help with crash

1998-03-05 Thread Albert Hurd
My computer just seized up (cursor frose; ctrl-alt bksp and ctrl-alt del
did nothing). I then warm rebooted. After the usual, I got:

Checking root file system
Parallelizing fsck
/dev/hda2 contains a file system with errors, check forced
/dev/hda2: unattached inode 28780
/dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
FSCK FAIL. lease repair manually and reboot. 
Please note that the root file system is currently mounted read only. To
remount it write
#mount -n -o remount,rw /

I remounted as requested and got

EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended.
EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_check_blocks_bitmap: wrong free blocks
count in super  block, Stored = 3170112, counted = 3170136
 EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_check_inodes_bitmap: wrong free inodes
count in super block, Stored = 977529, counted = 977522

I then tried #fsck and got

Parallelizing fsck version 1.10.

#fsck -r gave same thing.

Then tried #e2fsck /dev/hda2 as advised above and got

/dev/hda2 is mounted. Do you want to continue (y/n).

I cautiously responded n. I also tried #rdev -R/vmlinuz 1  which Sobell's
book says should
force Linux to boot with root file system mounted readonly, and got

1: no such file or directory.


I am now at a standstill. Any help on what to do next would be much
appreciated.

Albert Hurd


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Re: HELP: Newbie needs help with crash

1998-03-05 Thread alemas
 Go ahead, and run e2fsck, but read the man page first!  I don't guarantee
anything for you here (disclaimer) and am not a LINUX expert, but it did work
for me when I received similar error messages.  Read those man pages.  If you
can't do so on your Debian LINUX OS, the man pages are on the Web, too, if you
have access to another OS.  Actually, I must admit, though, that I proceeded
with e2fsck without reading the man at the time, although I wouldn't suggest
doing so in reaction to _any problem_ for anyone else.  :-)

  _Art

[Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
 My computer just seized up (cursor frose; ctrl-alt bksp and ctrl-alt del
 did nothing). I then warm rebooted. After the usual, I got:
 
 Checking root file system
 Parallelizing fsck
 /dev/hda2 contains a file system with errors, check forced
 /dev/hda2: unattached inode 28780
 /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
 FSCK FAIL. lease repair manually and reboot. 
 Please note that the root file system is currently mounted read only. To
 remount it write
 #mount -n -o remount,rw /
 
 I remounted as requested and got
 
 EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended.
 EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_check_blocks_bitmap: wrong free blocks
 count in super  block, Stored = 3170112, counted = 3170136
  EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_check_inodes_bitmap: wrong free inodes
 count in super block, Stored = 977529, counted = 977522
 
 I then tried #fsck and got
 
 Parallelizing fsck version 1.10.
 
 #fsck -r gave same thing.
 
 Then tried #e2fsck /dev/hda2 as advised above and got
 
 /dev/hda2 is mounted. Do you want to continue (y/n).
 
 I cautiously responded n. I also tried #rdev -R/vmlinuz 1  which Sobell's
 book says should
 force Linux to boot with root file system mounted readonly, and got
 
 1: no such file or directory.
 
 
 I am now at a standstill. Any help on what to do next would be much
 appreciated.
 
 Albert Hurd
 
 
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Re: HELP: Newbie needs help with crash

1998-03-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
Albert Hurd wrote:
  My computer just seized up (cursor frose; ctrl-alt bksp and ctrl-alt del
  did nothing).

This was probably not the operating system but X.  If you have a network or
serial connection to another machine or a dumb terminal it should still be 
possible to get out of this without hitting the reset button or the power
switch.  If you can, get a telnet session to your frozen machine and
kill the X server.  That should release the session on the frozen machine
so that you don't get the problems caused by rebooting without a shutdown.

If you have only the one machine, you are stuck, because X won't let you switch
to a virtual terminal to do this.

If you do have to hit the reset button, try to wait for a minute after any 
disk activity.  That should give the system a chance to sync the disks and
reduce the chance of damaging files; it's not guaranteed though.

 I then warm rebooted. After the usual, I got:
  
  Checking root file system
  Parallelizing fsck
  /dev/hda2 contains a file system with errors, check forced
  /dev/hda2: unattached inode 28780
  /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
  FSCK FAIL. lease repair manually and reboot. 
  Please note that the root file system is currently mounted read only. To
  remount it write
  #mount -n -o remount,rw /
  
  I remounted as requested and got
  
  EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended.
  EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_check_blocks_bitmap: wrong free blocks
  count in super  block, Stored = 3170112, counted = 3170136
   EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_check_inodes_bitmap: wrong free inodes
  count in super block, Stored = 977529, counted = 977522
  
  I then tried #fsck and got
  
  Parallelizing fsck version 1.10.
  
  #fsck -r gave same thing.
  
  Then tried #e2fsck /dev/hda2 as advised above and got
  
  /dev/hda2 is mounted. Do you want to continue (y/n).

You really have no choice but to say yes here.  You can't unmount your root
file system without shutting down altogether!

  
  I cautiously responded n. I also tried #rdev -R/vmlinuz 1  which Sobell's
  book says should
  force Linux to boot with root file system mounted readonly, and got
  
  1: no such file or directory.
  
  
  I am now at a standstill. Any help on what to do next would be much
  appreciated.
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Re: HELP: Newbie needs help with crash

1998-03-05 Thread servis
On  5 Mar, Oliver Elphick wrote:

 If you have only the one machine, you are stuck, because X won't let you 
 switch
 to a virtual terminal to do this.
 

For the future crashes(not that should be any), you could get the
joystick module and the jsr_daemon program.  This allows you to perform
two different functions by pushing the two joystick buttons in different
patterns.  I have it set for reboot or to kill xdm.  The joystick debian
package is compiled for 2.0.27 and 2.0.30 but if you grab the source you
can compile it for your current kernel. I have it compiled for 2.0.33 if
you want.  The jsr_daemon is not Debianized(that I know of) you can find
it at your local Sunsite mirror.  

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Re: HELP: Newbie needs help with crash

1998-03-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote:

[ description of problem, and Oliver's helpful advice snipped ]
:   
:   Checking root file system
:   Parallelizing fsck
:   /dev/hda2 contains a file system with errors, check forced
:   /dev/hda2: unattached inode 28780
:   /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
:   FSCK FAIL. lease repair manually and reboot. 
:   Please note that the root file system is currently mounted read only. To
:   remount it write
:   #mount -n -o remount,rw /

You should have run fsck at this point, and _then_ remounted it
read/write.  As you discovered, mounting a filesystem read/write when
errors are present is not good.

:   I remounted as requested and got

(well, it did't request that you do so; it was telling you how)

:   
:   EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended.
:   EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_check_blocks_bitmap: wrong free blocks
:   count in super  block, Stored = 3170112, counted = 3170136
:EXT2-fs error (device 03:02): ext2_check_inodes_bitmap: wrong free inodes
:   count in super block, Stored = 977529, counted = 977522
:   
:   I then tried #fsck and got
:   
:   Parallelizing fsck version 1.10.
:   
:   #fsck -r gave same thing.
:   
:   Then tried #e2fsck /dev/hda2 as advised above and got
:   
:   /dev/hda2 is mounted. Do you want to continue (y/n).
: 
: You really have no choice but to say yes here.  You can't unmount your root
: file system without shutting down altogether!
: 
:   
:   I cautiously responded n. I also tried #rdev -R/vmlinuz 1  which Sobell's
:   book says should
:   force Linux to boot with root file system mounted readonly, and got
:   
:   1: no such file or directory.
:   
:   
:   I am now at a standstill. Any help on what to do next would be much
:   appreciated.

In your situation, I would boot from the rescue floppy, and manually
fsck your partition(s).  You could also mount them after fsck'ing, and
poke around to see if everything's where it ought to be; alternatively,
you could just reboot and cross your fingers.

You really shouldn't run fsck on a mounted filesystem, which of course
is problematic in the case of the root filesystem.

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