Re: PCI-Hardware-Modems in Deutschland?

2005-03-09 Thread Thomas Hoehn
Manfred Sindhoff wrote:
 Thomas Höhn wrote:
 
 Hi,

 kennt jemand eine echte hardware-basierte PCI-Modemkarte (mit eigenem
 Controller, kein Winmodem oder Linmodem - so daß kein zusätlicher
 Treiber unter Linux notwendig ist), die auf dem deutschen Markt
 erhältlich ist? Auf der Modem-Compatibility List
 (http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gromitkc/pci_list.html) sind einige
 controller-based-Modems aufgeführt, die aber in Deutschland nicht
 vertrieben werden.

 Danke für jeden Hinweis,
 Thomas


 Z.B.
 http://www.devolo.de/de_DE/produkte/analog/ml56kpci.html
 mit Chipsatz Conexant CX11252-11
 
 oder hier
 
 http://search.ebay.de/MicroLink-56k-PCI

Bullshit, das ist ein billiges Winmodem, mit dazu noch lizenzpflichtigen
Treiber!

http://portal.suse.com/sdb/de/2004/07/thallma_91_conexantmodem.html

 Gruß, Manfred


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Re: PCI-Hardware-Modems in Deutschland?

2005-03-09 Thread Manfred Sindhoff
Thomas Hoehn wrote:
Manfred Sindhoff wrote:
Thomas Höhn wrote:

Hi,
kennt jemand eine echte hardware-basierte PCI-Modemkarte (mit eigenem
Controller, kein Winmodem oder Linmodem - so daß kein zusätlicher
Treiber unter Linux notwendig ist), die auf dem deutschen Markt
erhältlich ist? Auf der Modem-Compatibility List
(http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gromitkc/pci_list.html) sind einige
controller-based-Modems aufgeführt, die aber in Deutschland nicht
vertrieben werden.
Danke für jeden Hinweis,
Thomas

Z.B.
http://www.devolo.de/de_DE/produkte/analog/ml56kpci.html
mit Chipsatz Conexant CX11252-11
oder hier
http://search.ebay.de/MicroLink-56k-PCI

Bullshit, das ist ein billiges Winmodem, mit dazu noch lizenzpflichtigen
Treiber!
Sorry, hast recht, hab nicht genau genug geschaut und dachte, das
Tux-Icon auf der Modem-Compatibility List würde reichen. Scheint
ja echt ein Problem zu sein, da die Hersteller meist keine Info
zum verbauten Chip liefern.
Kannst Du kein externes Modem nutzen? Fand ich seinerzeit eh besser.
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PCI-Hardware-Modems in Deutschland?

2005-03-08 Thread Thomas Höhn
Hi,

kennt jemand eine echte hardware-basierte PCI-Modemkarte (mit eigenem
Controller, kein Winmodem oder Linmodem - so daß kein zusätlicher
Treiber unter Linux notwendig ist), die auf dem deutschen Markt
erhältlich ist? Auf der Modem-Compatibility List
(http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gromitkc/pci_list.html) sind einige
controller-based-Modems aufgeführt, die aber in Deutschland nicht
vertrieben werden.

Danke für jeden Hinweis,
Thomas


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Re: PCI-Hardware-Modems in Deutschland?

2005-03-08 Thread Manfred Sindhoff
Thomas Höhn wrote:
Hi,
kennt jemand eine echte hardware-basierte PCI-Modemkarte (mit eigenem
Controller, kein Winmodem oder Linmodem - so daß kein zusätlicher
Treiber unter Linux notwendig ist), die auf dem deutschen Markt
erhältlich ist? Auf der Modem-Compatibility List
(http://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gromitkc/pci_list.html) sind einige
controller-based-Modems aufgeführt, die aber in Deutschland nicht
vertrieben werden.
Danke für jeden Hinweis,
Thomas

Z.B.
http://www.devolo.de/de_DE/produkte/analog/ml56kpci.html
mit Chipsatz Conexant CX11252-11
oder hier
http://search.ebay.de/MicroLink-56k-PCI
Gruß, Manfred
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Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-22 Thread d1temp

On 18 Aug, Brendan Cully wrote:
 On Saturday, 19 August 2000 at 11:34, Jack Morgan wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Cliff Wise wrote:
 An oxymoron is an element in classical rhetoric in which opposites are
 combined to sharpen a point, not to contradict it. An example would be *His
 impassioned plea was met by thunderous silence*. Giant shrimp probably exist
 as does the oft quoted non-oxymoron military intelligence.
 
  computer genius :-)
 
 on-topic debian-user post :)

To quote the dust ball of User Friendly: Microsoft Works

Sorry, don't recall the date that one was published.

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OFF TOPIC: oxymoron, was Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-19 Thread David Teague
Cliff

You present a correct definition for rhetoric, but my use was not as
a classical rhetorical device. The etymology I presented is correct.

Military intelligence is often called an oxymoron. If you have been
in the military, if you have seen the way they (indeed the way most
rigid bureaucracies work) you will inderstand that military
intelligence is indeed an oxymoron, in the root sense of moronic
brilliance. Besides, intelligence as used here is an inflation of
words; intelligence is used to mean information.

Existence of an object does not prevent the words used to describe
it from being an oxymoron.  Indeed Giant Shrimp exist, but that
certainly does not mean that the two words don't contradict each
other and in the root sense. Giant shrimp is indeed an oxymoron.

While I enjoy this, many won't and it is really off topic, so I
encourage you to continue this by private email.

David

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Cliff Wise wrote:

 
 An oxymoron is an element in classical rhetoric in which opposites are
 combined to sharpen a point, not to contradiuct it. An example would be *His
 empassioned plea was met by thunderous silence*. Giant shrimp probably exist
 as does the oft quoted non-oxymoron military intelligence.
 - Original Message -
 From: David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 2:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Hardware Modems
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [about hardware modems that don't work under linux and why.]
 
  Romeu:
 
  Well /explitive censored/ That is just awful. My 33.6 Modem says I
  get 66K throughput when compression is ineffect too.
 
  You ask what is an oxymoron  a self contradiction.
 
  Oxy means sharp, in german, oxygen is 'sour stuff (approximately)
  or sharp stuff. And moron means dull or blunt. so an oxymoron is
  'sharp-dull' or a self contradiction.
 
  Giant Shrimp for example.
 
  --David
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Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-18 Thread ferret

This is a Lucent Venus chipset modem. AFAICR, this is a PCI modem chipset
with an hardware DSP. You will need to have PCI serial support in your
kernel, or you will have to use 'lspci' to determine resource use.

You may want to check out www.linmodems.org for more information. There
should be a little HOWTO about manually configuring setserial.

Or you could try a 2.4.0-test kernel, if you are really desperate.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I used to think that way, to.
 But, according to the reply they gave me (with an English even worse than
 mine), they did it !!! Our modem is a hardware modem, but it has not
 direct access to the COM port, so it will not work under weird operating
 systems, or something like that. Actually, the modem runs well under
 windows, reaching the capacity of 115 Kbps (at least, windows say that).
 Take a look at their DOS readme section:
 
 For WINDOWS 3.1 or DOS 6.X users:
   Because you need to tell modem what resource is available on
   your system, you need to run CONFIGP.EXE first.
   For example:
 
  To set modem on com2 use: CONFIGP /i3 /0x2F8
 
  To inquire usage:  CONFIGP /?
 
 -
 
 I think this CONFIGP is a TSR that makes the connection between the
 (hardware!!!) modem and the COM port.
 
 Isn't great? I spent a lot of money ($150) buying a hardware modem that
 cannot work under linux.
 
 I think that writing a driver for it is painless than doing so for
 winmodems.
 
 By the way, what does oxymoron mean?
 
 
 
 
 
   

 David Teague  

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  
 s.wcu.edu cc: 
 debian-user@lists.debian.org  
Assunto: Re: Hardware Modems   

 17/08/00 14:43

   

   

 
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  They're making hardware modems that DON'T work under Linux.
 
 What do you mean? Does anyone know what this is about?
 
 I know about WinModems, all winmodems are certainly hardware
 modems, but different from the ones that have intelligence left in,
 that don't off load the work to the CPU to save fifty cents in
 chips, and don't require a propriatary driver that are also hardware.
 
 I thought the usage here was hardware modem meant modems that
 don't off load to the CPU and don't require a propriatary driver, so
 either already work under Linux or can be made to do so by some good
 soul writing a drivers?
 
 What does he mean hardware modem that don't work under Linux? I
 HOPE that is an oxymoron, but given the rapacity of some companies,
 I fear the worst.
 
 I would normally edit the message in a reply, but someone may be
 able to decipher what these folks are talking about for me from the
 stuff I left in.
 
 --David
 David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
  useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 
 
 
  - Repassado por Romeu Freitas Flores Junior/RJ/Petrobras em 17/08/00
  11:49 -
 
 
  Romeu
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  m.brcc:
 
   Assunto: En: E0008224/Lucent
 Venus
  16/08/00 Voice Modem
 
  23:22
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:50 AM
  Subject: FW: E0008224/Lucent Venus Voice Modem
 
 
  -- Âà§eªÌ support/askey_notes ©ó 2000/08/15 11:49 AM
  ---
 
 
  kain
  2000/08/14 03:31 PM
 
  ¦¬¥ó¤H¡G  support/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  °Æ¥»§Û°e¡G
  ¥D¦®¡G FW: E0008224/Lucent Venus Voice Modem
 
  Dear Sir
   This modem is hardware modem
   But we not have set com port tool for linux
 
  Regards
  Askey Technical Support
 
 
  Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED] ©ó 2000/08/10 06:56:39 AM
  ½Ð¦^À³ µ¹ Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ¦¬¥ó¤H¡Gsupport/askey_notes
  °Æ¥»§Û°e¡G
  ¥D¦®¡G  Lucent Venus Voice Modem
 
 
 
  Is FCC H8NV 1456VQH-T (Lucent Venus Voice Modem) a hardware modem? I
 bought
  it expecting so.
  It works fine with MS Windows, but I cannot set it up  under linux. It's
  not detected.
 
 
  Thanks
  Romeu F. Jr.
  Rio de Janeiro
  Brazil
 
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Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-18 Thread romeu

It's not PCI. It's ISA ! It's a hardware modem for sure.
The DOS config doesn't appear to work. I even made a firmware upgrade (I'm
really desperate).
Rob Clark (http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html) told me to use
isapnptools :
http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/
I'll try it out.
This weekend, I'll try to set it up under dos, also.
For  the moment, I'd like to thank you for the help given.

Gaúcho





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Enviado Por:  cc: David Teague  

[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED],   
 
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  Assunto: Re: Hardware Modems  



18/08/00 01:10  









This is a Lucent Venus chipset modem. AFAICR, this is a PCI modem chipset
with an hardware DSP. You will need to have PCI serial support in your
kernel, or you will have to use 'lspci' to determine resource use.

You may want to check out www.linmodems.org for more information. There
should be a little HOWTO about manually configuring setserial.

Or you could try a 2.4.0-test kernel, if you are really desperate.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I used to think that way, to.
 But, according to the reply they gave me (with an English even worse than
 mine), they did it !!! Our modem is a hardware modem, but it has not
 direct access to the COM port, so it will not work under weird operating
 systems, or something like that. Actually, the modem runs well under
 windows, reaching the capacity of 115 Kbps (at least, windows say that).
 Take a look at their DOS readme section:

 For WINDOWS 3.1 or DOS 6.X users:
   Because you need to tell modem what resource is available
on
   your system, you need to run CONFIGP.EXE first.
   For example:

  To set modem on com2 use: CONFIGP /i3 /0x2F8

  To inquire usage:  CONFIGP /?

 -

 I think this CONFIGP is a TSR that makes the connection between the
 (hardware!!!) modem and the COM port.

 Isn't great? I spent a lot of money ($150) buying a hardware modem that
 cannot work under linux.

 I think that writing a driver for it is painless than doing so for
 winmodems.

 By the way, what does oxymoron mean?







 David Teague

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 s.wcu.edu cc:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Assunto: Re: Hardware
Modems
 17/08/00 14:43










 On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  They're making hardware modems that DON'T work under Linux.

 What do you mean? Does anyone know what this is about?

 I know about WinModems, all winmodems are certainly hardware
 modems, but different from the ones that have intelligence left in,
 that don't off load the work to the CPU to save fifty cents in
 chips, and don't require a propriatary driver that are also hardware.

 I thought the usage here was hardware modem meant modems that
 don't off load to the CPU and don't require a propriatary driver, so
 either already work under Linux or can be made to do so by some good
 soul writing a drivers?

 What does he mean hardware modem that don't work under Linux? I
 HOPE that is an oxymoron, but given the rapacity of some companies,
 I fear the worst.

 I would normally edit the message in a reply, but someone may be
 able to decipher what these folks are talking about for me from the
 stuff I left in.

 --David
 David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
  useful, technically accurate, and friendly.



  - Repassado por Romeu Freitas Flores Junior/RJ/Petrobras em
17/08/00
  11:49 -
 

  Romeu

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  m.brcc:

   Assunto: En:
E0008224/Lucent
 Venus
  16/08/00 Voice Modem

  23:22

 
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:50 AM
  Subject

Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-18 Thread David Teague


On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[about hardware modems that don't work under linux and why.]

Romeu:

Well /explitive censored/ That is just awful. My 33.6 Modem says I
get 66K throughput when compression is ineffect too.

You ask what is an oxymoron  a self contradiction.

Oxy means sharp, in german, oxygen is 'sour stuff (approximately)
or sharp stuff. And moron means dull or blunt. so an oxymoron is
'sharp-dull' or a self contradiction.

Giant Shrimp for example.

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (I hope this is all of the above.)




Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-18 Thread Cliff Wise

An oxymoron is an element in classical rhetoric in which opposites are
combined to sharpen a point, not to contradiuct it. An example would be *His
empassioned plea was met by thunderous silence*. Giant shrimp probably exist
as does the oft quoted non-oxymoron military intelligence.
- Original Message -
From: David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Hardware Modems




 On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [about hardware modems that don't work under linux and why.]

 Romeu:

 Well /explitive censored/ That is just awful. My 33.6 Modem says I
 get 66K throughput when compression is ineffect too.

 You ask what is an oxymoron  a self contradiction.

 Oxy means sharp, in german, oxygen is 'sour stuff (approximately)
 or sharp stuff. And moron means dull or blunt. so an oxymoron is
 'sharp-dull' or a self contradiction.

 Giant Shrimp for example.

 --David
 David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
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Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-18 Thread Jack Morgan
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Cliff Wise wrote:
An oxymoron is an element in classical rhetoric in which opposites are
combined to sharpen a point, not to contradict it. An example would be *His
impassioned plea was met by thunderous silence*. Giant shrimp probably exist
as does the oft quoted non-oxymoron military intelligence.

 computer genius :-)

Jack Morgan Debian GNU/Linux Enthusiast
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.mandinka.org



Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-18 Thread Brendan Cully
On Saturday, 19 August 2000 at 11:34, Jack Morgan wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Cliff Wise wrote:
 An oxymoron is an element in classical rhetoric in which opposites are
 combined to sharpen a point, not to contradict it. An example would be *His
 impassioned plea was met by thunderous silence*. Giant shrimp probably exist
 as does the oft quoted non-oxymoron military intelligence.
 
  computer genius :-)

on-topic debian-user post :)

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Hardware Modems

2000-08-17 Thread romeu
They're making hardware modems that DON'T work under Linux.

- Repassado por Romeu Freitas Flores Junior/RJ/Petrobras em 17/08/00
11:49 -

   
Romeu   
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
m.brcc:
   
 Assunto: En: E0008224/Lucent Venus 
   
16/08/00 Voice Modem
   
23:22   
   

   

   




- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:50 AM
Subject: FW: E0008224/Lucent Venus Voice Modem


-- 轉呈者 support/askey_notes 於 2000/08/15 11:49 AM
---


kain
2000/08/14 03:31 PM

收件人:  support/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
副本抄送:
主旨: FW: E0008224/Lucent Venus Voice Modem

Dear Sir
 This modem is hardware modem
 But we not have set com port tool for linux

Regards
Askey Technical Support




Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 於 2000/08/10 06:56:39 AM
請回應 給 Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
收件人:support/askey_notes
副本抄送:
主旨:  Lucent Venus Voice Modem



Is FCC H8NV 1456VQH-T (Lucent Venus Voice Modem) a hardware modem? I bought
it expecting so.
It works fine with MS Windows, but I cannot set it up  under linux. It's
not detected.


Thanks
Romeu F. Jr.
Rio de Janeiro
Brazil

 - att-1.htm

(See attached file: att-1.htm)





Is FCC H8NV 1456VQH-T (Lucent Venus Voice Modem) a 
hardware modem? I bought it expecting so.
It works finewith MS Windows, but I cannot 
set it up under linux. It's not detected. 


Thanks
Romeu F. Jr.
Rio de Janeiro
Brazil



Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-17 Thread David Teague


On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They're making hardware modems that DON'T work under Linux.

What do you mean? Does anyone know what this is about? 

I know about WinModems, all winmodems are certainly hardware
modems, but different from the ones that have intelligence left in,
that don't off load the work to the CPU to save fifty cents in
chips, and don't require a propriatary driver that are also hardware.

I thought the usage here was hardware modem meant modems that
don't off load to the CPU and don't require a propriatary driver, so
either already work under Linux or can be made to do so by some good
soul writing a drivers?

What does he mean hardware modem that don't work under Linux? I
HOPE that is an oxymoron, but given the rapacity of some companies,
I fear the worst.

I would normally edit the message in a reply, but someone may be
able to decipher what these folks are talking about for me from the
stuff I left in.

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.


 
 - Repassado por Romeu Freitas Flores Junior/RJ/Petrobras em 17/08/00
 11:49 -
   
  
 Romeu 
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  
 m.brcc:  
  
  Assunto: En: E0008224/Lucent 
 Venus
 16/08/00 Voice Modem  
  
 23:22 
  
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:50 AM
 Subject: FW: E0008224/Lucent Venus Voice Modem
 
 
 -- ???e?? support/askey_notes ?? 2000/08/15 11:49 AM
 ---
 
 
 kain
 2000/08/14 03:31 PM
 
 ?H?G  support/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ???e?G
 ?D???G FW: E0008224/Lucent Venus Voice Modem
 
 Dear Sir
  This modem is hardware modem
  But we not have set com port tool for linux
 
 Regards
 Askey Technical Support
 
 
 Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?? 2000/08/10 06:56:39 AM
 ???^?? ?? Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ?H?Gsupport/askey_notes
 ???e?G
 ?D???G  Lucent Venus Voice Modem
 
 
 
 Is FCC H8NV 1456VQH-T (Lucent Venus Voice Modem) a hardware modem? I bought
 it expecting so.
 It works fine with MS Windows, but I cannot set it up  under linux. It's
 not detected.
 
 
 Thanks
 Romeu F. Jr.
 Rio de Janeiro
 Brazil
 
  - att-1.htm
 
 (See attached file: att-1.htm)
 
 
 




Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-17 Thread romeu

I used to think that way, to.
But, according to the reply they gave me (with an English even worse than
mine), they did it !!! Our modem is a hardware modem, but it has not
direct access to the COM port, so it will not work under weird operating
systems, or something like that. Actually, the modem runs well under
windows, reaching the capacity of 115 Kbps (at least, windows say that).
Take a look at their DOS readme section:

For WINDOWS 3.1 or DOS 6.X users:
  Because you need to tell modem what resource is available on
  your system, you need to run CONFIGP.EXE first.
  For example:

 To set modem on com2 use: CONFIGP /i3 /0x2F8

 To inquire usage:  CONFIGP /?

-

I think this CONFIGP is a TSR that makes the connection between the
(hardware!!!) modem and the COM port.

Isn't great? I spent a lot of money ($150) buying a hardware modem that
cannot work under linux.

I think that writing a driver for it is painless than doing so for
winmodems.

By the way, what does oxymoron mean?






 
David Teague
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
s.wcu.edu cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
 
   Assunto: Re: Hardware Modems 
 
17/08/00 14:43  
 

 

 





On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They're making hardware modems that DON'T work under Linux.

What do you mean? Does anyone know what this is about?

I know about WinModems, all winmodems are certainly hardware
modems, but different from the ones that have intelligence left in,
that don't off load the work to the CPU to save fifty cents in
chips, and don't require a propriatary driver that are also hardware.

I thought the usage here was hardware modem meant modems that
don't off load to the CPU and don't require a propriatary driver, so
either already work under Linux or can be made to do so by some good
soul writing a drivers?

What does he mean hardware modem that don't work under Linux? I
HOPE that is an oxymoron, but given the rapacity of some companies,
I fear the worst.

I would normally edit the message in a reply, but someone may be
able to decipher what these folks are talking about for me from the
stuff I left in.

--David
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 - Repassado por Romeu Freitas Flores Junior/RJ/Petrobras em 17/08/00
 11:49 -


 Romeu

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 m.brcc:

  Assunto: En: E0008224/Lucent
Venus
 16/08/00 Voice Modem

 23:22


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:50 AM
 Subject: FW: E0008224/Lucent Venus Voice Modem


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 kain
 2000/08/14 03:31 PM

 ¦¬¥ó¤H¡G  support/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Dear Sir
  This modem is hardware modem
  But we not have set com port tool for linux

 Regards
 Askey Technical Support


 Romeu [EMAIL PROTECTED] ©ó 2000/08/10 06:56:39 AM
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 Is FCC H8NV 1456VQH-T (Lucent Venus Voice Modem) a hardware modem? I
bought
 it expecting so.
 It works fine with MS Windows, but I cannot set it up  under linux. It's
 not detected.


 Thanks
 Romeu F. Jr.
 Rio de Janeiro
 Brazil

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Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-17 Thread William T Wilson
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 windows, reaching the capacity of 115 Kbps (at least, windows say that).
 Take a look at their DOS readme section:

Windows is lying, most likely :}  It frequently reports the connection
speed between the computer and the modem, rather than between the two
modems.

If the modem can run under DOS, it can almost certainly work under Linux.
The problem of setting a modem to use a particular COM port is different
from the WinModem problem in which the modem does not really use a COM
port at all.

There are a couple of things to try.  First of which is to boot DOS, run
the modem config program, and then load Linux with loadlin.  This will
leave the modem configured, as opposed to a real reboot, which is likely
to erase the modem config.

The second of which is to try to run the modem config program from within
DOSemu.  But for this you need to know all the port addresses used by the
modem so you can give DOSemu direct access to them.

 I think this CONFIGP is a TSR that makes the connection between the
 (hardware!!!) modem and the COM port.

Even if it is a TSR, it may not need to be one.  You can use the DOS mem
command mem /c/p or is it mem /c /p - to enumerate all the TSR's
running in a DOS session.  If it is not in the list produced by mem, it is
not a TSR.  My bet is that it is *not* a TSR - it just programs the modem
registers to use a particular setup and then exits, since it has nothing
else to do.  It would be extremely difficult for a DOS TSR to manage a
modem in the same way that Windows manages a Winmodem.

This sort of program the registers program was very common a few years
ago especially with sound cards, but modems too.  I have no idea why any
modern modem would use such a thing instead of being a Plug  Play modem,
but there you have it :}

If it *is* a plug  play modem, you need to configure it with the PnP
tools - I bet pnpdump can see it.

 Isn't great? I spent a lot of money ($150) buying a hardware modem that
 cannot work under linux.

That is a lot of money for a modem!  Why didn't you get a cheaper one?

In general it is a bad idea to pay any attention to what tech support
tells you.



Re: Hardware Modems

2000-08-17 Thread Robert Waldner
 I think this CONFIGP is a TSR that makes the connection between the
 (hardware!!!) modem and the COM port.

Ungh, let me guess, this is a [pci,isa]-card - modem which *emulates* a 
serial-port to the OS?

In older times you set the the port to emulate via a jumper, nowadays 
it´s most likely some register(s) getting set via the driver, so DOS-
loadlin is definitely worth a try.

If you´re brave enough you could take a look with a debugger at the TSR 
to see which register(s) get set, the rest should be relatively easy, 
IM(*very* humble)O.

rw
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