Having Mozilla Firefox as default web browser

2012-05-14 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi
Following extensive upgrading of 1386 wheezy, I am unable to get
easily Mozilla Firefox as web browser. I have to commad with full path
to its installation.

Iceweasel is unable to treat Google Mail adequately. More importantly,
Iceaweasel is unable to talk in/back with my connections to certain
scientific software.  How to eliminate all web browser to leave
Mozilla Firefox?

thanks

francesco pietra


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Re: Having Mozilla Firefox as default web browser

2012-05-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 May 2012 11:56:08 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:

 Following extensive upgrading of 1386 wheezy, I am unable to get easily
 Mozilla Firefox as web browser. I have to commad with full path to its
 installation.

What's your desktop?

Have you checked with update-alternatives --list x-www-browser?

 Iceweasel is unable to treat Google Mail adequately. 

This is something that can be reported, should the error is consistent 
and fully reproducible.

 More importantly, Iceaweasel is unable to talk in/back with my
 connections to certain scientific software.  

This can be also reported. Iceweasel and Firefox code are almost 
identical.

 How to eliminate all web browser to leave Mozilla Firefox?

I had to remove Icewasel to install Firefox. This can be done from 
Synaptic or the usual package managers (apt, aptitude).

Greetings,

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Re: Having Mozilla Firefox as default web browser

2012-05-14 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-14 17:46 +0200, Camaleón wrote:

 On Mon, 14 May 2012 11:56:08 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:

 Following extensive upgrading of 1386 wheezy, I am unable to get easily
 Mozilla Firefox as web browser. I have to commad with full path to its
 installation.

 What's your desktop?

 Have you checked with update-alternatives --list x-www-browser?

 Iceweasel is unable to treat Google Mail adequately. 

 This is something that can be reported, should the error is consistent 
 and fully reproducible.

AFAIK this is already known, and the problem is not the small difference
between Iceweasel and Firefox, but rather that Google (and several other
sites) have dropped support for Firefox 3.5 which is the base for
Iceweasel in Squeeze.

 More importantly, Iceaweasel is unable to talk in/back with my
 connections to certain scientific software.  

 This can be also reported. Iceweasel and Firefox code are almost 
 identical.

 How to eliminate all web browser to leave Mozilla Firefox?

 I had to remove Icewasel to install Firefox. This can be done from 
 Synaptic or the usual package managers (apt, aptitude).

It is also possible to obtain newer Iceweasel versions from
http://mozilla.debian.net/.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Having Mozilla Firefox as default web browser

2012-05-14 Thread Lisi
On Monday 14 May 2012 16:57:28 Sven Joachim wrote:
  Iceweasel is unable to treat Google Mail adequately.
 
  This is something that can be reported, should the error is consistent
  and fully reproducible.

 AFAIK this is already known, and the problem is not the small difference
 between Iceweasel and Firefox, but rather that Google (and several other
 sites) have dropped support for Firefox 3.5 which is the base for
 Iceweasel in Squeeze.

I have the impression, which may indeed be erroneous, that Google has 
deliberately obsoleted Iceweasel in order to push its users into Chrome or 
chromium.  Though I imagine that it will still play ball with IE.

This happened when they updated/improved Gmail.

Lisi


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Re: Having Mozilla Firefox as default web browser

2012-05-14 Thread Indulekha
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 05:05:28PM +0100, Lisi wrote:
 On Monday 14 May 2012 16:57:28 Sven Joachim wrote:
   Iceweasel is unable to treat Google Mail adequately.
  
   This is something that can be reported, should the error is consistent
   and fully reproducible.
 
  AFAIK this is already known, and the problem is not the small difference
  between Iceweasel and Firefox, but rather that Google (and several other
  sites) have dropped support for Firefox 3.5 which is the base for
  Iceweasel in Squeeze.
 
 I have the impression, which may indeed be erroneous, that Google has 
 deliberately obsoleted Iceweasel in order to push its users into Chrome or 
 chromium.  Though I imagine that it will still play ball with IE.
 
 This happened when they updated/improved Gmail.
 

I also have that impression.
Forunately, it still works just fine with imap via mutt and also 
in elinks and in Opera as well, for those occasions one must access 
gmails settings dialog. Best of all, elinks and Opera don't 
require updating every four minutes to avoid being pwned.
An important factor for those of us with extremely limited bandwidth 

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Re: Having Mozilla Firefox as default web browser

2012-05-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:57:28 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:

 On 2012-05-14 17:46 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
 
 On Mon, 14 May 2012 11:56:08 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:

 Iceweasel is unable to treat Google Mail adequately.

 This is something that can be reported, should the error is consistent
 and fully reproducible.
 
 AFAIK this is already known, and the problem is not the small difference
 between Iceweasel and Firefox, but rather that Google (and several other
 sites) have dropped support for Firefox 3.5 which is the base for
 Iceweasel in Squeeze.

(...)

But (if read it correctly) the OP is running wheezy and thus an updated 
version of Iceweasel :-?

Anyway, with the new Firefox super-fast-and-non-sense update policy I 
find very convenient to keep the upstream version.

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Re: Having Mozilla Firefox as default web browser

2012-05-14 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-14 18:26 +0200, Camaleón wrote:

 On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:57:28 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:

 On 2012-05-14 17:46 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
 
 On Mon, 14 May 2012 11:56:08 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:

 Iceweasel is unable to treat Google Mail adequately.

 This is something that can be reported, should the error is consistent
 and fully reproducible.
 
 AFAIK this is already known, and the problem is not the small difference
 between Iceweasel and Firefox, but rather that Google (and several other
 sites) have dropped support for Firefox 3.5 which is the base for
 Iceweasel in Squeeze.

 (...)

 But (if read it correctly) the OP is running wheezy and thus an updated 
 version of Iceweasel :-?

Oh, indeed.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Having Mozilla Firefox as default web browser

2012-05-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:05:28 +0100
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Lisi,

 I have the impression, which may indeed be erroneous, that Google has 
 deliberately obsoleted Iceweasel in order to push its users into
 Chrome or 

Most organisations are stopping support for older versions of browsers.
FF/IW v3.5 is now ancient;  FF is up to v12 on the Mozilla web site and
in Debian experimental.  Still at v10 in Sid.  Anyhow, to be fair to
google, FF v4 is still supported.

It's impossible to support all features people seem to want in early
versions of FF.

 chromium.  Though I imagine that it will still play ball with IE.

Even IE can't handle some of the stuff gmail can do.  Google say that
In general, Gmail supports the current and prior major release of
Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer and Safari on a rolling basis.

Look at http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=6557 for a 
full description of what's supported.

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