Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 21:03:21 +0200, Nicolas George wrote:

 Le sextidi 6 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Erwan David a écrit :
  I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp
 
 Both work, and dd will give terrible performance without extra options.

What advice do you intend suggest including in

  https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Robert Crawford
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 21:03:21 +0200, Nicolas George wrote:

  Le sextidi 6 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Erwan David a écrit :
   I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp
 
  Both work, and dd will give terrible performance without extra options.

 What advice do you intend suggest including in

   https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/

 ​ I have a Dell GX280, It has no problem with booting from usb. You might
 need to change boot order in bios.

 Robert​

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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 20:59:12 +0200, Erwan David wrote:

 Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :
  On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:
  Hi,
  I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
  saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still
  has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to
  Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I
  mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can
  see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it
  asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not
  formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to
  install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I
  saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that
  wouldn't work either.
 
  I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
  on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6
 
  tx in advance
 
  If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from
  USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files
  bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a
  partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the
  .iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe
  out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important
  on it.
 
 
 
 I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp

From

  https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en

   cp debian.iso /dev/sdX

cat can also be used.

We have no idea how the OP wrote the ISO. If we knew that we might know
where the problem lies.


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 6 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Erwan David a écrit :
 I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp

Both work, and dd will give terrible performance without extra options.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 15:05:59 -0400, Whit Hansell wrote:

 On 07/24/2015 02:55 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
 On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:
 Hi,
 I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
 saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it
 still has the same problem. The problem is when the installer
 gets to Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom
 how can I mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It
 boots and I can see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried
 putting this in when it asks where the cdrom is to no avail.
 please help sorry if this is not formatted well my good keyboard
 is on the machine I'm trying to install debian. I've tried
 installing older versions of debain as I saw someone say that
 the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that wouldn't work
 either.
 
 I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
 on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6
 
 tx in advance
 
 If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing
 from USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso
 files bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device
 (not to a partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as
 /dev/sdd1, cp the .iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition
 number). This will wipe out the entire stick, so make sure you
 don't have anything important on it.
 
 
 Just a thought.  Make sure your cd/dvd is the first item in the boot
 lineup of the BIOS.  IOW, go itno BIOS, go to boot  listing and set
 CD/DVD to the first in line then the HD second or after even the USB
 ports, if in the list.  HTH

This is a good piece of advice. But the only possible reason you think a
CD ROM is involved is because it is mentioned by the installer. Which
does not mean the OP used a CD.

The problem is that the installer doesn't know whether the image is on
a USB stick or a CD. Or, if it does, it doesn't inform the user. In
spite of many advancements in d-i it still deals in terms of CD-ROM.


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Erwan David
Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :
 On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:
 Hi,
 I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
 saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still
 has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to
 Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I
 mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can
 see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it
 asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not
 formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to
 install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I
 saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that
 wouldn't work either.

 I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
 on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

 tx in advance

 If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from
 USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files
 bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a
 partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the
 .iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe
 out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important
 on it.



I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp



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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Whit Hansell



On 07/24/2015 02:55 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people 
saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still 
has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to 
Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I 
mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can 
see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it 
asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not 
formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to 
install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I 
saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that 
wouldn't work either.


I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance


If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from 
USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files 
bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a 
partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the 
.iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe 
out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important 
on it.



Just a thought.  Make sure your cd/dvd is the first item in the boot 
lineup of the BIOS.  IOW, go itno BIOS, go to boot  listing and set 
CD/DVD to the first in line then the HD second or after even the USB 
ports, if in the list.  HTH

Whit


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Gary Dale

On 24/07/15 03:15 PM, Brian wrote:

On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 20:59:12 +0200, Erwan David wrote:


Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :

On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still
has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to
Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I
mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can
see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it
asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not
formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to
install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I
saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that
wouldn't work either.

I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance

If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from
USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files
bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a
partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the
.iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe
out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important
on it.



I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp

From

   https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en

cp debian.iso /dev/sdX

cat can also be used.

We have no idea how the OP wrote the ISO. If we knew that we might know
where the problem lies.


No, but I've seen the problem crop up before. I haven't seen it recently 
but remember it from the days before you could boot from a usb stick.



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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Gary Dale

On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people 
saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still has 
the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to Detect and 
mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I mount my cdrom 
and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can see the drive in 
/dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it asks where the 
cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not formatted well 
my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to install debian. I've 
tried installing older versions of debain as I saw someone say that 
the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that wouldn't work either.


I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance


If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from 
USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files 
bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a 
partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the 
.iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe out 
the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important on it.



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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Gary Dale

On 24/07/15 03:21 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 24/07/15 03:15 PM, Brian wrote:

On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 20:59:12 +0200, Erwan David wrote:


Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :

On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still
has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to
Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I
mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can
see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it
asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not
formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to
install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I
saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that
wouldn't work either.

I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance

If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from
USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files
bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a
partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the
.iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe
out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important
on it.



I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp

From

   https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en

cp debian.iso /dev/sdX

cat can also be used.

We have no idea how the OP wrote the ISO. If we knew that we might know
where the problem lies.


No, but I've seen the problem crop up before. I haven't seen it 
recently but remember it from the days before you could boot from a 
usb stick.
As I recall, the problem was that booting from the CD reader takes place 
in the BIOS while accessing it from Linux needs a driver. If the CD 
reader needs a special driver, you could be in trouble.



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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 15:21:46 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:

 On 24/07/15 03:15 PM, Brian wrote:
 On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 20:59:12 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
 
 Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :
 
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en
 
 cp debian.iso /dev/sdX
 
 cat can also be used.
 
 We have no idea how the OP wrote the ISO. If we knew that we might know
 where the problem lies.
 
 No, but I've seen the problem crop up before. I haven't seen it
 recently but remember it from the days before you could boot from a
 usb stick.

There should be no difference between booting from a correctly written 
CD or USB stick. I would stress correctly written. How the OP went
about it is a crucial bit of information which could be given to us.

I agree the USB situation seems a lot more reliable than the CD one was.


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Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Chris

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people saying 
try the net install I've tried the net install and it still has the same 
problem. The problem is when the installer gets to Detect and mount 
CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I mount my cdrom and tell 
the install where it is. It boots and I can see the drive in 
/dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it asks where the cdrom 
is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not formatted well my good 
keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to install debian. I've tried 
installing older versions of debain as I saw someone say that the newer 
kernel doesn't support dell but that wouldn't work either.


I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance


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