Re: Help again with command man.

2000-08-19 Thread Kerstin Hoef-Emden

Hi,

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, A. Tuazon wrote:

 However, when I was installing the OS via floppies only, shouldn't the
 installation have installed man for me ?  Or do you still have to install
 man after you install the system ?

If you installed from floppies only with no install from CD afterwards
or from internet, you have probably only the base-system installed. So
your computer is running with nothing but the plain OS. Man-db, X11 and
all the other things are still missing.
 
 Therefore, could someone please tell me if there is a way to install man
 via floppies.  I'm using an ancient 486 and it only has a hd and 1.44 floppy
 drive.  I'd appreciate any help and thanks again to all those who replied to
 my previous message.

Hmm, it is hardly possible to do with floppies. The *.debs are not
optimised to fit on a floppy, e.g.  kernel-sources are 12 MB or so
large.  Do you have a possibility to use a modem or get CDs? The problem
is, that with a plain base-install, there is still quite a bunch of
packages missing which are necessary to fulfill dependencies. Usually
you have to install several additional packages to make one package run. 

Regards,

Kerstin


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Re: Help again with command man.

2000-08-19 Thread Gary Lee
Hey guys, i've got the same problem

so, could any one tell me which package contains the man ?

Rgds
KaLeeSan, a new debian


- Original Message -
From: Kerstin Hoef-Emden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: Help again with command man.



 Hi,

 On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, A. Tuazon wrote:

  However, when I was installing the OS via floppies only, shouldn't the
  installation have installed man for me ?  Or do you still have to
install
  man after you install the system ?

 If you installed from floppies only with no install from CD afterwards
 or from internet, you have probably only the base-system installed. So
 your computer is running with nothing but the plain OS. Man-db, X11 and
 all the other things are still missing.

  Therefore, could someone please tell me if there is a way to install
man
  via floppies.  I'm using an ancient 486 and it only has a hd and 1.44
floppy
  drive.  I'd appreciate any help and thanks again to all those who
replied to
  my previous message.

 Hmm, it is hardly possible to do with floppies. The *.debs are not
 optimised to fit on a floppy, e.g.  kernel-sources are 12 MB or so
 large.  Do you have a possibility to use a modem or get CDs? The problem
 is, that with a plain base-install, there is still quite a bunch of
 packages missing which are necessary to fulfill dependencies. Usually
 you have to install several additional packages to make one package run.

 Regards,

 Kerstin


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Re: Help again with command man.

2000-08-19 Thread A. Tuazon
Well I finally solved the man problem.  Thanks to all that replied (esp.
to Paul Smith and Ron Rademaker who gave this newbie some great tips on
commands to use while installing via floppy).   Folks it is possible to
install via floppy but, as the manual does say, it is NOT recommended.  You
have to download man from the debian ftp site or mirror sites, save it onto
floppy, transfer it to the linux machine and then install it.  Aside from
this program, you also need to download and install groff and jgroff
(however, when I installed jgroff, it replaced groff ! ).

I have no choice right now but to use floppies as the machine I'm using for
Debian is an ancient 486 with no cd-rom, no internet capabilities, a
whopping 16 megs of ram, and an astounding 268 megs of hd space =P.  Debian
does run well on it though.  I am using a bw G3 with a high speed
connection to download all the files and so far I've kept my sanity.  The
upswing to all this is I got a chance to actually play around with the
commands on Linux, learn how to install basic packages, and get some new
life into an old machine.  If you want to learn linux via a baptism of fire,
do it the way I did.

thanks again

at




Re: Help again with command man.

2000-08-19 Thread Shaul Karl
Can't you connect the 486 machine to a newer machine via serial or parallel 
cable? Perhaps with Ethernet?


 Well I finally solved the man problem.  Thanks to all that replied (esp.
 to Paul Smith and Ron Rademaker who gave this newbie some great tips on
 commands to use while installing via floppy).   Folks it is possible to
 install via floppy but, as the manual does say, it is NOT recommended.  You
 have to download man from the debian ftp site or mirror sites, save it onto
 floppy, transfer it to the linux machine and then install it.  Aside from
 this program, you also need to download and install groff and jgroff
 (however, when I installed jgroff, it replaced groff ! ).
 
 I have no choice right now but to use floppies as the machine I'm using for
 Debian is an ancient 486 with no cd-rom, no internet capabilities, a
 whopping 16 megs of ram, and an astounding 268 megs of hd space =P.  Debian
 does run well on it though.  I am using a bw G3 with a high speed
 connection to download all the files and so far I've kept my sanity.  The
 upswing to all this is I got a chance to actually play around with the
 commands on Linux, learn how to install basic packages, and get some new
 life into an old machine.  If you want to learn linux via a baptism of fire,
 do it the way I did.
 
 thanks again
 
 at
 
 
 
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Help again with command man.

2000-08-18 Thread A. Tuazon
Well I just found out why I can't use the method : apt-get install man-db
manpages or all the other versions of that string.  The machine running
Debian is NOT connected to the internet.

However, when I was installing the OS via floppies only, shouldn't the
installation have installed man for me ?  Or do you still have to install
man after you install the system ?

Therefore, could someone please tell me if there is a way to install man
via floppies.  I'm using an ancient 486 and it only has a hd and 1.44 floppy
drive.  I'd appreciate any help and thanks again to all those who replied to
my previous message.

Thanks
at 



Re: Help again with command man.

2000-08-18 Thread Ron Rademaker
You should have man, but if you don't you can download the appropiate
package (man-db), just go to a local mirror, or if you don't know any to
ftp.debian.org and download the file man-db_VERSION.deb, get it to your
system and do: dpkg -i man-db_VERSION.deb (of course replace VERSION
by the version of man-db you've downloaded / are going to download).

Ron Rademaker

PS. If you're using tcsh, you should do rehash before you can actually use
man.

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, A. Tuazon wrote:

 Well I just found out why I can't use the method : apt-get install man-db
 manpages or all the other versions of that string.  The machine running
 Debian is NOT connected to the internet.
 
 However, when I was installing the OS via floppies only, shouldn't the
 installation have installed man for me ?  Or do you still have to install
 man after you install the system ?
 
 Therefore, could someone please tell me if there is a way to install man
 via floppies.  I'm using an ancient 486 and it only has a hd and 1.44 floppy
 drive.  I'd appreciate any help and thanks again to all those who replied to
 my previous message.
 
 Thanks
 at 
 
 
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