Re: How Not to Install systemd to Begin With.
On Du, 14 dec 14, 15:49:57, Patrick Bartek wrote: After the lively debate here that replacing systemd after it's installed is not the same as not installing it in the first place: Here's the solution, more or less. Although, it seems, one will never be truly free from parts of systemd in Testing-Jessie. http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_the_Netinst_CD I haven't tested this myself. So, no guarantees. Feels wrong to me. First, it simply removes the systemd package (but not the systemd-sysv package), not sure if debootstrap will handle this gracefully and simply choose to install sysvinit-core instead. Second, if one is going through the trouble of remastering the install CD one might as well patch debootstrap and add a preseed file. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How Not to Install systemd to Begin With.
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 14 dec 14, 15:49:57, Patrick Bartek wrote: After the lively debate here that replacing systemd after it's installed is not the same as not installing it in the first place: Here's the solution, more or less. Although, it seems, one will never be truly free from parts of systemd in Testing-Jessie. http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_the_Netinst_CD I haven't tested this myself. So, no guarantees. Feels wrong to me. First, it simply removes the systemd package (but not the systemd-sysv package), not sure if debootstrap will handle this gracefully and simply choose to install sysvinit-core instead. Second, if one is going through the trouble of remastering the install CD one might as well patch debootstrap and add a preseed file. There also seems to be no mechanism included to prevent systemd from being inadvertently installed later as a dependency. And as long a systemd (or some of its parts) is a dependency, obtaining a totally systemd-free system might be an exercise in futility. But it's a beginning. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141216085020.47389...@debian7.boseck208.net
Re: How Not to Install systemd to Begin With.
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:49:57 -0800 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: After the lively debate here that replacing systemd after it's installed is not the same as not installing it in the first place: Here's the solution, more or less. Although, it seems, one will never be truly free from parts of systemd in Testing-Jessie. http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_the_Netinst_CD I haven't tested this myself. So, no guarantees. B What to do with sections config-deb, config-rel, config-udeb? -- http://markorandjelovic.hopto.org One should not be afraid of humans. Well, I am not afraid of humans, but of what is inhuman in them. Ivo Andric, Signs near the travel-road -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215124313.597ff...@eunet.rs
Re: How Not to Install systemd to Begin With.
Hi. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:43:13PM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:49:57 -0800 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: After the lively debate here that replacing systemd after it's installed is not the same as not installing it in the first place: Here's the solution, more or less. Although, it seems, one will never be truly free from parts of systemd in Testing-Jessie. http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_the_Netinst_CD I haven't tested this myself. So, no guarantees. B What to do with sections config-deb, config-rel, config-udeb? Create them as files, use said files by means of invoking update-cdrom.sh. Seems obvious, isn't it? Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215123112.GA15377@x101h
How Not to Install systemd to Begin With.
After the lively debate here that replacing systemd after it's installed is not the same as not installing it in the first place: Here's the solution, more or less. Although, it seems, one will never be truly free from parts of systemd in Testing-Jessie. http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_the_Netinst_CD I haven't tested this myself. So, no guarantees. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214154957.31850...@debian7.boseck208.net
