Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-07-06 Thread Aniruddha
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Robert S
robert.spam.me.sensel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the entire
 system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so
 Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out
 before it completes the backup.

 Are there any suggestions?  A simple script would be nice.


What do you want to backup? How much time do you have to restore the
backup? Is it a server that needs to be up and running within minutes?
Or do you have a few hours to restore the server? I usually use a
combination of  rsnapshot, mysqldump and an offsite backup program
such as CrashPlan.


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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-21 Thread Robert S
I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the 
entire system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor 
(so Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually 
bails out before it completes the backup.


And what does mondoarchive.log say?


Calling MINDI to create boot+data disks
Your boot loader is GRUB and it boots from /dev/sda
/var/tmp/mondo-temp/tmp.mondo.9418/tmp.mondo.8981

The log gets this far then nothing happens:

# tail /var/log/mondo-archive.log
You are using Mindi-Linux v2.2.0-r881 to make boot+data disks
Analyzing dependency requirements   Done.
Making complete dependency list 100% 
|cp: cannot stat `/usr/games/petris': No such file or directory

Cannot find /usr/games/petris. You will not
be able to play petris during restore.
Done.
Analyzing your keyboard's configuration.

Adding the following keyboard mapping tables:   Done.
Dropping i686-optimized libraries if appropriate.

I am running mondoarchive with the following options:

mondoarchive -OiF -k /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 -d 
/var/tmp/mondoarchive -S /var/tmp/mondo-scratch -T /var/tmp/mondo-temp -E 
/home /mnt /root/packages /var/cache/apt/archives




I don't know what version that is: I run Mindi v2.0.7.2-r2575 and Mondo 
Archive v2.2.9.3-r2622.

If I were in your situation I would download the latest from upstream:
http://mondorescue.muskokamug.org/debian/5.0/
because Debian is backleveled, do it again, and then save my mondoarchive 
+ mindi logs in their entirety and post the error and the logs on the 
mondo forum where the response is excellent:

mondo-de...@lists.sourceforge.net
and also post what you posted here: your calling parameters, and see what 
Bruno Cornec says, he is the lead developer and on top of things.




The latest version seems to work from the upstream site.  I did a restore on 
a vmware virtual machine and it died during bootup.  I didn't have any 
problems using an older version of vmware.


I managed to back my system up successfully using a combination of 
backupninja and genisoimage.  A much cruder but more straightforward 
approach. 




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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Robert S wrote:
I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the 
entire system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor 
(so Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually 
bails out before it completes the backup.


And what does mondoarchive.log say?



mondoarchive gets up to here then nothing happens (for several hours):

---evalcall---E---
---evalcall---1---  Dividing filelist into sets
---evalcall---2--- TASK:  []  97% done;  0:01 to go
---evalcall---E---
---evalcall---1---  Dividing filelist into sets
---evalcall---2--- TASK:  []  98% done;  0:01 to go
---evalcall---E---
Your backup will occupy one mellion media! (maybe 10)
Done.
Copying Mondo's core files to the scratch directory
Done.
Calling MINDI to create boot+data disks
Your boot loader is GRUB and it boots from /dev/sda
/var/tmp/mondo-temp/tmp.mondo.9418/tmp.mondo.8981

The log gets this far then nothing happens:

# tail /var/log/mondo-archive.log
You are using Mindi-Linux v2.2.0-r881 to make boot+data disks
Analyzing dependency requirements   Done.
Making complete dependency list 100%|cp: 
cannot stat `/usr/games/petris': No such file or directory

Cannot find /usr/games/petris. You will not
be able to play petris during restore.
Done.
Analyzing your keyboard's configuration.

Adding the following keyboard mapping tables:   Done.
Dropping i686-optimized libraries if appropriate.

I am running mondoarchive with the following options:

mondoarchive -OiF -k /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 -d /var/tmp/mondoarchive -S 
/var/tmp/mondo-scratch -T /var/tmp/mondo-temp -E /home /mnt /root/packages 
/var/cache/apt/archives


I get the same result when I run it without the -k option 



I don't know what version that is: I run Mindi v2.0.7.2-r2575 and Mondo 
Archive v2.2.9.3-r2622.

If I were in your situation I would download the latest from upstream:
http://mondorescue.muskokamug.org/debian/5.0/
because Debian is backleveled, do it again, and then save my 
mondoarchive + mindi logs in their entirety and post the error and the 
logs on the mondo forum where the response is excellent:

mondo-de...@lists.sourceforge.net
and also post what you posted here: your calling parameters, and see 
what Bruno Cornec says, he is the lead developer and on top of things.


Hugo





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How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-18 Thread Robert S
I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the entire 
system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so 
Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out 
before it completes the backup.

Are there any suggestions?  A simple script would be nice. 




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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-18 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello,

have you given a try to backup2l ?

hth,
Jerome

On 18/06/10 20:43, Robert S wrote:

I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the entire
system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so
Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out
before it completes the backup.

Are there any suggestions?  A simple script would be nice.






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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/18/2010 07:43 AM, Robert S wrote:

I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the entire
system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so
Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out
before it completes the backup.



Could you shut down the relevant services and *then* back up your data?


Are there any suggestions?  A simple script would be nice.



*Simple* script?  No.  We can give you some pointers, though.

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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-18 Thread Robert Brockway

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Robert S wrote:


I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the entire
system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so
Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out
before it completes the backup.



Hi Robert.  If you're using the XFS filesystem then xfsdump is guaranteed 
to provide consistent backups even if used on a read-write mounted 
filesystem.  This has been confirmed by the developers several times in 
public and is consistent with my own DR tests.


If you're using another filesystem then you could consider using LVM 
snapshots.


Quite a lot of backup utils are LVM snapshot aware and can use this 
feature if available.



Are there any suggestions?  A simple script would be nice.


I use custom backup scripts in a lot of places.  I suppose they would be 
described as fairly complex.


The backup server sshes to the server to be backed up, executes the backup 
command (xfsdump, tar, whatever) and streams the data over the network via 
STDOUT.  On the other end of the link the data is captured and written to 
the filesystem as a backup.  Backups of Unix filesystems have been done 
this way for decades (using rsh rather than ssh in the old days of 
course).


I go in to a little more detail about this in my backup talk:

http://www.timetraveller.org/talks/backup_talk.pdf

Cheers,

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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-18 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 22:43:56 +1000, Robert S wrote:

 I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the
 entire system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor
 (so Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually
 bails out before it completes the backup.
 
 Are there any suggestions?  A simple script would be nice.

Mmm, it seems that someone somewhere has wondered the same as you:

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http://serverfault.com/questions/80205/clone-a-working-linux-server
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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Robert S wrote:
I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the entire 
system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so 
Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out 
before it completes the backup.



And what does mondoarchive.log say?

Hugo




Are there any suggestions?  A simple script would be nice. 








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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-18 Thread Niles Ingalls


On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Robert S wrote:

I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the  
entire

system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so
Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually  
bails out

before it completes the backup.

Are there any suggestions?  A simple script would be nice.


Not open source but free, I use the vmware converter to clone live  
Linux boxes to ESXi.

I've had no problems with both Debian and Slackware. - Niles


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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-18 Thread Robert S
 I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the 
 entire system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor 
 (so Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually 
 bails out before it completes the backup.


 And what does mondoarchive.log say?


mondoarchive gets up to here then nothing happens (for several hours):

---evalcall---E---
---evalcall---1---  Dividing filelist into sets
---evalcall---2--- TASK:  []  97% done;  0:01 to go
---evalcall---E---
---evalcall---1---  Dividing filelist into sets
---evalcall---2--- TASK:  []  98% done;  0:01 to go
---evalcall---E---
Your backup will occupy one mellion media! (maybe 10)
Done.
Copying Mondo's core files to the scratch directory
Done.
Calling MINDI to create boot+data disks
Your boot loader is GRUB and it boots from /dev/sda
/var/tmp/mondo-temp/tmp.mondo.9418/tmp.mondo.8981

The log gets this far then nothing happens:

# tail /var/log/mondo-archive.log
You are using Mindi-Linux v2.2.0-r881 to make boot+data disks
Analyzing dependency requirements   Done.
Making complete dependency list 100%|cp: 
cannot stat `/usr/games/petris': No such file or directory
Cannot find /usr/games/petris. You will not
be able to play petris during restore.
Done.
Analyzing your keyboard's configuration.

Adding the following keyboard mapping tables:   Done.
Dropping i686-optimized libraries if appropriate.

I am running mondoarchive with the following options:

mondoarchive -OiF -k /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 -d /var/tmp/mondoarchive -S 
/var/tmp/mondo-scratch -T /var/tmp/mondo-temp -E /home /mnt /root/packages 
/var/cache/apt/archives

I get the same result when I run it without the -k option 




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