Re: How do I get off the list??
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:34:45 -0400 Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eileen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hi, I have tried for 2 weeks to ge off this list. As you can see, from I continue to see people having this problem. Why? Probably because they're not using Debian ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get off the list??
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:22:11PM -0400, Jason Healy wrote: | At 1018974885s since epoch (04/16/02 11:34:45 -0400 UTC), Wayne Topa wrote: | I continue to see people having this problem. Why? | This is 'not' Rocket Science. | | I've been using linux and mailing lists for 8 years now, so I consider | myself in the 'able-to-handle-things-that-are-not-rocket-science' | category. | | However, just last week, I tried several times to subscribe to this | listserver (I had unsubscribed to change addresses). After 3 | attempts, still no luck (my subscription confirmations would never be | answered). I finally had to write to listmaster to get myself added | manually (which worked -- I'm back on the list now). | | So I do think that something is up with the list; it's not just people | who can't follow directions. You are right, but that doesn't account for people sending their requests to the list itself. I had some difficulty re-subscribing my adddress after it was booted due to system downtime. (my mail handlers were down for almost a week) At first I was able to resubscribe, then I would be promptly unsubscribed! I eventually used a different address to subscribe, and stopped that problem, though I expect it would have gone away over time. In addition, sometimes I never got the confirmation mail, or it would take hours to receive it. Perseverence wins, though, not sending requests to the list or whining on the list. -D -- The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to advice. Proverbs 12:15 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get off the list??
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 02:53 pm, Noah Meyerhans wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:34:45AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: I have tried for 2 weeks to ge off this list. As you can see, from I continue to see people having this problem. Why? Part of the problem seems to be that the listmanager software does not behave correctly all the time. I've seen several situation in which the user did follow the correct steps but was not unsubscribed. I have also seen cases where it works the first time. In any case, it's definitely not always the user's fault. apparently, debian-german users are having similar problems, which suggests that the debian list management in general is, and has been for quite a while, a tad disfunctional. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get off the list??
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 03:22 pm, Jason Healy wrote: At 1018974885s since epoch (04/16/02 11:34:45 -0400 UTC), Wayne Topa wrote: I continue to see people having this problem. Why? This is 'not' Rocket Science. I've been using linux and mailing lists for 8 years now, so I consider myself in the 'able-to-handle-things-that-are-not-rocket-science' category. However, just last week, I tried several times to subscribe to this listserver (I had unsubscribed to change addresses). After 3 attempts, still no luck (my subscription confirmations would never be answered). I finally had to write to listmaster to get myself added manually (which worked -- I'm back on the list now). So I do think that something is up with the list; it's not just people who can't follow directions. ditto. see my previous post. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get off the list??
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 04:37 pm, csj wrote: On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:34:45 -0400 Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eileen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hi, I have tried for 2 weeks to ge off this list. As you can see, from I continue to see people having this problem. Why? Probably because they're not using Debian ;-) this makes no sense, at all. check the archives to see how many people are dealing with the same problem. the list management is all too apparently out to lunch, at the moment. please don't try to obfuscate the issue with wholly irrational suggestions. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get off the list??
Eileen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hi, I have tried for 2 weeks to ge off this list. As you can see, from I continue to see people having this problem. Why? I just changed ISP's and was subscribed to a half dozen Debian mailing lists. I went to www.debian.org, went to the mailing list page, and while logged into my old ISP cancelled all of my subscriptions. I replied to the Confirm Cancellation notices, while logged into my OLD ISP, and within hours, all were cancelled. I then re-subscribed while logged into my new ISP and am now getting all mail at the new address. This is 'not' Rocket Science. -- The Softwære said Windows 95 or better, so I dumped Win95 loaded LINUX. I have not looked back since. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get off the list??
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:34:45AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: I have tried for 2 weeks to ge off this list. As you can see, from I continue to see people having this problem. Why? Part of the problem seems to be that the listmanager software does not behave correctly all the time. I've seen several situation in which the user did follow the correct steps but was not unsubscribed. I have also seen cases where it works the first time. In any case, it's definitely not always the user's fault. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpOODXE7KvtJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How do I get off the list??
Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eileen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hi, I have tried for 2 weeks to ge off this list. As you can see, from I continue to see people having this problem. Why? I just changed ISP's and was subscribed to a half dozen Debian mailing lists. I went to www.debian.org, went to the mailing list page, and while logged into my old ISP cancelled all of my subscriptions. I replied to the Confirm Cancellation notices, while logged into my OLD ISP, and within hours, all were cancelled. I then re-subscribed while logged into my new ISP and am now getting all mail at the new address. This is 'not' Rocket Science. Hmm. One data point does not a trend make. I remember back around December I wanted to unsubscribe to keep from spamming the list with bounce messages during our Winter shutdown. I sent the message, got a confirmation and sent it in. No luck. Tried at least 4 times all with the same result. When I told this list about my problem several folks came back with Worked for me. It turns out some parameter had been adjusted at the beginning of the week that was causing unsubscribe confirmations to be ignored. Those who had informed me of their trouble-free experiences were basing it on something they'd done a week or more prior to my attempts. Perhaps something similar is going on now. Perhaps it was fixed before you unsubscribed? Gary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get off the list??
At 1018974885s since epoch (04/16/02 11:34:45 -0400 UTC), Wayne Topa wrote: I continue to see people having this problem. Why? This is 'not' Rocket Science. I've been using linux and mailing lists for 8 years now, so I consider myself in the 'able-to-handle-things-that-are-not-rocket-science' category. However, just last week, I tried several times to subscribe to this listserver (I had unsubscribed to change addresses). After 3 attempts, still no luck (my subscription confirmations would never be answered). I finally had to write to listmaster to get myself added manually (which worked -- I'm back on the list now). So I do think that something is up with the list; it's not just people who can't follow directions. Jason -- Jason Healy http://www.logn.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: How do I get off the list??
begin Eileen quotation: I have tried for 2 weeks to ge off this list. As you can see, from below that I have attempted in the PROPER manner, AND YES BEFORE THE SMART MOUTHS ASK, I did respond!!!. But alas I am still recieveing Did you respond to the right address? Did you preserve the subject line? Did you *NOT* send a gigantic Word document instead of a message body? To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], instead of the list? I just forged a response for you. I bet it works. If not, follow the other part of the instructions above, instead of sending a useless message to the list. The listmaster doesn't necessarily read it, and if he does, he doesn't necessarily read everything. He's a busy man. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong pgpOlwe6lVMqU.pgp Description: PGP signature
How do I get off this list?
Sorry to bother the list with this. But the method for unsubscribing (that came in an email when I subcribed), does not work. How do I unsubscribe? Thanks FDY
Re: How do I get off this list?
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Re: How do I get off this list?
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:02:21AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to bother the list with this. But the method for unsubscribing (that came in an email when I subcribed), does not work. How do I unsubscribe? Thanks FDY You will have to Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] if the conventional methods don't work. You didn't describe what was happening when you did try to unsubscribe so it is a little hard to help there. Are you unsubscribing from the same address as you subscribed? That could be one possibility. A short time ago there were many people having trouble unsubscribing but I thought the problem had been resolved. kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: How do I get off this list?
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:02:21AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Sorry to bother the list with this. But the method for unsubscribing (that came :in an email when I subcribed), does not work. How do I unsubscribe? :Thanks :FDY You can also try http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe I've never used that method the, regular method (subject unsubscribe to debian-whatever[EMAIL PROTECTED]) has always worked for me on debian lists. Infact I once accidently unsubscribe as at the time the regular list (without the -request) was also setup to catch unsubscribes because of the volume of people sending to the wrong address :) -Jon
Re: How do I get off this list?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to bother the list with this. But the method for unsubscribing (that came in an email when I subcribed), does not work. How do I unsubscribe? When people have difficulties unsubscribing from the lists, most of the time it is caused by a mismatch between the address they used to subscribe to the list, and the address they're using when trying to unsubscribe. You can figure out the exact email address that is subscribed to the list by looking at the Return-Path header that comes with each mail you receive from the Debian mailinglist server. An example Return-Path header: Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this case, the address used to subscribe to the debian-user list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (so you have to replace the second `equals' sign with an `at' sign to get the email address). If you send mail _from_that_account_ to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the body of the message, it will unsubscribe you automatically (in most cases - sometimes other errors occur preventing automatic unsubscription, if you need help in that case contact listmaster). cheers, Remco (who has the infamous [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat)
