Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-03 Thread debian-user
Andy Smith  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 12:17:36AM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 02, 2023 at 06:49:07PM -0400, hobie of RMN wrote:  
> > > Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to keep an eye
> > > on his incoming e-mail for him.  Mostly I use Mutt; he uses
> > > claws-mail exclusively, so I'll need to remotely launch
> > > claws-mail and have it retrieve latest e-mails.  
> > 
> > Claws-mail stores mail in the MH mailbox format. Mutt can handle MH
> > mailboxes.  
> 
> I'd probably go a step further and rsync those MH folders to my
> machine; that way I could use whatever mail program I liked locally
> without fear of affecting the other machine or the pristine copy of
> its email.

There's no point in just looking at Claw's MH folder. It contains the
mail that has already been received. I imagine the brother wants to
access new mail that arrives. Depending how his system is set up that
may involve starting Claws and pushing the 'Get Mail' button on the
toolbar.

As David asks, why not just access the mail on the provider's website?
Easier than fighting with a broken computer system.



Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-03 Thread john doe

On 7/3/23 00:49, hobie of RMN wrote:

Hi, All -

I need the best way currently available to operate my brother's computer
in the next room through my computer.  I think we're both running Debian
11, the stable version for me, the testing version for him.  I've tried
ssh -X.  It does work but only for a short time, then the connection
crumbles - his computer has often locked up on him and we have no idea
why, so the 'short time' aspect of the -X approach may relate to that.

The point is, he's been away from home for awhile now and we're not sure
when he'll return. Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to keep
an eye on his incoming e-mail for him.  Mostly I use Mutt; he uses
claws-mail exclusively, so I'll need to remotely launch claws-mail and
have it retrieve latest e-mails.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.



While all ideas in this thread are great suggestions, I would go the
easy way out and simply look up the e-mails on the working set up!

Looks like you have a unstable remote connection, troubleshooting that
kind of issues takes time! :)

--
John Doe



Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-02 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 12:17:36AM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2023 at 06:49:07PM -0400, hobie of RMN wrote:
> > Hi, All -
> > 
> > I need the best way currently available to operate my brother's computer
> > in the next room through my computer [...]

> Claws-mail stores mail in the MH mailbox format. Mutt can handle MH mailboxes.
> Why not use mutt via ssh on his machine, for most messages you do not need to
> use X (ie graphics), this might mean that the connection is more robust.

If you are comfortable with mutt, I'd first try exactly this. Install mutt
on your brother's computer and run it over ssh without X (perhaps things are
stable then).

Unfortunately it's difficult to know what's going wrong when the connection
"crumbles". It may be related to X, but then it may not. More debugging
would be necessary.

Cheers
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Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-02 Thread David
On Sun, 2023-07-02 at 22:18 -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On 7/2/23 18:49, hobie of RMN wrote:
> > Hi, All -
> > 
> > I need the best way currently available to operate my brother's
> > computer
> > in the next room through my computer.  I think we're both running
> > Debian
> > 11, the stable version for me, the testing version for him.  I've
> > tried
> > ssh -X.  It does work but only for a short time, then the
> > connection
> > crumbles - his computer has often locked up on him and we have no
> > idea
> > why, so the 'short time' aspect of the -X approach may relate to
> > that.
> > 
> > The point is, he's been away from home for awhile now and we're not
> > sure
> > when he'll return. Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way
> > to keep
> > an eye on his incoming e-mail for him.  Mostly I use Mutt; he uses
> > claws-mail exclusively, so I'll need to remotely launch claws-mail
> > and
> > have it retrieve latest e-mails.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Why doesn't he just access his email off his provider's server?
Why doesn't he have access to that?
Cheers!

-- 
A Kiwi in Australia,
doing my bit toward raising the national standard.



Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-02 Thread Carl Fink

On 7/2/23 18:49, hobie of RMN wrote:

Hi, All -

I need the best way currently available to operate my brother's computer
in the next room through my computer.  I think we're both running Debian
11, the stable version for me, the testing version for him.  I've tried
ssh -X.  It does work but only for a short time, then the connection
crumbles - his computer has often locked up on him and we have no idea
why, so the 'short time' aspect of the -X approach may relate to that.

The point is, he's been away from home for awhile now and we're not sure
when he'll return. Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to keep
an eye on his incoming e-mail for him.  Mostly I use Mutt; he uses
claws-mail exclusively, so I'll need to remotely launch claws-mail and
have it retrieve latest e-mails.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.


Surely it would be easier, if you have his mail password, to just set up 
claws-mail on your
own system and download the mail there? I mean, clearly your brother 
trusts you with
his email, and this way you wouldn't have to worry about his box's 
instability.


-Carl Fink



Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi,

On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 12:17:36AM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2023 at 06:49:07PM -0400, hobie of RMN wrote:
> > Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to keep an eye
> > on his incoming e-mail for him.  Mostly I use Mutt; he uses
> > claws-mail exclusively, so I'll need to remotely launch
> > claws-mail and have it retrieve latest e-mails.
> 
> Claws-mail stores mail in the MH mailbox format. Mutt can handle MH mailboxes.

I'd probably go a step further and rsync those MH folders to my
machine; that way I could use whatever mail program I liked locally
without fear of affecting the other machine or the pristine copy of
its email.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-02 Thread Mario Marietto
enable X forwarding on the remote pc and install lxde and then,from your
pc,run :

ssh -Y ip remote lxpanel

Il lun 3 lug 2023, 01:50 Jeffrey Walton  ha scritto:

> On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 6:56 PM hobie of RMN 
> wrote:
> >
> > I need the best way currently available to operate my brother's computer
> > in the next room through my computer.  I think we're both running Debian
> > 11, the stable version for me, the testing version for him.  I've tried
> > ssh -X.  It does work but only for a short time, then the connection
> > crumbles - his computer has often locked up on him and we have no idea
> > why, so the 'short time' aspect of the -X approach may relate to that.
>
> Turn off Suspend under power settings. That is killing your SSH connection.
>
> > The point is, he's been away from home for awhile now and we're not sure
> > when he'll return. Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to
> keep
> > an eye on his incoming e-mail for him.  Mostly I use Mutt; he uses
> > claws-mail exclusively, so I'll need to remotely launch claws-mail and
> > have it retrieve latest e-mails.
>
> Assuming you want a GUI tool, you might try VNC or Xpra.
>
> Jeff
>
>


Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 6:56 PM hobie of RMN  wrote:
>
> I need the best way currently available to operate my brother's computer
> in the next room through my computer.  I think we're both running Debian
> 11, the stable version for me, the testing version for him.  I've tried
> ssh -X.  It does work but only for a short time, then the connection
> crumbles - his computer has often locked up on him and we have no idea
> why, so the 'short time' aspect of the -X approach may relate to that.

Turn off Suspend under power settings. That is killing your SSH connection.

> The point is, he's been away from home for awhile now and we're not sure
> when he'll return. Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to keep
> an eye on his incoming e-mail for him.  Mostly I use Mutt; he uses
> claws-mail exclusively, so I'll need to remotely launch claws-mail and
> have it retrieve latest e-mails.

Assuming you want a GUI tool, you might try VNC or Xpra.

Jeff



Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-02 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Sun, Jul 02, 2023 at 06:49:07PM -0400, hobie of RMN wrote:
> Hi, All -
> 
> I need the best way currently available to operate my brother's computer
> in the next room through my computer.  I think we're both running Debian
> 11, the stable version for me, the testing version for him.  I've tried
> ssh -X.  It does work but only for a short time, then the connection
> crumbles - his computer has often locked up on him and we have no idea
> why, so the 'short time' aspect of the -X approach may relate to that.
> 
> The point is, he's been away from home for awhile now and we're not sure
> when he'll return. Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to keep
> an eye on his incoming e-mail for him.  Mostly I use Mutt; he uses
> claws-mail exclusively, so I'll need to remotely launch claws-mail and
> have it retrieve latest e-mails.

Claws-mail stores mail in the MH mailbox format. Mutt can handle MH mailboxes.
Why not use mutt via ssh on his machine, for most messages you do not need to
use X (ie graphics), this might mean that the connection is more robust.

You would only use graphics for displaying some attachments, eg images.

> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
> 
> --hobie
> 

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How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-02 Thread hobie of RMN
Hi, All -

I need the best way currently available to operate my brother's computer
in the next room through my computer.  I think we're both running Debian
11, the stable version for me, the testing version for him.  I've tried
ssh -X.  It does work but only for a short time, then the connection
crumbles - his computer has often locked up on him and we have no idea
why, so the 'short time' aspect of the -X approach may relate to that.

The point is, he's been away from home for awhile now and we're not sure
when he'll return. Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to keep
an eye on his incoming e-mail for him.  Mostly I use Mutt; he uses
claws-mail exclusively, so I'll need to remotely launch claws-mail and
have it retrieve latest e-mails.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

--hobie