Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
On 2009-07-18 19:52 (-0600), l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Huh. Well, I don't know a news server I could use. I googled for some a while ago and was surprised that they now want you to pay for using them. Anyway, I wanted to see how useful it is as a MUA. Gnus is very good with news and mail, in my opinion. If you only need it for reading maildir folders, then I'd use these settings: (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil )) (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnmaildir (directory ~/mAiltesting/Mail/Maildir/ You can put them in your ~/.gnus.el file. When you are in Gnus's *Group* buffer press F to find new groups. It should find your maildirs. Do I need to know some keystrokes to switch to the mail or something? Or somehow import mail into/as newsgroups? In Gnus mail is also like news. They use the same interface and mostly the same terminology. Some things can be confusing first but it's really powerful to use the same interface for both. Why would I need primary and secondary select methods (Whatever select methods are ...)? Select methods basically mean different ways of getting news/mail. I suggest configuring gnus-select-method to '(nnnil ), i.e. nothing, because if you, at some point, add different select methods it's much clearer if there are no two different classes of select methods. Put all methods to gnus-secondary-select-methods. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de writes: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 09:48:36AM +0200, Suno Ano wrote: Lee Hi, How do you read mail, stored in local maildirs, with gnus? I Gnus is by far the biggest Emacs package thus it takes a while to configure things. Maybe, if you take a look at my .emacs which can be found here http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/gnus.html it will help you a bit. Nice page, lots of info --- but how do I get gnus to work? I have no .gnus but instead I have all Gnus and other Emacs settings within .emacs. You have to navigate to the Gnus section. Yeah, you got an endless ~./emacs with a lot things in it. But that doesn't say how to get gnus to work, either. It seems to be fine with the ~/.gnus I created and happily displays an empty buffer, and that's it. BTW, is gnus good for organizing mail? Since it's a news reader, it might not support that at all because you don't organize news. I'm trying to find a MUA that supports organizing mail --- mutt, for example, doesn't; sup solves the problem by abandoning the idea of organizing mail altogether. Maybe I could use it, but it doesn't run stable enough to try it out. I don't want a GUI MUA, and it must support maildir. I want to continue using emacs or xemacs as an editor for mails. It takes a while to get working with it, but I think it is worth it. There is a lot of information starting at the following page: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryGnus -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
On 2009-07-17 22:50 (-0600), l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: how do you read mail, stored in local maildirs, with gnus? I don't see any mail displayed; M-x gnus-no-server shows an empty buffer, though I specified nnmail to access the maildir where the mail is. To list gnus-secondary-select-methods add an item like (nnmaildir (directory ~/Maildir)) So the whole gnus-secondary-select-methods would look something like this: ((nnml ) (nnmaildir (directory ~/Maildir)) (nntp news.gmane.org) (nntp news.whatever.invalid)) I don't use primary select methods so I have set gnus-select-method to this: (gnus-select-method '(nnnil )) There are 5 options you can change, listed in the documentation, but the documentation is unable to tell you how to read mail ... The Gnus manual is probably the worst I have ever seen. User must first learn Gnus quite well by using it and then the manual starts being somewhat useful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
Lee Hi, How do you read mail, stored in local maildirs, with gnus? I Lee don't see any mail displayed; M-x gnus-no-server shows an empty Lee buffer, though I specified nnmail to access the maildir where the Lee mail is. Lee There are 5 options you can change, listed in the Lee documentation, but the documentation is unable to tell you how to Lee read mail ... Gnus is by far the biggest Emacs package thus it takes a while to configure things. Maybe, if you take a look at my .emacs which can be found here http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/gnus.html it will help you a bit. I have no .gnus but instead I have all Gnus and other Emacs settings within .emacs. You have to navigate to the Gnus section. pgpP4IKo6m8n4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 08:55:56AM +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: On 2009-07-17 22:50 (-0600), l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: how do you read mail, stored in local maildirs, with gnus? I don't see any mail displayed; M-x gnus-no-server shows an empty buffer, though I specified nnmail to access the maildir where the mail is. To list gnus-secondary-select-methods add an item like (nnmaildir (directory ~/Maildir)) So the whole gnus-secondary-select-methods would look something like this: ((nnml ) (nnmaildir (directory ~/Maildir)) (nntp news.gmane.org) (nntp news.whatever.invalid)) I don't use primary select methods so I have set gnus-select-method to this: (gnus-select-method '(nnnil )) Huh. Well, I don't know a news server I could use. I googled for some a while ago and was surprised that they now want you to pay for using them. Anyway, I wanted to see how useful it is as a MUA. I didn't have a ~/.gnus, even not after trying to set it up from withing emacs via some customization page. So created I one: (setq gnus-select-method '(nnmaildir email (directory ~/mAiltesting/Mail/Maildir/))) That gives me an empty buffer when starting gnus. Do I need to know some keystrokes to switch to the mail or something? Or somehow import mail into/as newsgroups? Is there a way to get some error messages telling me what's wrong, if there are any? Why would I need primary and secondary select methods (Whatever select methods are ...)? There are 5 options you can change, listed in the documentation, but the documentation is unable to tell you how to read mail ... The Gnus manual is probably the worst I have ever seen. User must first learn Gnus quite well by using it and then the manual starts being somewhat useful. Haha, ok, that's a fine manual then ;) Without mail and news, gnus is not exactly easy to use ... If I could get it to display my mail, I might be able to learn more. Hm, when I copy your ~/.gnus, I'm getting an error when starting gnus: byte-code: Error in ~/.gnus: gnus-select-method When I remove (gnus-select-method '(nnnil )), I'm getting: No gnus is bad news (No changes need to be saved) byte-code: Error in ~/.gnus: (nnml ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 09:48:36AM +0200, Suno Ano wrote: Lee Hi, How do you read mail, stored in local maildirs, with gnus? I Gnus is by far the biggest Emacs package thus it takes a while to configure things. Maybe, if you take a look at my .emacs which can be found here http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/gnus.html it will help you a bit. Nice page, lots of info --- but how do I get gnus to work? I have no .gnus but instead I have all Gnus and other Emacs settings within .emacs. You have to navigate to the Gnus section. Yeah, you got an endless ~./emacs with a lot things in it. But that doesn't say how to get gnus to work, either. It seems to be fine with the ~/.gnus I created and happily displays an empty buffer, and that's it. BTW, is gnus good for organizing mail? Since it's a news reader, it might not support that at all because you don't organize news. I'm trying to find a MUA that supports organizing mail --- mutt, for example, doesn't; sup solves the problem by abandoning the idea of organizing mail altogether. Maybe I could use it, but it doesn't run stable enough to try it out. I don't want a GUI MUA, and it must support maildir. I want to continue using emacs or xemacs as an editor for mails. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:22:00PM EDT, lee wrote: [..] BTW, is gnus good for organizing mail? Since it's a news reader, it might not support that at all because you don't organize news. I'm trying to find a MUA that supports organizing mail --- mutt, for example, doesn't; What do you mean by organizing mail..? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 07:33 +0200, Suno Ano wrote: Yes, because it does not have any info to display yet. lee Btw, is gnus good for organizing mail? Since it's a news reader, lee it might not support that at all because you don't organize news. lee I'm trying to find a MUA that supports organizing mail --- mutt, lee for example, doesn't; sup solves the problem by abandoning the lee idea of organizing mail altogether. Maybe I could use it, but it lee doesn't run stable enough to try it out. I don't want a GUI MUA, lee and it must support maildir. I want to continue using emacs or lee xemacs as an editor for mails. If by organizing you mean sieve, scoring, grouping and things like that, then yes, Gnus is very good for organizing mail. That can't be because the OP claims that mutt isn't able to organize mail. I'm using a mutt/procmail combination mainly because I want to access my mail in the usual way even when away from home via dialin. my 2ยข Siggy -- Please don't cc: me when replying on the list. bsb-at-psycho-dot-informationsanarchistik-dot-de or:bsb-at-psycho-dot-i21k-dot-de signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How do you read mail with gnus?
lee Yeah, you got an endless ~./emacs with a lot things in it. But lee that doesn't say how to get gnus to work, either. You have to start with Gnus-select-method and nnmaildir (imap) and nntp (news). See examples in my .emacs and/or manual. lee It seems to be fine with the ~/.gnus I created and happily lee displays an empty buffer, and that's it. Yes, because it does not have any info to display yet. lee Btw, is gnus good for organizing mail? Since it's a news reader, lee it might not support that at all because you don't organize news. lee I'm trying to find a MUA that supports organizing mail --- mutt, lee for example, doesn't; sup solves the problem by abandoning the lee idea of organizing mail altogether. Maybe I could use it, but it lee doesn't run stable enough to try it out. I don't want a GUI MUA, lee and it must support maildir. I want to continue using emacs or lee xemacs as an editor for mails. If by organizing you mean sieve, scoring, grouping and things like that, then yes, Gnus is very good for organizing mail. pgp446xnYPn6l.pgp Description: PGP signature
How do you read mail with gnus?
Hi, how do you read mail, stored in local maildirs, with gnus? I don't see any mail displayed; M-x gnus-no-server shows an empty buffer, though I specified nnmail to access the maildir where the mail is. There are 5 options you can change, listed in the documentation, but the documentation is unable to tell you how to read mail ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
