Re: How does apt select and priotize translations?
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:54:53 +0200, Dirk Weinhardt wrote: I am about to install a particular package from wheezy on a squeeze system. Packages from wheezy should be pinned to a priority of 50. While configuring and testing apt I found that apt searches for German translations although the system's locale is en_US.utf8 and pinning priorities seem not to be applied to translations. I have added wheezy main to sources.list: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy main And I have assigned a pin priority of 50 to testing in apt's preferences: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 50 The system's local initially was de_DE and I have changed that to en_US.utf8 by running dpkg-reconfigure locales. locale shows LANG=en_US.utf8 and locale -a does not list any de locale. Why is apt still querying German translations and how can that be avoided? (...) Mmm, interesting question. I have es (Spanish) and en (English) locales in my wheezy system and get sporadic updates for both -sometimes Spanish, sometimes English and sometimes for both- package descriptions but true is that I never paid attention on this because I guess it only affects to descriptions not the packages nor application themselves :-? Anyway, I would also like to know how this is managed, I mean, if language package descriptions updates depend on the number of locale(s) defined in the system or if it takes their settings from another source. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.01.14.12...@gmail.com
Re: How does apt select and priotize translations?
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 02:12:26PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:54:53 +0200, Dirk Weinhardt wrote: I am about to install a particular package from wheezy on a squeeze system. Packages from wheezy should be pinned to a priority of 50. While configuring and testing apt I found that apt searches for German translations although the system's locale is en_US.utf8 and pinning priorities seem not to be applied to translations. I have added wheezy main to sources.list: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy main And I have assigned a pin priority of 50 to testing in apt's preferences: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 50 The system's local initially was de_DE and I have changed that to en_US.utf8 by running dpkg-reconfigure locales. locale shows LANG=en_US.utf8 and locale -a does not list any de locale. Why is apt still querying German translations and how can that be avoided? (...) Mmm, interesting question. I have es (Spanish) and en (English) locales in my wheezy system and get sporadic updates for both -sometimes Spanish, sometimes English and sometimes for both- package descriptions but true is that I never paid attention on this because I guess it only affects to descriptions not the packages nor application themselves :-? Anyway, I would also like to know how this is managed, I mean, if language package descriptions updates depend on the number of locale(s) defined in the system or if it takes their settings from another source. According to 'man apt.conf', Acquire::Languages can be set to declare which translations one wants downloading. The pseudo-language environment (which is part of the default setting) specifies that apt should check $LC_MESSAGES. However, if this doesn't include a de language, then it might actually be that Acquire::Languages was set at install time. Check /etc/apt/apt-conf.d/* for Acquire::Languages. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.01.14.12...@gmail.com -- Darac Marjal signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How does apt select and priotize translations?
On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:29:49 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 02:12:26PM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:54:53 +0200, Dirk Weinhardt wrote: (...) Why is apt still querying German translations and how can that be avoided? (...) Mmm, interesting question. I have es (Spanish) and en (English) locales in my wheezy system and get sporadic updates for both -sometimes Spanish, sometimes English and sometimes for both- package descriptions but true is that I never paid attention on this because I guess it only affects to descriptions not the packages nor application themselves :-? Anyway, I would also like to know how this is managed, I mean, if language package descriptions updates depend on the number of locale(s) defined in the system or if it takes their settings from another source. According to 'man apt.conf', Acquire::Languages can be set to declare which translations one wants downloading. The pseudo-language environment (which is part of the default setting) specifies that apt should check $LC_MESSAGES. However, if this doesn't include a de language, then it might actually be that Acquire::Languages was set at install time. Check /etc/apt/apt-conf.d/* for Acquire::Languages. Thanks much for the detailed explanation :-) In lenny -which I run in my main computer- man apt.conf does not contain the language section (or I have badly bypassed it...). Good to know where this setting comes from and how to tweak it. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.01.15.34...@gmail.com
Re: How does apt select and priotize translations?
According to 'man apt.conf', Acquire::Languages can be set to declare
which translations one wants downloading. The pseudo-language
environment (which is part of the default setting) specifies that apt
should check $LC_MESSAGES. However, if this doesn't include a de
language, then it might actually be that Acquire::Languages was set at
install time.
Thank you for pointing me to the apt.conf man page. Even after reading
through the Languages section I cannot make sense of apt-get's behavior.
Check /etc/apt/apt-conf.d/* for Acquire::Languages.
Acquire::Languages is not set in any file in /etc/apt/apt-conf.d. I
added the following line to /etc/apt/apt-conf.d/70debconf and re-ran
apt-get update:
Acquire::Languages { en };
But apt-get still is querying German translations. Passing -o
Acquire::Languages=en to apt-get update does not change the behavior
either.
locale output:
LANG=en_US.utf8
LANGUAGE=en_US.utf8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf8
LC_TIME=en_US.utf8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.utf8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.utf8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8
LC_PAPER=en_US.utf8
LC_NAME=en_US.utf8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.utf8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.utf8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.utf8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.utf8
LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
Finally I noticed that /var/lib/apt/lists contained a few files with
names ending with Translation-de. After removing this folder apt-get
update does not query any translations any longer and also does not
re-create any -de files in /var/lib/apt/lists. Looks like apt-get is
trying to update all lists it ever had cached before.
Cheers, Dirk
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How does apt select and priotize translations?
Hello list, I am about to install a particular package from wheezy on a squeeze system. Packages from wheezy should be pinned to a priority of 50. While configuring and testing apt I found that apt searches for German translations although the system's locale is en_US.utf8 and pinning priorities seem not to be applied to translations. I have added wheezy main to sources.list: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy main And I have assigned a pin priority of 50 to testing in apt's preferences: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 50 The system's local initially was de_DE and I have changed that to en_US.utf8 by running dpkg-reconfigure locales. locale shows LANG=en_US.utf8 and locale -a does not list any de locale. Why is apt still querying German translations and how can that be avoided? Furthermore, wheezy translations are assigned a priority of 500. I would expect them to have a priority of 50. apt-cache policy output: Package files: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status release a=now 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main Translation-de 50 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=main origin ftp.debian.org 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates/non-free i386 Packages release o=Debian,a=stable-updates,n=squeeze-updates,l=Debian,c=non-free origin ftp.debian.org [snip] 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main Translation-de 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free i386 Packages release v=6.0.2.1,o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=non-free origin ftp.debian.org 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib i386 Packages release v=6.0.2.1,o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=contrib origin ftp.debian.org 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main i386 Packages release v=6.0.2.1,o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=main origin ftp.debian.org Pinned packages: Or should I not care about this at all since these translations only contain package descriptions? Thanks for your assistance, Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e5a2c8d.7080...@weinhardt.biz
