Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-17 Thread Gavrila
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 03:31, Terence Ng wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have modified /etc/X11/default-display-manager to
> contain /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm
> 
> I have use rcconf to modify /etc/rc?.d
> 
> I have run dpkg --purge gdm
> 
> I have run dpkg-reconfigure -plow xdm
> 
> But startup shows xdm is not the default manager.
> 
> Any idea?
> 
 Haven't u tried update-alternatives --config display-manager? (I'm not
sure it's possible, but I'd say yes :)


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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-16 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 22:29, Lawrence Houston wrote:
> Terence:
> 
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Terence Ng wrote:
> 
> > I have modified /etc/X11/default-display-manager to
> > contain /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm
> 
> Startup Script is actual testing for "/usr/bin/X11/xdm", modify
> /etc/X11/default-display-manager accordingly...
> 
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I found that xdm,gdm and kdm have these lines in common.
-
# To start xdm even if it is not the default display manager, change
# HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER to "false."
HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER=true
DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE=/etc/X11/default-display-manager
---
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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-16 Thread Lawrence Houston
Terence:

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Terence Ng wrote:

> I have modified /etc/X11/default-display-manager to
> contain /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm

Startup Script is actual testing for "/usr/bin/X11/xdm", modify
/etc/X11/default-display-manager accordingly...

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-16 Thread Terence Ng
Hi,

I have modified /etc/X11/default-display-manager to
contain /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm

I have use rcconf to modify /etc/rc?.d

I have run dpkg --purge gdm

I have run dpkg-reconfigure -plow xdm

But startup shows xdm is not the default manager.

Any idea?

 --- Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun
16, 2003 at 06:43:46PM +0200, Mario
> Vukelic wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 12:00, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which xdm
> > > /usr/bin/X11/xdm
> > 
> > And:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/X11
> > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 May 25
> 11:08 /usr/bin/X11 ->
> > ../X11R6/bin
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $
> ah ok, hadnt noticed that!
> 
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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-16 Thread Terence Ng
Yes, it is located in /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm. Because
there is a shortcut in /usr/bin/X11, it is the same as
in /usr/X11R6/bin.

 --- Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun
16, 2003 at 11:39:08AM +0800, Terence Ng
> wrote:
> > I have modified /etc/X11/default-display-manager,
> it
> > shows:
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm
> have you checked that xdm actually exists in that
> location?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which xdm
> /usr/bin/X11/xdm
> 
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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-16 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 06:43:46PM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 12:00, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which xdm
> > /usr/bin/X11/xdm
> 
> And:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/X11
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 May 25 11:08 /usr/bin/X11 ->
> ../X11R6/bin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $
ah ok, hadnt noticed that!

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-16 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 12:00, Hugh Saunders wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which xdm
> /usr/bin/X11/xdm

And:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $ ls -l /usr/bin/X11
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 May 25 11:08 /usr/bin/X11 ->
../X11R6/bin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ $


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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-16 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 11:39:08AM +0800, Terence Ng wrote:
> I have modified /etc/X11/default-display-manager, it
> shows:
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm
have you checked that xdm actually exists in that location?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which xdm
/usr/bin/X11/xdm

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Terence Ng
Hi,

I have run: dpkg --purge gdm, dpkg-reconfigure -plow
xdm

I have modified /etc/X11/default-display-manager, it
shows:
/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm

After I reboot, it still shows that xdm is not the
default display manager.

Best regards,
Terence

 --- Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun
15, 2003 at 08:57:19PM +0100, Colin
> Watson wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:42:43PM +0100, Hugh
> Saunders wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:10:17PM +0200, Mario
> Vukelic wrote:
> > > > First, you really should use aptitude to
> install and remove stuff.
> > > > Try that first.
> > > 
> > > Its fine to suggest aptitude, its usefull in
> some situations, but i
> > > dont think you can say that people _should_ use
> it. People can install
> > > packages however they like apt-get, dpkg,
> aptitude, synaptic, wajig,
> > > etc.
> > 
> > However, I think it's safe to say that if they
> can't debug their own
> > problems then they shouldn't be using dpkg
> directly. :)
> 
> well maybe im a strange case, but i seem to learn by
> breaking stuff :)
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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 08:57:19PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:42:43PM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:10:17PM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> > > First, you really should use aptitude to install and remove stuff.
> > > Try that first.
> > 
> > Its fine to suggest aptitude, its usefull in some situations, but i
> > dont think you can say that people _should_ use it. People can install
> > packages however they like apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, synaptic, wajig,
> > etc.
> 
> However, I think it's safe to say that if they can't debug their own
> problems then they shouldn't be using dpkg directly. :)

well maybe im a strange case, but i seem to learn by breaking stuff :)

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:42:43PM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:10:17PM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> > First, you really should use aptitude to install and remove stuff.
> > Try that first.
> 
> Its fine to suggest aptitude, its usefull in some situations, but i
> dont think you can say that people _should_ use it. People can install
> packages however they like apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, synaptic, wajig,
> etc.

However, I think it's safe to say that if they can't debug their own
problems then they shouldn't be using dpkg directly. :)

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 17:42, Hugh Saunders wrote:

> Its fine to suggest aptitude, its usefull in some situations, but i dont
> think you can say that people _should_ use it. People can install packages
> however they like apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, synaptic, wajig, etc.

Sure, however, they should really use package managers that take care of
depends/suggests and such, and not the low-level tools. aptitude does a
great job in solving problems like the one at hand. Manually invoking
dpkg should be a last resort


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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 07:58:38AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:36:06PM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ man dpkg-reconfigure |grep plow
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 
> > 
> > been doing some farming??
> 
> The man page is out of date if it doesn't include -plow...

ah spotted this: 
-pvalue, --priority=value
Specify the minimum priority of question that will be displayed.
dpkg-reconfigure normally shows low priority questions no matter what your
default priority is.

i guess -plow means --priority=low

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:36:06PM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ man dpkg-reconfigure |grep plow
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 
> 
> been doing some farming??

The man page is out of date if it doesn't include -plow...

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:10:17PM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> First, you really should use aptitude to install and remove stuff. Try
> that first.
Its fine to suggest aptitude, its usefull in some situations, but i dont
think you can say that people _should_ use it. People can install packages
however they like apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, synaptic, wajig, etc.

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 07:12:43AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Since there's no real benefit to having more than one display manager
> installed, dpkg --purge gdm, dpkg-reconfigure -plow xdm

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ man dpkg-reconfigure |grep plow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 15:45, Terence Ng wrote:
> I cannot remove gdm by running: dpkg --remove gdm

First, you really should use aptitude to install and remove stuff. Try
that first.
In general, copying the error messages is more likely to generate
helpful answers that just saying you "cannot" :)

> and I have already installed xdm

So, does 
> > edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager to read
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm. 
help?


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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 07:19:25PM +0800, Terence Ng wrote:
> but message shows:
> Not starting X display manager (xdm); it is not the
> default display manager.
> 
> I have viewed /etc/X11/default-display-manager
> and it shows:
> /etc/bin/gdm

> What can I do?

Since there's no real benefit to having more than one display manager
installed, dpkg --purge gdm, dpkg-reconfigure -plow xdm

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Terence Ng
I cannot remove gdm by running: dpkg --remove gdm
and I have already installed xdm

 --- Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 13:19, Terence Ng wrote:
> 
> > I have viewed /etc/X11/default-display-manager
> > and it shows:
> > /etc/bin/gdm
> > 
> > but I do not know how to set, since there is no
> > /etc/bin/xdm such file.
> 
> If xdm is installed, edit
> /etc/X11/default-display-manager to read
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm. 
> Maybe this is done automatically if you remove gdm
> and reinstall xdm
> 
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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 07:19:25PM +0800, Terence Ng wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> How do I set xdm as default?  I have tried:
> rcconf and select xdm and
> /etc/init.d/xdm start
> 
> but message shows:
> Not starting X display manager (xdm); it is not the
> default display manager.
> 
> I have viewed /etc/X11/default-display-manager
> and it shows:
> /etc/bin/gdm
> 
> but I do not know how to set, since there is no
> /etc/bin/xdm such file.
> 
> What can I do?
which xdm >/etc/X11/default-display-manager

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Re: How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 13:19, Terence Ng wrote:

> I have viewed /etc/X11/default-display-manager
> and it shows:
> /etc/bin/gdm
> 
> but I do not know how to set, since there is no
> /etc/bin/xdm such file.

If xdm is installed, edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager to read
/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm. 
Maybe this is done automatically if you remove gdm and reinstall xdm


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How to set xdm as default

2003-06-15 Thread Terence Ng
Hi!

How do I set xdm as default?  I have tried:
rcconf and select xdm and
/etc/init.d/xdm start

but message shows:
Not starting X display manager (xdm); it is not the
default display manager.

I have viewed /etc/X11/default-display-manager
and it shows:
/etc/bin/gdm

but I do not know how to set, since there is no
/etc/bin/xdm such file.

What can I do?

Best regards,
Terence

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