Re: How to start PPP?
> Okay; I give up on the documentation. Maybe someone on the list can help. I think you are too hasty about it. In general, documantation is not easy to read and understand, but it is a great source for help. As for your problem: 1) Check Debian's FAQ-O-MATIC. I don't know what it has but I think there is relevant info. 2) Try to test the connection as root. Permitions problems are quite common and testing the connection as root helps to examine them. 3) Try to cahnge the references from /dev/modem to /dev/ttyS1 (if your modem on COM2, /dev/ttyS2 if it is on COM3, etc). 4) Have a look at the relevant log lines abd see if that help you focous on the problem. 5) Install minicom and see if you can call your ISP with it, and what is their response. 6) Mail the list if you need further help. Attaching the relevant log file lines is desirable. > > I've got a minimal Debian 2.0 system up and running (base install from the > floppies and that's it). I've run pppconfig and told it to create a > connection named "bub". I haven't found any documentation that tells me how > to use this connection. I've found several references to running pon, or > pppd, and references to chatscript and provider and etc etc etc. > > I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the > "provider" connection (which doesn't work, presumably because the > "provider" files aren't properly configured - it gives an error message > about /dev/modem being an unrecognized option). But if I type pon bub > (which is what I would have thought would've used the "bub" connection), > all that happens is the system thinks for a couple of seconds and then > returns me to a prompt. There's no modem activity or messages or anything. > > Any suggestions as to what I can do different? Thanks! > > === > Kent West | Technology Support/ > | > Abilene Christian University | Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 > | > ACU Station, Box 29005| E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General > | > === > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: How to start PPP?
On Thu, Sep 17, 1998 at 02:27:21PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > At 10:03 AM 9/17/1998 -0700, you wrote: > >I've been reading the thread so it seems that you were trying this as > >root (ie, no file permissions problems). What speed did you set the > >serial port to in chatscript? Mine is 115200 (to a 28.8 modem > >external). What modem? (internal/external, brand?). Does anything at > >all happen on the modem (if external do any lights change?) If you > >had X up you could monitor this in the xconsole (there MUST be a way > >to pipe the same info to another virtual terminal!) A few issues ago Try using an entry in /etc/syslog.conf as annotated therein: # # I like to have messages displayed on the console, but only on a virtual # console I usually leave idle. # daemon,mail.*;\ news.=crit;news.=err;news.=notice;\ *.=debug;*.=info;\ *.=notice;*.=warn /dev/tty5 Or as suggested in "Linux Tips HOWTO / v3.0, 7 January 1997" add the following line to /etc/syslog.conf *.*/dev/tty5 to dump everything on tty5. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kern Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Debian GNU/Linux
Re: How to start PPP?
Kent West writes: > I changed the speed in /etc/ppp/peers/provider from 115000 to 14400. Try 38400. It should work and will give you better throughput. > I still can't ping anything,... What does your 'plog' output look like new? Do you have your ISP's DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: How to start PPP?
Kent West writes: > I just tried 115200 per your suggestion. The modem did not respond in any > way. So I tried 38400, and the modem dials. So I guess the fast speed > just couldn't handshake with the slow modem. 57600 is probably the fastest speed your 14.4 modem can handle. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: How to start PPP?
Yea! Success! At both 38400 and 57600 I can dial. Not only that, I now have a PPP connection such that I can ping another computer. Whoopee! Thanks to everyone! At 04:07 PM 9/17/1998 -0500, you wrote: >You might want to try 57600, > >Peter > >-Original Message- >From: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Peter Iannarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 2:59 PM >Subject: Re: How to start PPP? > > >>At 03:38 PM 9/17/1998 -0500, you wrote: >>>115000 is not a valid baud rate -- try 115200. >> >>I just tried 115200 per your suggestion. The modem did not respond in any >>way. So I tried 38400, and the modem dials. So I guess the fast speed just >>couldn't handshake with the slow modem. >> >>=== >>Kent West | Technology Support/ | >>Abilene Christian University | Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | >>ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >>Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | >>=== >> >> >>-- >>Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < >/dev/null >> >> > === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
Re: How to start PPP?
At 03:38 PM 9/17/1998 -0500, you wrote: >115000 is not a valid baud rate -- try 115200. I just tried 115200 per your suggestion. The modem did not respond in any way. So I tried 38400, and the modem dials. So I guess the fast speed just couldn't handshake with the slow modem. === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
Re: How to start PPP?
Oh, and thanks to everyone else who helped also, not just Kenneth! At 02:27 PM 9/17/1998 -0500, you wrote: >At 10:03 AM 9/17/1998 -0700, you wrote: >>I've been reading the thread so it seems that you were trying this as >>root (ie, no file permissions problems). What speed did you set the >>serial port to in chatscript? Mine is 115200 (to a 28.8 modem >>external). What modem? (internal/external, brand?). Does anything at >>all happen on the modem (if external do any lights change?) If you >>had X up you could monitor this in the xconsole (there MUST be a way >>to pipe the same info to another virtual terminal!) A few issues ago >>(within the last 6 mo anyway) SCC in their linux magazine (linux >>journal?) had an article on ppp, showing how to monitor what is going >>on. Maybe that would help. I have the issue at home, I can get back >>to you with the issue no if you want. >> > >Kenneth Sharf is a genius! > >I changed the speed in /etc/ppp/peers/provider from 115000 to 14400. Now >the modem is dialing out. I still can't ping anything, but I figure that's >another issue. > >Thanks, Kenneth! > >PS. FYI, it's a Technology Concepts, Inc modem, external model LineLink >144e. I won't stay with this modem, but it's all I've got handy at the moment. >=== >Kent West | Technology Support/ >| >Abilene Christian University | Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 >| >ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >Abilene, TX 79699-9005| Ham:KC5ENO, General >| >=== > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
Re: How to start PPP?
-Original Message- From: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How to start PPP? >At 10:03 AM 9/17/1998 -0700, you wrote: >>I've been reading the thread so it seems that you were trying this as >>root (ie, no file permissions problems). What speed did you set the >>serial port to in chatscript? Mine is 115200 (to a 28.8 modem >>external). What modem? (internal/external, brand?). Does anything at >>all happen on the modem (if external do any lights change?) If you >>had X up you could monitor this in the xconsole (there MUST be a way >>to pipe the same info to another virtual terminal!) A few issues ago >>(within the last 6 mo anyway) SCC in their linux magazine (linux >>journal?) had an article on ppp, showing how to monitor what is going >>on. Maybe that would help. I have the issue at home, I can get back >>to you with the issue no if you want. >> > >Kenneth Sharf is a genius! > >I changed the speed in /etc/ppp/peers/provider from 115000 to 14400. Now 115000 is not a valid baud rate -- try 115200. >the modem is dialing out. I still can't ping anything, but I figure that's >another issue. > >Thanks, Kenneth! > >PS. FYI, it's a Technology Concepts, Inc modem, external model LineLink >144e. I won't stay with this modem, but it's all I've got handy at the moment. >=== >Kent West | Technology Support/ | >Abilene Christian University | Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | >ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | >=== > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: How to start PPP?
At 10:03 AM 9/17/1998 -0700, you wrote: >I've been reading the thread so it seems that you were trying this as >root (ie, no file permissions problems). What speed did you set the >serial port to in chatscript? Mine is 115200 (to a 28.8 modem >external). What modem? (internal/external, brand?). Does anything at >all happen on the modem (if external do any lights change?) If you >had X up you could monitor this in the xconsole (there MUST be a way >to pipe the same info to another virtual terminal!) A few issues ago >(within the last 6 mo anyway) SCC in their linux magazine (linux >journal?) had an article on ppp, showing how to monitor what is going >on. Maybe that would help. I have the issue at home, I can get back >to you with the issue no if you want. > Kenneth Sharf is a genius! I changed the speed in /etc/ppp/peers/provider from 115000 to 14400. Now the modem is dialing out. I still can't ping anything, but I figure that's another issue. Thanks, Kenneth! PS. FYI, it's a Technology Concepts, Inc modem, external model LineLink 144e. I won't stay with this modem, but it's all I've got handy at the moment. === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
Re: How to start PPP?
At 12:45 PM 9/17/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Kent West writes: >> I've just discovered the chat command (I'm a newbie). I can echo a >> command from the prompt to the modem, but when I try "chat "" ATZ OK >> ATDT(phonenum)" the system sits for a while displaying "ATZ" and then >> just returns me to the prompt. As mentioned below, apparently the echo >> command from the prompt "sees" the modem, but chat does not. Any clues? > >chat knows nothing about modems. It just writes each 'send' string to its >standard output and reads its standard input for the matching 'expect' >string. When pppd runs chat, it connects chat to the modem. When you run >chat from the command line, it writes to the display and reads the >keyboard. Try 'chat "" ATZ OK ATDT(phonenum)' again, but this time respond >to the 'ATZ' with 'OK'. >-- >John Hasler >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) >Dancing Horse Hill >Elmwood, WI I don't have minicom yet (re: your previous suggestion to try minicom). The test you suggested above was interesting. You're right, it just sent data to the screen and accepted it from the keyboard. I'm glad you told me that; it helps me understand. Is there a way to get the modem to send/recieve to/from the modem instead of standard in/out? Kenneth Sharf suggested something that might be the culprit. He suggested checking the serial port speed. I originally tried to get ppp set up with a 2400 modem (not for production, just for setup/testing purposes), but couldn't get any response with it (even with the "echo" command). So I scrounged up a 14.4 modem, and this is the one I'm now having problems with. If the ports are set to 115000 or something fast, will that prevent the modem from "handshaking" with the serial port and cause my problem? If so, how do I slow down the port (until I can get a better modem)? I suspect I'd use the setserial command, but if that's correct and you know the syntax off the top of your head I'd appreciate it. (If you don't know the syntax, I can try setserial --help and Maybe figure it out -- remember, I don't have man pages yet either). Which reminds me, is there anywhere on the web where man pages can be accessed in HTML format or some other browser-readable format? Thanks. === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
Re: How to start PPP?
Nils writes: > A lot of modems need a lot of time after a ATZ command and get confused > when they receive anything in this period of time. Try to let chat wait a > while after issuing the ATZ. When he types in a chat command on the command line the modem does not get involved at all: see my previous message. When pppd runs chat, chat sends 'ATZ' to the modem and then waits for up to 45 seconds for the 'OK' response. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: How to start PPP?
Kent West writes: > It's almost as if the "echo ATDT" command at the prompt "sees" the > modem, but the ppp stuff does not see the modem. I think the modem is receiving what is sent to /dev/ttyS1 whether it comes from the console or from pppd, but does not respond to 'ATZ' with 'OK'. Try connecting to the modem with minicom to see what is going on. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: How to start PPP?
Kent West writes: > I've just discovered the chat command (I'm a newbie). I can echo a > command from the prompt to the modem, but when I try "chat "" ATZ OK > ATDT(phonenum)" the system sits for a while displaying "ATZ" and then > just returns me to the prompt. As mentioned below, apparently the echo > command from the prompt "sees" the modem, but chat does not. Any clues? chat knows nothing about modems. It just writes each 'send' string to its standard output and reads its standard input for the matching 'expect' string. When pppd runs chat, it connects chat to the modem. When you run chat from the command line, it writes to the display and reads the keyboard. Try 'chat "" ATZ OK ATDT(phonenum)' again, but this time respond to the 'ATZ' with 'OK'. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: How to start PPP?
At 07:40 AM 9/17/1998 -0500, you wrote: >> " " "expect (OK) >> " " "alarm >> " " "Failed > >Your modem is not responding to the ATZ command with OK. Are you certain >that your modem is on /dev/ttyS1? Connect to with minicom and see how it >responds. >-- >John Hasler >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) >Dancing Horse Hill >Elmwood, WI I installed from floppies, and until I get a modem/ftp connection up I can't install minicom. If I type "echo ATDT(phone_number_of_my_other_line) > /dev/ttyS1", I can hear the modem dial and then I can pick up my other phone and talk to the phone and I can hear my voice coming out of the modem. Then I can "echo ATZ > /dev/ttyS1" and the modem hangs up. So it must be on /dev/ttyS1. === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
Re: How to start PPP?
On Thu, Sep 17, 1998 at 08:19:08AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > I've just discovered the chat command (I'm a newbie). I can echo a command > from the prompt to the modem, but when I try "chat "" ATZ OK > ATDT(phonenum)" the system sits for a while displaying "ATZ" and then just > returns me to the prompt. A lot of modems need a lot of time after a ATZ command and get confused when they receive anything in this period of time. Try to let chat wait a while after issuing the ATZ. Such effects did puzzle me for a long time. Nils -- *-* | Quotes from the net: L> Linus Torvalds, W> Winfried Truemper | | L>this is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 | | W>Umh, oh. What do you mean by "special easter release"?. Will it quit | * W>working today and rise on easter? * pgpdpDJEBARGx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to start PPP?
I've just discovered the chat command (I'm a newbie). I can echo a command from the prompt to the modem, but when I try "chat "" ATZ OK ATDT(phonenum)" the system sits for a while displaying "ATZ" and then just returns me to the prompt. As mentioned below, apparently the echo command from the prompt "sees" the modem, but chat does not. Any clues? Thanks. PS (I installed from floppies, so I don't yet have the man pages. Can anyone send the basic syntax of the chat command, along with an example or two? Thanks.) At 07:47 AM 9/17/1998 -0500, you wrote: >At 05:34 AM 9/17/1998 -0700, you wrote: >>1: the documentation for ppp is in the man pages, which you probably >>have not installed? > >Correct; I don't yet have the man pages installed. >Yes, my /etc/ppp/peers/provider references /dev/ttyS1.(I wiped the drive >and reinstalled thinking maybe it was something with the serial support in >the kernel; I get no errors when booting and the system recognizes both >serial ports as 16550, etc. I also took the default of "provider" instead >of "bub" during pppconfig). > >I can also "echo ATDT > /dev/ttyS1" and get the modem to dial >(and I can hear the phone in the next room ringing). I can then "echo ATH1 >(or ATZ) > /dev/ttyS1" and get the modem to hang up. > >The output of plog looks like: >chat[144]: abort on (NO CARRIER) > " " "abort on (VOICE) > " " "abort on (NO DIALTONE) > " " "abort on (NO ANSWER) > " " "send (ATZ^M) > " " "expect (OK) > " " "alarm > " " "Failed > " " pppd[143] Connect script failed > " " pppd[143] Exit. > >It's almost as if the "echo ATDT" command at the prompt "sees" the >modem, but the ppp stuff does not see the modem. > > >>I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the >>"provider" connection (which doesn't work, presumably because the >>"provider" files aren't properly configured - it gives an error message >>about /dev/modem being an unrecognized option). But if I type pon bub >>(which is what I would have thought would've used the "bub" connection), >>all that happens is the system thinks for a couple of seconds and then >>returns me to a prompt. There's no modem activity or messages or >>anything. >> >>Any suggestions as to what I can do different? Thanks! === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
Re: How to start PPP?
At 05:34 AM 9/17/1998 -0700, you wrote: >1: the documentation for ppp is in the man pages, which you probably >have not installed? Correct; I don't yet have the man pages installed. >2: the correct way to start ppp is 'pon connect-name' where >connect-name is the name of the service you gave when you ran pppconfig. I thought that seemed right. Thanks for verifying it. >3. I seem to have a similar problem. The mystery became clear when I >started ppp from an XTerm. I had an xconsole open and all the 'debug' >messages from pppd were piped into the xconsole by default so I could >see what was happening. There should be a way to get this to happen >from a tty console as well. In my case it appears that my serial >ports sometimes don't get initialized correctly the first time. Under >debian 1.3.1 starting pon pppd would time out after about a minute, >then be restarted and would dial out on the modem. Under debian 2.0 I >have to start pon, then kill the process (pppd), then start pon again >to get it to work. Using pon, poff, then pon again also works. Nope; this doesn't work for me. >4. Are you using the right serial port? /dev/ttyS0 (com1), or >/dev/ttyS1 (com2)? /dev/modem should be a symlink to one of the >above. DONT USE /dev/cuaX !!! Yes, my /etc/ppp/peers/provider references /dev/ttyS1.(I wiped the drive and reinstalled thinking maybe it was something with the serial support in the kernel; I get no errors when booting and the system recognizes both serial ports as 16550, etc. I also took the default of "provider" instead of "bub" during pppconfig). I can also "echo ATDT > /dev/ttyS1" and get the modem to dial (and I can hear the phone in the next room ringing). I can then "echo ATH1 (or ATZ) > /dev/ttyS1" and get the modem to hang up. The output of plog looks like: chat[144]: abort on (NO CARRIER) "" "abort on (VOICE) "" "abort on (NO DIALTONE) "" "abort on (NO ANSWER) "" "send (ATZ^M) "" "expect (OK) "" "alarm "" "Failed "" pppd[143] Connect script failed "" pppd[143] Exit. It's almost as if the "echo ATDT" command at the prompt "sees" the modem, but the ppp stuff does not see the modem. >I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the >"provider" connection (which doesn't work, presumably because the >"provider" files aren't properly configured - it gives an error message >about /dev/modem being an unrecognized option). But if I type pon bub >(which is what I would have thought would've used the "bub" connection), >all that happens is the system thinks for a couple of seconds and then >returns me to a prompt. There's no modem activity or messages or >anything. > >Any suggestions as to what I can do different? Thanks! === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
How to start PPP?
1: the documentation for ppp is in the man pages, which you probably have not installed? 2: the correct way to start ppp is 'pon connect-name' where connect-name is the name of the service you gave when you ran pppconfig. 3. I seem to have a similar problem. The mystery became clear when I started ppp from an XTerm. I had an xconsole open and all the 'debug' messages from pppd were piped into the xconsole by default so I could see what was happening. There should be a way to get this to happen from a tty console as well. In my case it appears that my serial ports sometimes don't get initialized correctly the first time. Under debian 1.3.1 starting pon pppd would time out after about a minute, then be restarted and would dial out on the modem. Under debian 2.0 I have to start pon, then kill the process (pppd), then start pon again to get it to work. Using pon, poff, then pon again also works. 4. Are you using the right serial port? /dev/ttyS0 (com1), or /dev/ttyS1 (com2)? /dev/modem should be a symlink to one of the above. DONT USE /dev/cuaX !!! -- Okay; I give up on the documentation. Maybe someone on the list can help. I've got a minimal Debian 2.0 system up and running (base install from the floppies and that's it). I've run pppconfig and told it to create a connection named "bub". I haven't found any documentation that tells me how to use this connection. I've found several references to running pon, or pppd, and references to chatscript and provider and etc etc etc. I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the "provider" connection (which doesn't work, presumably because the "provider" files aren't properly configured - it gives an error message about /dev/modem being an unrecognized option). But if I type pon bub (which is what I would have thought would've used the "bub" connection), all that happens is the system thinks for a couple of seconds and then returns me to a prompt. There's no modem activity or messages or anything. Any suggestions as to what I can do different? Thanks! _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: How to start PPP?
On Wed, Sep 16, 1998 at 10:13:35PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > At 11:34 PM 9/16/1998 -0300, you wrote: > >On Wed, Sep 16, 1998 at 08:11:51PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > >> Okay; I give up on the documentation. Maybe someone on the list can help. [...] > >> "provider" files aren't properly configured - it gives an error message > >> about /dev/modem being an unrecognized option). But if I type pon bub > >> (which is what I would have thought would've used the "bub" connection), > >> all that happens is the system thinks for a couple of seconds and then > >> returns me to a prompt. There's no modem activity or messages or anything. > > > >If you are not running "pon bub" as root, then the problem appears to > >be related to wrong permissions on the system files and the requirement > >for users using pppd to be in the proper group (/etc/group): > > > > The ppp files permissions under Debian 2.0 should look like this: > > > > drwx--x--- 2 root dip /etc/chatscripts/ > > -rw-r- 1 root dip /etc/chatscripts/provider > > drwx--x--- 5 root dip /etc/ppp/ > > -rw--- 1 root root /etc/ppp/options > > -rw--- 1 root root /etc/ppp/pap-secrets > > -rw--- 1 root root /etc/ppp/chap-secrets > > drwx--x--- 2 root dip /etc/ppp/peers/ > > -rw-r- 1 root dip /etc/ppp/peers/provider > > -rws--x--- 1 root dip /usr/sbin/pppd > > -rwxr-x--- 1 root dip /usr/bin/pon > > -rwxr-x--- 1 root dip /usr/bin/poff > > crw--- 1 root root /dev/ttyS2 > > > > Put the users who are to bring up a ppp link in the dip group. > > > > As shipped Debian 2.0 has /etc/chatscripts like this: > > > > drwx-- 2 root dip /etc/chatscripts/ > > > > This is a known bug -- wrong permissions on /etc/chatscripts/. > > > I am running it as root. > > Since this is a new installation, I decided to wipe the drive and do > another install. I also decided to stick with the defaults and use the name > "provider" instead of "bub". Now pon is doing the same thing; the system > thinks for a minute and then returns me to the prompt. > > When I do a "ps a", it shows that "/usr/bin/ppd call provider" and > "usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" are running on tty S1 with > a stat of S and a time of 0:00. If I wait a couple of minutes and do > another "ps a", they are no longer there. > > The permissions on the files (just after the new install) are as follows: > drwxr-s---2 rootdip /etc/chatscripts/ > -rw-r-1 rootdip /etc/chatscripts/provider > drwx--5 rootroot/etc/ppp/ > -rw-r--r--1 rootroot/etc/ppp/options > -rw---1 rootroot/etc/ppp/pap-secrets > -rw---1 rootroot/etc/ppp/chap-secrets > drwxr-s---2 rootdip /etc/ppp/peers > -rw-r-1 rootdip /etc/ppp/peers/provider > -rwsr-xr--1 rootdip /usr/bin/pppd > -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot/usr/bin/pon > -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot/usr/bin/poff > crw-rw1 rootdialout /dev/ttyS1 > > I notice the permissions aren't quite the same as what you listed, so I'll > try playing with those in a few minutes. Well, maybe not. Perhaps the packages have been updated to correct the "bug". -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kern Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Debian GNU/Linux
Re: How to start PPP?
At 09:22 PM 9/16/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>Kent West writes:
>> I've got a minimal Debian > 2.0 system up and running (base install from
>> the floppies and that's it). I've run pppconfig and told it to create a
>> connection named "bub". I haven't found any documentation that tells me
>> how to use this connection.
>
>'pon bub' . This is a bug in the pon man page.
>
>> I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the
>> "provider" connection...
>
>This is the default, if pon is given no argument. This is pon:
>
>#!/bin/sh
>/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider}
>
>> But if I type pon bub (which is what I would have thought would've used
>> the "bub" connection), all that happens is the system thinks for a couple
>> of seconds and then returns me to a prompt.
>
>Send me copies of /etc/chatscripts/bub, /etc/ppp/peers/bub,
>/etc/ppp/pap-secrets if you are using PAP (munge the passwords) and the
>output of the 'plog' command.
>--
>John Hasler
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
>Dancing Horse Hill
>Elmwood, WI
Here are the files (I wiped the drive and reinstalled and used the default
of "provider" instead of "bub"; getting same results):
/etc/chatscripts/provider
---
ABORT BUSY
ABORT "NO CARRIER"
ABORT VOICE
ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
ABORT "NO ANSWER"
"" ATZ
OK ATDT6871 (it's a valid number; I'm on campus)
CONNECT \d\c
/etc/ppp/peers/provider
-
#This file was generated by pppconfig. You can edit blah blah blah
#more blah blah
noauth #pppconfig_noauth
connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" #pppconfig_connect
debug #pppconfig_debug
/dev/ttyS1 #pppconfig_dev
115200 #pppconfig_speed
defaultroute#pppconfig_route
noipdefault #pppconfig_ipdefault
user westk #pppconfic_user
#End of pppconfig blah blah blah
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets (just the un-commented lines
-
* molec3 "" *
guest molec3 "*" -
master molec3 "*" -
rootmolec3 "*" -
support molec3 "*" -
stats molec3 "*" -
molec3 * password
westk *
output of plog (now this is something new to me; interesting...)
--
chat[144]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
"" "abort on (VOICE)
"" "abort on (NO DIALTONE)
"" "abort on (NO ANSWER)
"" "send (ATZ^M)
"" "expect (OK)
"" "alarm
"" "Failed
"" pppd[143] Connect script failed
"" pppd[143] Exit.
Thanks for any help!
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Re: How to start PPP?
At 11:34 PM 9/16/1998 -0300, you wrote: >On Wed, Sep 16, 1998 at 08:11:51PM -0500, Kent West wrote: >> Okay; I give up on the documentation. Maybe someone on the list can help. >> >> I've got a minimal Debian 2.0 system up and running (base install from the >> floppies and that's it). I've run pppconfig and told it to create a >> connection named "bub". I haven't found any documentation that tells me how >> to use this connection. I've found several references to running pon, or >> pppd, and references to chatscript and provider and etc etc etc. >> >> I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the >> "provider" connection (which doesn't work, presumably because the >> "provider" files aren't properly configured - it gives an error message >> about /dev/modem being an unrecognized option). But if I type pon bub >> (which is what I would have thought would've used the "bub" connection), >> all that happens is the system thinks for a couple of seconds and then >> returns me to a prompt. There's no modem activity or messages or anything. > >If you are not running "pon bub" as root, then the problem appears to >be related to wrong permissions on the system files and the requirement >for users using pppd to be in the proper group (/etc/group): > > The ppp files permissions under Debian 2.0 should look like this: > > drwx--x--- 2 root dip /etc/chatscripts/ > -rw-r- 1 root dip /etc/chatscripts/provider > drwx--x--- 5 root dip /etc/ppp/ > -rw--- 1 root root /etc/ppp/options > -rw--- 1 root root /etc/ppp/pap-secrets > -rw--- 1 root root /etc/ppp/chap-secrets > drwx--x--- 2 root dip /etc/ppp/peers/ > -rw-r- 1 root dip /etc/ppp/peers/provider > -rws--x--- 1 root dip /usr/sbin/pppd > -rwxr-x--- 1 root dip /usr/bin/pon > -rwxr-x--- 1 root dip /usr/bin/poff > crw--- 1 root root /dev/ttyS2 > > Put the users who are to bring up a ppp link in the dip group. > > As shipped Debian 2.0 has /etc/chatscripts like this: > > drwx-- 2 root dip /etc/chatscripts/ > > This is a known bug -- wrong permissions on /etc/chatscripts/. > > (quoted from a message on debian-user) > > >-- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kern Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Debian GNU/Linux I am running it as root. Since this is a new installation, I decided to wipe the drive and do another install. I also decided to stick with the defaults and use the name "provider" instead of "bub". Now pon is doing the same thing; the system thinks for a minute and then returns me to the prompt. When I do a "ps a", it shows that "/usr/bin/ppd call provider" and "usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" are running on tty S1 with a stat of S and a time of 0:00. If I wait a couple of minutes and do another "ps a", they are no longer there. The permissions on the files (just after the new install) are as follows: drwxr-s--- 2 rootdip /etc/chatscripts/ -rw-r- 1 rootdip /etc/chatscripts/provider drwx-- 5 rootroot/etc/ppp/ -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot/etc/ppp/options -rw--- 1 rootroot/etc/ppp/pap-secrets -rw--- 1 rootroot/etc/ppp/chap-secrets drwxr-s--- 2 rootdip /etc/ppp/peers -rw-r- 1 rootdip /etc/ppp/peers/provider -rwsr-xr-- 1 rootdip /usr/bin/pppd -rwxr-xr-x 1 rootroot/usr/bin/pon -rwxr-xr-x 1 rootroot/usr/bin/poff crw-rw 1 rootdialout /dev/ttyS1 I notice the permissions aren't quite the same as what you listed, so I'll try playing with those in a few minutes. I can "echo ATDT > /dev/ttyS1" and I can hear the modem dial and the phone in the other room ring. Then I can "echo ATZ > /dev/ttyS1" and it hangs up, so I know the hardware is working. I'll send another message to the list in response to John Hasler with a listing of some of the pertinent files. Thanks! === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
Re: How to start PPP?
On Wed, Sep 16, 1998 at 08:11:51PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Okay; I give up on the documentation. Maybe someone on the list can help. > > I've got a minimal Debian 2.0 system up and running (base install from the > floppies and that's it). I've run pppconfig and told it to create a > connection named "bub". I haven't found any documentation that tells me how > to use this connection. I've found several references to running pon, or > pppd, and references to chatscript and provider and etc etc etc. > > I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the > "provider" connection (which doesn't work, presumably because the > "provider" files aren't properly configured - it gives an error message > about /dev/modem being an unrecognized option). But if I type pon bub > (which is what I would have thought would've used the "bub" connection), > all that happens is the system thinks for a couple of seconds and then > returns me to a prompt. There's no modem activity or messages or anything. If you are not running "pon bub" as root, then the problem appears to be related to wrong permissions on the system files and the requirement for users using pppd to be in the proper group (/etc/group): The ppp files permissions under Debian 2.0 should look like this: drwx--x--- 2 root dip /etc/chatscripts/ -rw-r- 1 root dip /etc/chatscripts/provider drwx--x--- 5 root dip /etc/ppp/ -rw--- 1 root root /etc/ppp/options -rw--- 1 root root /etc/ppp/pap-secrets -rw--- 1 root root /etc/ppp/chap-secrets drwx--x--- 2 root dip /etc/ppp/peers/ -rw-r- 1 root dip /etc/ppp/peers/provider -rws--x--- 1 root dip /usr/sbin/pppd -rwxr-x--- 1 root dip /usr/bin/pon -rwxr-x--- 1 root dip /usr/bin/poff crw--- 1 root root /dev/ttyS2 Put the users who are to bring up a ppp link in the dip group. As shipped Debian 2.0 has /etc/chatscripts like this: drwx-- 2 root dip /etc/chatscripts/ This is a known bug -- wrong permissions on /etc/chatscripts/. (quoted from a message on debian-user) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kern Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Debian GNU/Linux
Re: How to start PPP?
Kent West writes:
> I've got a minimal Debian > 2.0 system up and running (base install from
> the floppies and that's it). I've run pppconfig and told it to create a
> connection named "bub". I haven't found any documentation that tells me
> how to use this connection.
'pon bub' . This is a bug in the pon man page.
> I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the
> "provider" connection...
This is the default, if pon is given no argument. This is pon:
#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider}
> But if I type pon bub (which is what I would have thought would've used
> the "bub" connection), all that happens is the system thinks for a couple
> of seconds and then returns me to a prompt.
Send me copies of /etc/chatscripts/bub, /etc/ppp/peers/bub,
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets if you are using PAP (munge the passwords) and the
output of the 'plog' command.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
How to start PPP?
Okay; I give up on the documentation. Maybe someone on the list can help. I've got a minimal Debian 2.0 system up and running (base install from the floppies and that's it). I've run pppconfig and told it to create a connection named "bub". I haven't found any documentation that tells me how to use this connection. I've found several references to running pon, or pppd, and references to chatscript and provider and etc etc etc. I've figured out that if I just type pon the system tries to use the "provider" connection (which doesn't work, presumably because the "provider" files aren't properly configured - it gives an error message about /dev/modem being an unrecognized option). But if I type pon bub (which is what I would have thought would've used the "bub" connection), all that happens is the system thinks for a couple of seconds and then returns me to a prompt. There's no modem activity or messages or anything. Any suggestions as to what I can do different? Thanks! === Kent West | Technology Support/ | Abilene Christian University| Voice: 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 | ACU Station, Box 29005 | E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Abilene, TX 79699-9005 | Ham:KC5ENO, General | ===
