Re: I hate Alsa [Solved]

2007-09-18 Thread Chris Lale
Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
 On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi told:
 
 [...]
 I recently came to know that alsaconf is outdated in 2.6 kernels. You have
 to use udevtrigger instead of alsaconf. See #430624, #432678 for more info.
 
 alsaconf will be fixed for PnP cards in 1.0.14-2 upload.

I have added this information to the NewbieDOC documentation [1].

[1]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Alsaconf_is_broken_and_will_not_be_fixed_in_Debian_Etch

Thanks,

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Re: I hate Alsa

2007-09-16 Thread 应富鸣
On 9/13/07, Barry Samuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Debian Testing up to date as of yesterday.
 Kernel 2.6.22
 Sound from on-board Intel (snd_hda_intel)
 Kmix as the mixer

 When I used OSS I had no audio problems at all - everything (playback
 and recording) just worked but since I went over to Alsa (about a year
 ago) I've had trouble getting recording to work.

 Normally I find that playback gives no problems and I did for a short
 period get playback and recording working properly then after a Debian
 upgrade the recording stopped working properly again.

 If I try to record (arecord) using a microphone I cannot move the
 recording volume slider above 70% otherwise I start getting extremely
 distorted sound on playback (aplay) and although the recording volume
 is adequate there is a loud background hum. If I reduce the recording
 volume to about 60% the loud hum changes to a noticeable hiss but the
 recorded voice is too low.

 I have to use the 'Digital' slider on the Kmix input tab to control
 microphone volume - none of the other sliders seem to do anything. I
 also have to have the first capture slider on (un-muted) to get any
 sound at all but it makes no difference whether that slider is at the
 bottom or not - it does not affect the volume.

 I also have a record deck with a USB connection which I last used under
 OSS. The setup was working then and, as I remember, it was pretty
 straightforward to set up. Since that time there have been many
 Debian updates and I'm almost certainly using a later kernel and I'm
 now using Alsa.

 When I came to use it this time in conjunction with Audacity, which I
 was using last time, I can't get a peep out of it.

 I have tried various inputs without success. The appropriate modules
 are loaded including snd_usb_audio.

 When the USB lead is plugged in I get this in the logs:

 kernel: usb 1-7.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
 6
 kernel: usb 1-7.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 kernel: input: Burr-Brown from TI
 USB Audio CODEC  as /class/input/input4
 kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI
 USB Audio CODEC ] on usb-:00:1d.7-7.1
 kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

 a little further on in the log I see:

 kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -28: not enough
 bandwidth

 Originally I got this in the log:

 kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -38: enable
 CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO to play through a hub

 so I enabled that in the kernel and recompiled although I'm not using a
 USB hub and then got the 'not enough bandwidth' error.

 As you may have gathered I'm beginning to take a dislike to Alsa.

 Can anyone suggest some fault tracing procedures please?

 --
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 http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk
 The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain



I use ALSA on KDE(Lenny), and krecord is used to record sound from microphone.
It works fine. I can hear the sound clearly.
Maybe it's the problem of your mixer that it was not configured fine?


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Re: I hate Alsa

2007-09-15 Thread Wackojacko

Jude DaShiell wrote:
This may be important, are you running with etch or one of the other 
distributions?  I run unstable myself but have had no need to try 
recording with alsa so can't verify or refute your experiences in this 
instance.




On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Barry Samuels wrote:


Debian Testing up to date as of yesterday.
Kernel 2.6.22
Sound from on-board Intel (snd_hda_intel)
Kmix as the mixer

When I used OSS I had no audio problems at all - everything (playback
and recording) just worked but since I went over to Alsa (about a year
ago) I've had trouble getting recording to work.

Normally I find that playback gives no problems and I did for a short
period get playback and recording working properly then after a Debian
upgrade the recording stopped working properly again.

If I try to record (arecord) using a microphone I cannot move the
recording volume slider above 70% otherwise I start getting extremely
distorted sound on playback (aplay) and although the recording volume
is adequate there is a loud background hum. If I reduce the recording
volume to about 60% the loud hum changes to a noticeable hiss but the
recorded voice is too low.


I had a similar problem using audacity with alsa and google suggested 
wrapping the offending program with 'aoss' from the alsa-oss package. 
i.e. run 'aoss arecord'




I have to use the 'Digital' slider on the Kmix input tab to control
microphone volume - none of the other sliders seem to do anything. I
also have to have the first capture slider on (un-muted) to get any
sound at all but it makes no difference whether that slider is at the
bottom or not - it does not affect the volume.

I also have a record deck with a USB connection which I last used under
OSS. The setup was working then and, as I remember, it was pretty
straightforward to set up. Since that time there have been many
Debian updates and I'm almost certainly using a later kernel and I'm
now using Alsa.

When I came to use it this time in conjunction with Audacity, which I
was using last time, I can't get a peep out of it.



I have this problem also now.  Audacity will not record anything!  No 
solution here though :)



I have tried various inputs without success. The appropriate modules
are loaded including snd_usb_audio.

When the USB lead is plugged in I get this in the logs:

kernel: usb 1-7.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
6
kernel: usb 1-7.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
kernel: input: Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC  as /class/input/input4
kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC ] on usb-:00:1d.7-7.1
kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

a little further on in the log I see:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -28: not enough
bandwidth

Originally I got this in the log:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -38: enable
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO to play through a hub

so I enabled that in the kernel and recompiled although I'm not using a
USB hub and then got the 'not enough bandwidth' error.

As you may have gathered I'm beginning to take a dislike to Alsa.

Can anyone suggest some fault tracing procedures please?

--
Barry Samuels
http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk
The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain




HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: I hate Alsa [Solved]

2007-09-15 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Barry Samuels wrote:

 Further to my previous posting I have, at last, got sound recording
 from a microphone working properly again.
 
 I don't, however, dislike Alsa any less because I don't know exactly
 what I did to put it right.
 
 I had already run alsaconf twice before posting but tried it again for
 a third time. There was no indication of any change. I then ran
 alsamixergui and tried altering the levels of some of the controls.
 There are 25 sliders on alsamixergui which gives a very large number of
 combinations.

I recently came to know that alsaconf is outdated in 2.6 kernels. You have
to use udevtrigger instead of alsaconf. See #430624, #432678 for more info.

hth
raju
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http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/
http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/


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Re: I hate Alsa [Solved]

2007-09-15 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi told:

[...]
 I recently came to know that alsaconf is outdated in 2.6 kernels. You have
 to use udevtrigger instead of alsaconf. See #430624, #432678 for more info.

alsaconf will be fixed for PnP cards in 1.0.14-2 upload.

Elimar

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  to keep a finger at the escape key;-)


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Re: I hate Alsa

2007-09-14 Thread Jude DaShiell
This may be important, are you running with etch or one of the other 
distributions?  I run unstable myself but have had no need to try 
recording with alsa so can't verify or refute your experiences in this 
instance.




On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Barry Samuels wrote:


Debian Testing up to date as of yesterday.
Kernel 2.6.22
Sound from on-board Intel (snd_hda_intel)
Kmix as the mixer

When I used OSS I had no audio problems at all - everything (playback
and recording) just worked but since I went over to Alsa (about a year
ago) I've had trouble getting recording to work.

Normally I find that playback gives no problems and I did for a short
period get playback and recording working properly then after a Debian
upgrade the recording stopped working properly again.

If I try to record (arecord) using a microphone I cannot move the
recording volume slider above 70% otherwise I start getting extremely
distorted sound on playback (aplay) and although the recording volume
is adequate there is a loud background hum. If I reduce the recording
volume to about 60% the loud hum changes to a noticeable hiss but the
recorded voice is too low.

I have to use the 'Digital' slider on the Kmix input tab to control
microphone volume - none of the other sliders seem to do anything. I
also have to have the first capture slider on (un-muted) to get any
sound at all but it makes no difference whether that slider is at the
bottom or not - it does not affect the volume.

I also have a record deck with a USB connection which I last used under
OSS. The setup was working then and, as I remember, it was pretty
straightforward to set up. Since that time there have been many
Debian updates and I'm almost certainly using a later kernel and I'm
now using Alsa.

When I came to use it this time in conjunction with Audacity, which I
was using last time, I can't get a peep out of it.

I have tried various inputs without success. The appropriate modules
are loaded including snd_usb_audio.

When the USB lead is plugged in I get this in the logs:

kernel: usb 1-7.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
6
kernel: usb 1-7.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
kernel: input: Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC  as /class/input/input4
kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC ] on usb-:00:1d.7-7.1
kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

a little further on in the log I see:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -28: not enough
bandwidth

Originally I got this in the log:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -38: enable
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO to play through a hub

so I enabled that in the kernel and recompiled although I'm not using a
USB hub and then got the 'not enough bandwidth' error.

As you may have gathered I'm beginning to take a dislike to Alsa.

Can anyone suggest some fault tracing procedures please?

--
Barry Samuels
http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk
The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain





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I hate Alsa [Solved]

2007-09-14 Thread Barry Samuels
Further to my previous posting I have, at last, got sound recording 
from a microphone working properly again.

I don't, however, dislike Alsa any less because I don't know exactly 
what I did to put it right.

I had already run alsaconf twice before posting but tried it again for 
a third time. There was no indication of any change. I then ran 
alsamixergui and tried altering the levels of some of the controls. 
There are 25 sliders on alsamixergui which gives a very large number of 
combinations.

Although the 'Microphone Boost' had no apparent effect in Kmix I tried 
it with alsamixergui and that together with a lower setting on the 
'digital' slider gave me an acceptable result.

I 'Transferred' those settings to Kmix and it's still working.

USB audio recording still doesn't work at all.

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http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk
The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain



I hate Alsa

2007-09-13 Thread Barry Samuels
Debian Testing up to date as of yesterday.
Kernel 2.6.22
Sound from on-board Intel (snd_hda_intel)
Kmix as the mixer

When I used OSS I had no audio problems at all - everything (playback 
and recording) just worked but since I went over to Alsa (about a year 
ago) I've had trouble getting recording to work.

Normally I find that playback gives no problems and I did for a short 
period get playback and recording working properly then after a Debian 
upgrade the recording stopped working properly again.

If I try to record (arecord) using a microphone I cannot move the 
recording volume slider above 70% otherwise I start getting extremely 
distorted sound on playback (aplay) and although the recording volume 
is adequate there is a loud background hum. If I reduce the recording 
volume to about 60% the loud hum changes to a noticeable hiss but the 
recorded voice is too low.

I have to use the 'Digital' slider on the Kmix input tab to control 
microphone volume - none of the other sliders seem to do anything. I 
also have to have the first capture slider on (un-muted) to get any 
sound at all but it makes no difference whether that slider is at the 
bottom or not - it does not affect the volume.

I also have a record deck with a USB connection which I last used under 
OSS. The setup was working then and, as I remember, it was pretty 
straightforward to set up. Since that time there have been many 
Debian updates and I'm almost certainly using a later kernel and I'm 
now using Alsa.

When I came to use it this time in conjunction with Audacity, which I 
was using last time, I can't get a peep out of it.

I have tried various inputs without success. The appropriate modules 
are loaded including snd_usb_audio.

When the USB lead is plugged in I get this in the logs:

kernel: usb 1-7.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 
6
kernel: usb 1-7.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
kernel: input: Burr-Brown from TI 
USB Audio CODEC  as /class/input/input4
kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI   
USB Audio CODEC ] on usb-:00:1d.7-7.1
kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

a little further on in the log I see:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -28: not enough 
bandwidth

Originally I got this in the log:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -38: enable 
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO to play through a hub

so I enabled that in the kernel and recompiled although I'm not using a 
USB hub and then got the 'not enough bandwidth' error.

As you may have gathered I'm beginning to take a dislike to Alsa.

Can anyone suggest some fault tracing procedures please?

-- 
Barry Samuels
http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk
The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain