Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-12 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
On Tue, 11 Jan, 2000 à 02:12:31PM -0500, Jim B wrote:
 Actually, shouldn't it be:
 
 append=mem=96M

Actually you're right :) 
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Laurent PICOULEAU wrote:
 
   Yes, but it doesn't work!!! I added append mem=96M, and the kernel
   still sees only 64. 8-/
  
  It should be 'append mem=96M ' (without the '). See man lilo.conf
 

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I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Arcady Genkin
2.2.14 only detects 64M out of 96M of my RAM. I thought this was fixed
in 2.2.x kernels. Comments?
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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 2.2.14 only detects 64M out of 96M of my RAM. I thought this was fixed
 in 2.2.x kernels. Comments?

It tends to be fixed, but on some hardware there's nothing the kernel can
do  human intervention is needed.

I think you know what you need in /etc/lilo.conf :)

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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Arcady Genkin
Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
 
  2.2.14 only detects 64M out of 96M of my RAM. I thought this was fixed
  in 2.2.x kernels. Comments?
 
 It tends to be fixed, but on some hardware there's nothing the kernel can
 do  human intervention is needed.
 
 I think you know what you need in /etc/lilo.conf :)

Yes, but it doesn't work!!! I added append mem=96M, and the kernel
still sees only 64. 8-/

On this very machine 2.2.13 compiled under slink saw my 96M
automatically, while this 2.2.14 kernel compiled under potato seems to
have problems with that. I used my old config file and did a make
oldconfig, so the only change is the compilation environment...

Could the new compiler + libraries have to do with this?
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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 Yes, but it doesn't work!!! I added append mem=96M, and the kernel
 still sees only 64. 8-/

Hrm...

 On this very machine 2.2.13 compiled under slink saw my 96M
 automatically, while this 2.2.14 kernel compiled under potato seems to
 have problems with that. I used my old config file and did a make
 oldconfig, so the only change is the compilation environment...
 
 Could the new compiler + libraries have to do with this?

gcc 2.95.2?  It's likely.  The kernel folks don't want to hear bug reports
about kernels built with that.  Try building with egcs 1.1.2 or gcc
2.7.2.3.

The libraries are doubtful, however.  The kernel uses it's own.

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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Ethan Benson

On 11/1/2000 Phil Brutsche wrote:


gcc 2.95.2?  It's likely.  The kernel folks don't want to hear bug reports
about kernels built with that.  Try building with egcs 1.1.2 or gcc
2.7.2.3.


that is not true anymore.  kernel developers DO want to hear bugs 
about 2.95 now that 2.2.14 is mostly 2.95 OK...



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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 On 11/1/2000 Phil Brutsche wrote:
 
 gcc 2.95.2?  It's likely.  The kernel folks don't want to hear bug reports
 about kernels built with that.  Try building with egcs 1.1.2 or gcc
 2.7.2.3.
 
 that is not true anymore.  kernel developers DO want to hear bugs 
 about 2.95 now that 2.2.14 is mostly 2.95 OK...
^^

Keyword mostly.

It still wouldn't hurt to check it with egcs 1.1.2 or gcc 2.7.2.3.  You
never know, this might be a part that's not 2.95.x safe.

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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Ethan Benson

On 11/1/2000 Phil Brutsche wrote:


Keyword mostly.

It still wouldn't hurt to check it with egcs 1.1.2 or gcc 2.7.2.3.  You
never know, this might be a part that's not 2.95.x safe.


yes obviously the way to test for a 2.95 bug is to compile with older 
compilers and see if the problem persists, but the point is 
developers are now saying you can use 2.95 (and SHOULD so that 
remaining problems can be found and fixed).   if nobody uses 2.95 
then the problems that remain will not get fixed.



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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread aphro
it is supposed to be but it seems to depend on the bIOS.

i have a i440BX Abit BP6, and when i got it, it saw all 256MB of ram, but
after a recent bios upgrade the system would only see 64MB unless i added
the append= thing in lilo.conf.  i was running for 2 days before i even
noticed it(i had to type free to see my mem otherwise maybe i'd go another
week :) ) odd stuff..this board isnt that great though, i also saw reports
of an even more recent bios upgrade for the BP6 that caused problems for
the linux kernel so it was yanked from abit's site(it probably caused
other problems too) kinda funny since it was released on dec 27, and had a
last mintue Y2k update. *doh!*

nate

On 11 Jan 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:

a.genk 2.2.14 only detects 64M out of 96M of my RAM. I thought this was fixed
a.genk in 2.2.x kernels. Comments?
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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 11 Jan 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:

 : 2.2.14 only detects 64M out of 96M of my RAM. I thought this was fixed
 : in 2.2.x kernels. Comments?

Do you own a Compaq?

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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Arcady Genkin
Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 11 Jan 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
 
  : 2.2.14 only detects 64M out of 96M of my RAM. I thought this was fixed
  : in 2.2.x kernels. Comments?
 
 Do you own a Compaq?

Nope. The mobo is an Abit BX6. The BIOS counts 96M at startup.
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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Arcady Genkin
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 11/1/2000 Phil Brutsche wrote:
 
 Keyword mostly.
 
 It still wouldn't hurt to check it with egcs 1.1.2 or gcc 2.7.2.3.  You
 never know, this might be a part that's not 2.95.x safe.
 
 yes obviously the way to test for a 2.95 bug is to compile with older 
 compilers and see if the problem persists, but the point is 
 developers are now saying you can use 2.95 (and SHOULD so that 
 remaining problems can be found and fixed).   if nobody uses 2.95 
 then the problems that remain will not get fixed.

I recompiled the kernel and all the modules with gcc-2.7.2.3. The
problem persists. Any further ideas?
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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
On Tue, 11 Jan, 2000 à 01:05:29AM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
 Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
  
   2.2.14 only detects 64M out of 96M of my RAM. I thought this was fixed
   in 2.2.x kernels. Comments?
  
  It tends to be fixed, but on some hardware there's nothing the kernel can
  do  human intervention is needed.
  
  I think you know what you need in /etc/lilo.conf :)
 
 Yes, but it doesn't work!!! I added append mem=96M, and the kernel
 still sees only 64. 8-/

It should be 'append mem=96M ' (without the '). See man lilo.conf

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Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Sean Johnson
Speaking of Compaqs, is there anyway to free the memory sucked up by the
onboard video card? A friend of mine put a new PCI video card into his
Compaq, and I noticed that it still was only using 56M, even though the
onboard video card was not being used.

Sean

Nathan E Norman wrote:
 
 On 11 Jan 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:
 
  : 2.2.14 only detects 64M out of 96M of my RAM. I thought this was fixed
  : in 2.2.x kernels. Comments?
 
 Do you own a Compaq?


Re: I thought 2.2.x should detect RAM 64

2000-01-11 Thread Jim B
Actually, shouldn't it be:

append=mem=96M


On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Laurent PICOULEAU wrote:

  Yes, but it doesn't work!!! I added append mem=96M, and the kernel
  still sees only 64. 8-/
 
 It should be 'append mem=96M ' (without the '). See man lilo.conf