Re: Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder

2007-03-05 Thread Ken Heard

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On 03/04/07 05:07, Ken Heard wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:


Testing your assertion now.


Ok, I created the "03/03/07 07:39" email, and then did:
File->"Send Later"

Icedove put the email in "Local Folders".Unsent, because there *is
no* Unsent folder in the "regular" (happens to be an IMAP account).


Yes, but for POP accounts -- at least mine -- there *is* an "Unsent
Messages", hence my confusion.


That *is* odd.


File->"Send Unsent Messages" successfully sent the message *and* put
the message in the "regular" Sent folder.


I also tested it after receiving your message.  I found that messages in
the "Unsent" folder in "Local Folders" did get sent on going on line
after answering positively when questioned whether I wanted such
messages sent.  Once sent, they were put in my POP account "Sent" folder.


Well that's good.


My opinion is that this is how Icedove was designed, and they
probably won't change it.


On you first point I wonder whether this design was deliberate.  Why
have a different procedure for different account types?


Tbird isn't well engineered?


I would call this "feature" a bug.  But it should be referred to
Mozilla, I suppose.  Are the "debranded" versions of Firefox,
Thunderbird and SeaMonkey (the "Ices") available for all Linux
distributions or are they unique to Debian?


The Ice* apps are Debian-only, but I understand that they track
closely to upstream.


As far as auto-sending email when you return from off-line, *that*
sounds like valid enhancement request (that should go thru Mozilla,
not Debian).


I think auto-sending is already possible, but I haven't checked.


Ken Heard


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Re: Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder

2007-03-04 Thread Ken Heard

Ron Johnson wrote:


Testing your assertion now.


Ok, I created the "03/03/07 07:39" email, and then did:
File->"Send Later"

Icedove put the email in "Local Folders".Unsent, because there *is
no* Unsent folder in the "regular" (happens to be an IMAP account).


Yes, but for POP accounts -- at least mine -- there *is* an "Unsent
Messages", hence my confusion.


File->"Send Unsent Messages" successfully sent the message *and* put
the message in the "regular" Sent folder.


I also tested it after receiving your message.  I found that messages in
the "Unsent" folder in "Local Folders" did get sent on going on line
after answering positively when questioned whether I wanted such
messages sent.  Once sent, they were put in my POP account "Sent" folder.


My opinion is that this is how Icedove was designed, and they
probably won't change it.


On you first point I wonder whether this design was deliberate.  Why
have a different procedure for different account types?

I would call this "feature" a bug.  But it should be referred to
Mozilla, I suppose.  Are the "debranded" versions of Firefox,
Thunderbird and SeaMonkey (the "Ices") available for all Linux
distributions or are they unique to Debian?


As far as auto-sending email when you return from off-line, *that*
sounds like valid enhancement request (that should go thru Mozilla,
not Debian).


I think auto-sending is already possible, but I haven't checked.


Ken Heard


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Re: Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder

2007-03-03 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/03/07 07:39, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 03/02/07 20:10, Ken Heard wrote:
>> When working off line in Icedove messages to be sent later are not saved
>> in the Unsent Messages folder of the e-mail account where the messages
>> are created, for later sending when back on line.
> 
>> Instead they are saved in the Unsent folder of the Local Folders
>> "account".  Consequently they are not sent when back on line.
> 
>> As these messages did not appear in my account's Sent folder after I
>> went on line, I thought they had disappeared into the ether -- most
>> disconcerting.  Subsequently I discovered by accident that when I
>> selected "Send later" after I composed them they went into the Local
>> Folders Unsent folder.
> 
>> I could find no option among Icedove's preferences to have "Send later"
>> messages saved in the account's Unsent Messages folder.  This bug should
>> be fixed.
> 
> Testing your assertion now.

Ok, I created the "03/03/07 07:39" email, and then did:
File->"Send Later"

Icedove put the email in "Local Folders".Unsent, because there *is
no* Unsent folder in the "regular" (happens to be an IMAP account).

File->"Send Unsent Messages" successfully sent the message *and* put
the message in the "regular" Sent folder.

My opinion is that this is how Icedove was designed, and they
probably won't change it.

As far as auto-sending email when you return from off-line, *that*
sounds like valid enhancement request (that should go thru Mozilla,
not Debian).

> 
>> Ken Heard
> 
> 
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Re: Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder

2007-03-03 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/02/07 20:10, Ken Heard wrote:
> When working off line in Icedove messages to be sent later are not saved
> in the Unsent Messages folder of the e-mail account where the messages
> are created, for later sending when back on line.
> 
> Instead they are saved in the Unsent folder of the Local Folders
> "account".  Consequently they are not sent when back on line.
> 
> As these messages did not appear in my account's Sent folder after I
> went on line, I thought they had disappeared into the ether -- most
> disconcerting.  Subsequently I discovered by accident that when I
> selected "Send later" after I composed them they went into the Local
> Folders Unsent folder.
> 
> I could find no option among Icedove's preferences to have "Send later"
> messages saved in the account's Unsent Messages folder.  This bug should
> be fixed.

Testing your assertion now.

> 
> Ken Heard
> 
> 

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Re: Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder

2007-03-03 Thread Ken Heard

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:


Is your account a POP account or IMAP?


POP

Regards,

Ken



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Re: Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder

2007-03-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 02:10:15AM +, Ken Heard wrote:
> When working off line in Icedove messages to be sent later are not saved
> in the Unsent Messages folder of the e-mail account where the messages
> are created, for later sending when back on line.
> 
> Instead they are saved in the Unsent folder of the Local Folders
> "account".  Consequently they are not sent when back on line.
> 
Is your account a POP account or IMAP?

Regards,

-Roberto

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Icedove does not save unsent messages to the Unsent Messages folder

2007-03-02 Thread Ken Heard

When working off line in Icedove messages to be sent later are not saved
in the Unsent Messages folder of the e-mail account where the messages
are created, for later sending when back on line.

Instead they are saved in the Unsent folder of the Local Folders
"account".  Consequently they are not sent when back on line.

As these messages did not appear in my account's Sent folder after I
went on line, I thought they had disappeared into the ether -- most
disconcerting.  Subsequently I discovered by accident that when I
selected "Send later" after I composed them they went into the Local
Folders Unsent folder.

I could find no option among Icedove's preferences to have "Send later"
messages saved in the account's Unsent Messages folder.  This bug should
be fixed.

Ken Heard


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