Re: Re: Iceweasel woes
I went to the message you linked and then the site mentioned and downloaded a large /etc/hosts file that seems to send most of what was eating up cpu & memory to the bit bucket. Huge difference in FF response time, no hard drive grinding. Top now shows around 10% cpu usage and 80% memory. Thank you very much,Mike
Re: Re: Iceweasel woes
Re: Iceweasel woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 04:31:32PM -0800, cgi...@surfnaked.ca wrote: [...] > The Internet is like a big city - there are lots of bright lights > and excitement, but also dark alleys down which the unwary get > mugged. with the difference that on the internet, it's the "bright lights" where you get systematically mugged. Some of the dark alleys are safe, some not. Cheers - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAloCwXYACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYUSwCfYL1a92AqGbTp88bNrAKRYqQ5 qWcAnRy3bg1yHMsjFbl+6R3zt3/jeP/5 =mB7j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Iceweasel woes
Quoting deloptes: RRRoy BBBean wrote: Now, I have to temporarily enable between 20 and 200 domains every time I do anything. I can't imagine what the www will be like in another 10 years... indeed it changed negatively in the past 10-15y. it is now virtually impossible to find useful information - only thing helps that google adapts to your behavior and can match what you would like to find ... but after they change this and start controlling the output (like youtube did few months ago), it will be over - we'll have to start from scratch ... perhaps a new version of the dark net. Who would have thought that when Big Brother finally arrived, it would be not the government, but Google? I boycott Google as much as possible. For a search engine I use DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com), which proudly proclaims that it doesn't track you. You can get satellite views from https://zoom.earth. And so on. And when I'm not surfing the web, my browser (Seamonkey, see a previous message) is shut down. The Internet is like a big city - there are lots of bright lights and excitement, but also dark alleys down which the unwary get mugged. -- char...@buygenesis.com (Charlie Gibbs)
Re: Iceweasel woes
On 11/7/17, RRRoy BBBeanwrote: >> It has problems, especially with scripts. There are apparently simple >> pages which will eat a third of a CPU, continuously. > > In the past, I have foolishly let my computer sit overnight, with FF > open to a site which (it turned out, on later examination) continuously > cycled video ads. I noticed the next morning that the room was 20 > degrees Fahrenheit warmer than normal, and the computer had not gone to > sleep as it should have. The processor had been maxed out all night > long, loading and playing video ads. This converted my low-powered > laptop computer into a very effective little heating unit. > > Since then, I have started using Adblock and Noscript together, and > shutting down FF when not actively using it, which avoids this > "heating" problem. > > Now, I have to temporarily enable between 20 and 200 domains every time > I do anything. I can't imagine what the www will be like in another 10 > years... CTRL+Tab, CTRL+R all the way down the line BEFORE I log onto dialup Internet. Gets old when there's (literally) 300, 350 pages open... AGAIN. Even whichever one lets you refresh all pages at one time doesn't really seem to help (me) at startup. Some will still start trying to load and contact their mothership after I perform that refresh all step. Granted some of that will have to do with cookie refresh. BUT that should NOT happen until **I** manually bring that cookie's webpage back up live when **I** am ready to view it again. Another half detail here, I've forgotten which one but one browser gives us the opportunity to tell website apps that, NO, they may NOT continue running in the background on our computers AFTER we close our browsers down. I haven't seen that toggle switch in a few months, but it does feel like I've seen it in at least the last year. Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape *
Re: Iceweasel woes
RRRoy BBBean wrote: > Now, I have to temporarily enable between 20 and 200 domains every time > I do anything. I can't imagine what the www will be like in another 10 > years... indeed it changed negatively in the past 10-15y. it is now virtually impossible to find useful information - only thing helps that google adapts to your behavior and can match what you would like to find ... but after they change this and start controlling the output (like youtube did few months ago), it will be over - we'll have to start from scratch ... perhaps a new version of the dark net. regards
Re: Iceweasel woes
> It has problems, especially with scripts. There are apparently simple > pages which will eat a third of a CPU, continuously. In the past, I have foolishly let my computer sit overnight, with FF open to a site which (it turned out, on later examination) continuously cycled video ads. I noticed the next morning that the room was 20 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than normal, and the computer had not gone to sleep as it should have. The processor had been maxed out all night long, loading and playing video ads. This converted my low-powered laptop computer into a very effective little heating unit. Since then, I have started using Adblock and Noscript together, and shutting down FF when not actively using it, which avoids this "heating" problem. Now, I have to temporarily enable between 20 and 200 domains every time I do anything. I can't imagine what the www will be like in another 10 years...
Re: Iceweasel woes
On Tue 07 Nov 2017 at 08:34:44 (-0800), Mike McClain wrote: > I run an older PC, Pentium3 w/ 512M memory which does everything I > need but Iceweasel is killing me since the last couple of upgrades. > > It's become such a memory hog that it ties up the system for minutes > at a time. > > How can I backup to the version of a couple of months ago? Same here, though a lot depends on what else you're using the system for, and whether you've been running another program that needs lot of memory. The single thing that's made most difference for me is the link in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/10/msg00386.html (to which the operaphiles have not responded). It probably makes no difference to rendering a page like itself, but it cuts a lot of the downloading of stupid bits of code that bring the elderly processor to its knees. Cheers, David.
Re: Iceweasel woes
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 08:34:44 -0800 Mike McClainwrote: > I run an older PC, Pentium3 w/ 512M memory which does everything I > need but Iceweasel is killing me since the last couple of upgrades. > > It's become such a memory hog that it ties up the system for minutes > at a time. > It has problems, especially with scripts. There are apparently simple pages which will eat a third of a CPU, continuously. > How can I backup to the version of a couple of months ago? > Do you always need it? It is very powerful and versatile, but the other side of that coin is its size and sluggishness. Would a lighter weight browser suit most of your needs? I keep Midori around (and Konqueror, but that has plenty of baggage) and that will deal with most sites. -- Joe
Re: Iceweasel woes
On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 08:34:44AM -0800, Mike McClain wrote: > I run an older PC, Pentium3 w/ 512M memory which does everything I > need but Iceweasel is killing me since the last couple of upgrades. > > It's become such a memory hog that it ties up the system for minutes > at a time. > > How can I backup to the version of a couple of months ago? > You can always download an upstream distribution. If you want a Debian package of a prior version, however, then the snapshot [0] service is your best bet. Just remember that old packages may have exploitable vulnerabilities, regardless of the source of the package. Regards, -Roberto [0] http://snapshot.debian.org/ -- Roberto C. Sánchez
Iceweasel woes
I run an older PC, Pentium3 w/ 512M memory which does everything I need but Iceweasel is killing me since the last couple of upgrades. It's become such a memory hog that it ties up the system for minutes at a time. How can I backup to the version of a couple of months ago? Thanks, Mike McClain -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine