Re: Ideal Debian distro for Asus Notebook?
On 9/23/14, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 20 sep 14, 11:53:04, Gary Dale wrote: I recommend Debian/Testing (Jessie) which has been quite stable in use and is more up to date than Debian/Stable (Wheezy). You can also try the latest Linux Mint distribution, which is Debian-based and quite popular. Are you sure it's a good idea to recommend testing to someone new to Debian? Stable is probably a much better entry point. Ditto.. Stable. I resemble Andrei's observation.. I've made comments before that I've been playing with computers 20 years now, BUT my cognition is notably degenerating to where I have many a day that I'm approaching computers with the mental grasp of a newbie.. I'm working a security issue right now that is the second time the exact same issue has come up in less than a month. Only thing I did this time was the same thing any newbie would potentially do at some point: use their fave package manager to download APT Seconds before I read your comment, Andrei, I was sitting here thinking I cannot imagine someone's grandparents trying to work through this issue I'm having FOR A SECOND TIME in the same month.. A person truly new to computers in general, if not just Debian, using testing, a release where it is widely advocated it IS going to #FAIL at some point and should NOT be used on do-or-die machines, even by the more tech savvy? *hm* :) That warning found across the Net poses a question: Does the user have a dependable Internet connected fallback machine sitting right there within reach? A secondary question comes to mind: Being honest with oneself, what's the intended user's patience, tolerance, stress level like? :) *I guess*.. a new user could try downloading testing first... If it works, cool beans. If it doesn't work, format and install stable. *I guess* :) BUT AGAIN... Just like what's happened to me here, first time a new user answers the call to upgrade anything on a functioning testing install, that necessary, often security-minded task could potentially cause the user's machine to immediately become frozen in time, if not completely inoperable, THAT second. As always, YMMV. :) Cindy PS Just as a general FYI, there's a Debian list called debian-laptop [1]. In verifying the list name, I just encountered a member's email that repeats what I was thinking about it. It's a very low traffic list, [2] but there _are_ people monitoring it.. :) [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2014/07/msg5.html -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * I comment, therefore I am (procrastinating tracking an ever evasive public key) * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAO1P-kDQjmXtSUuh+YDD48AhCNBEkOpc9V=9gvtu_szglbg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Ideal Debian distro for Asus Notebook?
On 09/24/2014 09:57 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 9/23/14, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 20 sep 14, 11:53:04, Gary Dale wrote: I recommend Debian/Testing (Jessie) which has been quite stable in use and is more up to date than Debian/Stable (Wheezy). You can also try the latest Linux Mint distribution, which is Debian-based and quite popular. Are you sure it's a good idea to recommend testing to someone new to Debian? Stable is probably a much better entry point. Ditto.. Stable. I resemble Andrei's observation.. I've made comments before that I've been playing with computers 20 years now, BUT my cognition is notably degenerating to where I have many a day that I'm approaching computers with the mental grasp of a newbie.. I'm working a security issue right now that is the second time the exact same issue has come up in less than a month. Only thing I did this time was the same thing any newbie would potentially do at some point: use their fave package manager to download APT Seconds before I read your comment, Andrei, I was sitting here thinking I cannot imagine someone's grandparents trying to work through this issue I'm having FOR A SECOND TIME in the same month.. A person truly new to computers in general, if not just Debian, using testing, a release where it is widely advocated it IS going to #FAIL at some point and should NOT be used on do-or-die machines, even by the more tech savvy? *hm* :) That warning found across the Net poses a question: Does the user have a dependable Internet connected fallback machine sitting right there within reach? A secondary question comes to mind: Being honest with oneself, what's the intended user's patience, tolerance, stress level like? :) *I guess*.. a new user could try downloading testing first... If it works, cool beans. If it doesn't work, format and install stable. *I guess* :) BUT AGAIN... Just like what's happened to me here, first time a new user answers the call to upgrade anything on a functioning testing install, that necessary, often security-minded task could potentially cause the user's machine to immediately become frozen in time, if not completely inoperable, THAT second. As always, YMMV. :) I run Jessie, freshly installed, and I have zero complaints, so far. I also have Ubuntu 14.10 on another partition as a fall-back, JUST IN CASE. Sid is where the Wild Things Are. I avoid that as Fedora would often get ahead of itself to the point of crashing and burning. And, with Fedora, if your issue wasn't in the gun-sights of Enterprise, you could forget it being resolved in a timely fashion. That is when I had to bail from it. But, both Sid and Fedora are fun for those who love being on the cutting (and dangerous) edges! YMMV! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54232d87.6090...@gmail.com
Re: Ideal Debian distro for Asus Notebook?
On Sb, 20 sep 14, 11:53:04, Gary Dale wrote: This is a reasonably powerful notebook that is probably running Windows, not MSDOS. Well, at least here there are quite a few laptops for sale with only FreeDOS ;) Any version of Linux will probably run fairly well on it. It doesn't use any strange hardware so things should just work. I recommend Debian/Testing (Jessie) which has been quite stable in use and is more up to date than Debian/Stable (Wheezy). You can also try the latest Linux Mint distribution, which is Debian-based and quite popular. Are you sure it's a good idea to recommend testing to someone new to Debian? Stable is probably a much better entry point. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Ideal Debian distro for Asus Notebook?
Dear sir/Madam, I have an Asus Notebook ,Model: X550L with just MSDOS on it. My intention was to install Linux Debian OS on it! I have read the linux-on-laptops.com/(this particular model was not listed under Asus) and need your help in selecting the Debian distro'! I have been using an Debian distro MX-14 Symbiosis for 6 months,so not a total newbie! Thanks and regards, Dr.Sreedhav *Thinking IS Wanting-- UG KRISHNAMURTHI (DEPARTED IN 2007).FOR MORE INFO' ON THIS QUOTE--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrfQwJcHj8U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrfQwJcHj8U*
Re: Ideal Debian distro for Asus Notebook?
On 20/09/14 11:13 AM, Sreedhav Sistla wrote: Dear sir/Madam, I have an Asus Notebook ,Model: X550L with just MSDOS on it. My intention was to install Linux Debian OS on it! I have read the linux-on-laptops.com/(this http://linux-on-laptops.com/%28this particular model was not listed under Asus) and need your help in selecting the Debian distro'! I have been using an Debian distro MX-14 Symbiosis for 6 months,so not a total newbie! Thanks and regards, Dr.Sreedhav **Thinking IS Wanting-- UG KRISHNAMURTHI (DEPARTED IN 2007).FOR MORE INFO' ON THIS QUOTE--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrfQwJcHj8U** This is a reasonably powerful notebook that is probably running Windows, not MSDOS. Any version of Linux will probably run fairly well on it. It doesn't use any strange hardware so things should just work. I recommend Debian/Testing (Jessie) which has been quite stable in use and is more up to date than Debian/Stable (Wheezy). You can also try the latest Linux Mint distribution, which is Debian-based and quite popular. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/541da2e0.9040...@torfree.net
