Re: Instability in Wheezy system

2012-07-27 Thread Stephen Allen
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:22:23PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
 I can say that Chrome and Chromium themselves very unstable on all
 my systems.

Not true on any of my boxen. Running Chromium from Debian SID.


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Re: Instability in Wheezy system

2012-07-27 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 27 July 2012 14:35, Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:22:23PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
 I can say that Chrome and Chromium themselves very unstable on all
 my systems.

 Not true on any of my boxen. Running Chromium from Debian SID.


Nor here with Chrome, last three weeks or so..



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Instability in Wheezy system

2012-07-26 Thread Carl Fink
I report a problem I experienced.

I have a homebrew tower built around the AMD FX-8120 running Wheezy. 16 GB
of RAM, an 80 GB SSD for the OS and a 2 TB spinning disk drive for data.

Today I had a 30 minute Skype call. (2.2 client) After I hung up, I clicked
on a message in my GMail box in Chromium. I started getting the Stopped
responding, click Kill or Wait dialog.

Killed Chromium, reloaded, tried again. Same.

Loaded Super Tux Kart. It drew its window but didn't actually load any karts
or tracks, and froze with an empty frame.

Ran htop in a terminal, except it never ran.

Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a VT. htop as root froze there, too.

In VT2, ps a froze.

In VT3, nothing interesting in the logs.

Regular top would run but showed nothing useful.

I ran reboot. The shutdown process froze at deactivating BlueTooth.

I had to use the mechanical reset button. Linux boxes should never need
mechanical reset.

Ideas?
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Re: Instability in Wheezy system

2012-07-26 Thread Mark Allums

On 7/26/2012 9:37 PM, Carl Fink wrote:

I report a problem I experienced.

I have a homebrew tower built around the AMD FX-8120 running Wheezy. 16 GB
of RAM, an 80 GB SSD for the OS and a 2 TB spinning disk drive for data.

Today I had a 30 minute Skype call. (2.2 client) After I hung up, I clicked
on a message in my GMail box in Chromium. I started getting the Stopped
responding, click Kill or Wait dialog.

Killed Chromium, reloaded, tried again. Same.

Loaded Super Tux Kart. It drew its window but didn't actually load any karts
or tracks, and froze with an empty frame.

Ran htop in a terminal, except it never ran.

Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a VT. htop as root froze there, too.

In VT2, ps a froze.

In VT3, nothing interesting in the logs.

Regular top would run but showed nothing useful.

I ran reboot. The shutdown process froze at deactivating BlueTooth.

I had to use the mechanical reset button. Linux boxes should never need
mechanical reset.

Ideas?



I can say that Chrome and Chromium themselves very unstable on all my 
systems.





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Re: Instability in Wheezy system

2012-07-26 Thread Gary Dale

On 26/07/12 10:37 PM, Carl Fink wrote:

I report a problem I experienced.

I have a homebrew tower built around the AMD FX-8120 running Wheezy. 16 GB
of RAM, an 80 GB SSD for the OS and a 2 TB spinning disk drive for data.

Today I had a 30 minute Skype call. (2.2 client) After I hung up, I clicked
on a message in my GMail box in Chromium. I started getting the Stopped
responding, click Kill or Wait dialog.

Killed Chromium, reloaded, tried again. Same.

Loaded Super Tux Kart. It drew its window but didn't actually load any karts
or tracks, and froze with an empty frame.

Ran htop in a terminal, except it never ran.

Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a VT. htop as root froze there, too.

In VT2, ps a froze.

In VT3, nothing interesting in the logs.

Regular top would run but showed nothing useful.

I ran reboot. The shutdown process froze at deactivating BlueTooth.

I had to use the mechanical reset button. Linux boxes should never need
mechanical reset.

Ideas?

Have you run memtest86+?

Another problem could be your motherboard. Have you tried booting from a 
(different distro) live CD to see if the problem occurs on it too?



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Re: Instability in Wheezy system

2012-07-26 Thread Carl Fink
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:34:22PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:

 Have you run memtest86+?

No. Would this specific problem (presumably with the process table) be
characteristic of a RAM problem?
 
 Another problem could be your motherboard. Have you tried booting
 from a (different distro) live CD to see if the problem occurs on it
 too?

It's only happened once, total.
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Re: Instability in Wheezy system

2012-07-26 Thread Gary Dale

On 26/07/12 11:40 PM, Carl Fink wrote:

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:34:22PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:


Have you run memtest86+?

No. Would this specific problem (presumably with the process table) be
characteristic of a RAM problem?
Could happen. It's always worth checking. I've seen memory issues cause 
all kinds of weird problems. I've also seen a lot of memory problems 
lately. In fact, I'm running tests on new stick I got that doesn't seem 
to play nice with the existing stick in a system.


It was a warranty replacement on another stick that went bad. Both are 
the same model number but this new one seems to need a different BIOS 
setting. The system actually booted and ran fine, but I decided to run 
memtest86+ on it and was shocked to receive tens of thousands of errors.


Conversely, two other systems I look after were constantly acting up 
with just a few memory errors reported by memtest.





Another problem could be your motherboard. Have you tried booting
from a (different distro) live CD to see if the problem occurs on it
too?

It's only happened once, total.

If it's not repeatable, then you can't tell if you've fixed it.


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