Re: Installing Lenny -- how to deal with expired repo signing keys?

[Rick Thomas]

On Sep 10, 2016, at 3:41 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater  
wrote:
> 
> Download DVD1. Install a minimum system from it (if it has enough for you, 
> build the whole system). In fact, the netinst will work and produce a 
> _really_ minimal base system if you don't add a network mirror.
> 
> Use apt-key add to add the expired keys if you must.
> 
> Install whatever you need.
> 
> At this point, I'd suggest doing this _only_ in a virtual machine to start 
> with
> before doing this for real on the machine you intend to use long-term.
> 
> Unless this is an absolutely "must do this on Lenny, nothing later will ever 
> work
> and there's bespoke software that we must use and it must be on a real 
> physical 
> machine" it is probably worth moving this to a VM at some point / moving to a 
> later
> version — given that Wheezy LTS expires in 2018 (that's current oldstable) 
> and we'll
> be releasing Debian 9 early next year at which point you'd be three major 
> versions
> behind.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> All the best,
> 
> AndyC

Thanks Andy.  That worked perfectly!

See below for a full explanation (TL;DNR)

What I needed to do was unbrick a Marvel OpenRD/Ultimate machine.  But the 
current (Jessie/Stretch) version of the openocd package doesn’t talk to the USB 
serial/JTAG interface.  I’ll be submitting a bugreport for that.

When all was said and done, Lenny was too far back (openocd would talk to the 
device, but it didn’t have any config files for OpenRD).  What I really needed 
was Squeeze.

So this is what I did:

  Download and burn the squeeze DVD-1.

  Use it to install a minimal Squeeze on a spare disk in an otherwise unused 
Windows PC.  If I didn’t have the PC available, I probably would have used a 
VM, as you suggested.

  Follow the unbricking directions at
https://www.newit.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2835.0
  and then restore the boot-loader environment as described at
https://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/openrd/install/

Big thanks! to Malcolm and James at NewIT and Debian’s own Martin Michlmayr for 
clear and straightforward instruction on the various parts of this process.

Happy ending: My OpenRD/Ultimate is back from zombie-land and feeling fine!

Enjoy!
Rick

Re: Installing Lenny -- how to deal with expired repo signing keys?

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 10:05:13PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> It's a long story, but I need to install a fresh-out-of-the-box Debian amd64
> Lenny system.
> 
> I found ftp.us.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/ which has installer images
> for old Debian releases, including Lenny.  The README file says I need to
> use
> deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib
> for the sources.list entry.
> 
> This works OK when I boot a l"live" cd, though it complains about the repo
> keys being expired and requires me to type "Yes" if I want to ignore that
> and install packages anyway.
> 
> So my first question is: Is there something I can do in apt preferences
> somewhere that will make it accept the expired keys by default?
> 
> After some experimentation with my "live" system, I decided that I really
> needed a fully installed system that didn't loose all my configuration stuff
> on reboots.
> 
> So I downloaded a "netinst" CD and tried to install using it.  Of course, I
> had to give it the archive repo URL manually (netinst isn't really happy
> without a network repo).  It accepted that but then it appeared to hang.
> Looking at the -F4 screen revealed that it was asking the same question
> about whether I wanted to accept the expired repo keys, but this time there
> was no way to give it the required "Yes" answer.  Or at least no way that I
> could see.
> 
> So my second question is: Does anybody know how to give it the necessary
> answer?  Or, failing that somehing I can do in the -F2 screen that will
> prevent it from asking?
> 
> Thanks! in advance,
> 
> Rick

Download DVD1. Install a minimum system from it (if it has enough for you, 
build the whole system). In fact, the netinst will work and produce a 
_really_ minimal base system if you don't add a network mirror.

Use apt-key add to add the expired keys if you must.

Install whatever you need.

At this point, I'd suggest doing this _only_ in a virtual machine to start with
before doing this for real on the machine you intentd to use long-term.

Unless this is an absolutely "must do this on Lenny, nothing later will ever 
work
and there's bespoke software that we must use and it must be on a real physical 
machine" it is probably worth moving this to a VM at some point / moving to a 
later
version - given that Wheezy LTS expires in 2018 (that's current oldstable) and 
we'll
be releasing Debian 9 early next year at which point you'd be three major 
versions
behind.

HTH,

All the best,

AndyC

Installing Lenny -- how to deal with expired repo signing keys?

[Rick Thomas]

It's a long story, but I need to install a fresh-out-of-the-box Debian 
amd64 Lenny system.


I found ftp.us.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/ which has installer 
images for old Debian releases, including Lenny.  The README file says I 
need to use

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib
for the sources.list entry.

This works OK when I boot a l"live" cd, though it complains about the 
repo keys being expired and requires me to type "Yes" if I want to 
ignore that and install packages anyway.


So my first question is: Is there something I can do in apt preferences 
somewhere that will make it accept the expired keys by default?


After some experimentation with my "live" system, I decided that I 
really needed a fully installed system that didn't loose all my 
configuration stuff on reboots.


So I downloaded a "netinst" CD and tried to install using it.  Of 
course, I had to give it the archive repo URL manually (netinst isn't 
really happy without a network repo).  It accepted that but then it 
appeared to hang.  Looking at the -F4 screen revealed that it was 
asking the same question about whether I wanted to accept the expired 
repo keys, but this time there was no way to give it the required "Yes" 
answer.  Or at least no way that I could see.


So my second question is: Does anybody know how to give it the necessary 
answer?  Or, failing that somehing I can do in the -F2 screen that 
will prevent it from asking?


Thanks! in advance,

Rick

installing lenny package

[berenger . morel]

Hi.

We have the need at work to install a package on a lenny Debian.

I know that it's quite old ( older than oldstable btw! ) but I only 
learned it's existence at the moment. To do things quickly, we have to 
find an old copy of the packages. Maybe there is an old iso of lenny 
somewhere?



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Re: installing lenny package

[Reco]

Hi.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 05:59:20PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
 Hi.
 
 We have the need at work to install a package on a lenny Debian.
 
 I know that it's quite old ( older than oldstable btw! ) but I only
 learned it's existence at the moment. To do things quickly, we have
 to find an old copy of the packages. Maybe there is an old iso of
 lenny somewhere?

[1] should help you with this unnamed package and it's dependencies.

[1] http://archive.debian.org/

Reco


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Re: installing lenny package

[berenger . morel]

Le 14.04.2014 18:08, Reco a écrit :

Hi.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 05:59:20PM +0200,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

Hi.

We have the need at work to install a package on a lenny Debian.

I know that it's quite old ( older than oldstable btw! ) but I only
learned it's existence at the moment. To do things quickly, we have
to find an old copy of the packages. Maybe there is an old iso of
lenny somewhere?


[1] should help you with this unnamed package and it's dependencies.

[1] http://archive.debian.org/

Reco


Thanks a lot, it seems that it works. At least, the update is in 
progress.


The package my colleague needs is iptraf, from lenny.


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Re: installing lenny package

[Chris Angelico]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:20 AM,  berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
 The package my colleague needs is iptraf, from lenny.

Is it the same as iptraf in Wheezy?

https://packages.debian.org/stable/net/iptraf

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Re: installing lenny package

[berenger . morel]

Le 14.04.2014 18:23, Chris Angelico a écrit :
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:20 AM,  berenger.mo...@neutralite.org 
wrote:

The package my colleague needs is iptraf, from lenny.


Is it the same as iptraf in Wheezy?

https://packages.debian.org/stable/net/iptraf

ChrisA


It seems yes, there are only 2 debian versions between them.
But dependencies' versions are not the same too, so... but the easier 
is, for now, to install the Lenny version, we will take a look about how 
to do a reliable upgrade ( this stuff is still in production ) later.



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Installing Lenny on PowerMac?

[Rick Thomas]

I have a temporary need to install Lenny on a PowerMac G4 so I can run  
some tests on a fresh installation for a user who is unable (for  
various reasons) to upgrade to Squeeze at this time.


When I run the netinst installer CD all seems well until it wants to  
setup sources.list.  Then it dies claiming to be unable to determine  
code-name for release. (I don't remember the exact wording of the  
error message, but the intent is clear.)


Is there a work-around for this that would allow me to do my testing?

Would I have better luck with a DVD, where I wouldn't need to get  
anything from the network mirrors until after the installation is  
complete?


Thanks!

Rick


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Re: Installing Lenny on PowerMac?

[Philipp Kern]

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 04:10:29PM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote:
 Would I have better luck with a DVD, where I wouldn't need to get
 anything from the network mirrors until after the installation is
 complete?

Yes.

Kind regards
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Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Rob Owens]

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:48:41AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 April 2010 22:11:00 Rob Owens wrote:
  My understanding is that live-helper must build the kernel so that
  certain modules necessary to the live system get included.  I confess
  that I don't completely understand that answer, but it's what I was told
  by the developer.
 
 You should look into the live-helper configuration and adjust where it gets 
 the kernel source and any (extra?) patches it applies.  It should be able to 
 work with kernel sources provided from lenny-backports with the proper 
 configuration, since it already works with both Lenny and Squeeze kernel 
 sources.  The bpo kernels are not packaged significantly differently.
 
 If live-helper doesn't have any relevant configuration, looking into how it 
 receives, patches, compiles, and packages the kernel should give you some 
 insight into a work-around.  (e.g. repackaging the bpo kernel package to have 
 the same package name but a higher version than the Lenny kernel package.)

Thanks.  I think this is the approach I'm going to take.  I just tried
install barebones Squeeze in Virtualbox, and I'm running into packaging
problems when I try to install certain software from Lenny (LXDE and
apt-show-versions, for example).

-Rob


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Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Rob Owens]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 08:17:57PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
 Rob Owens wrote:

 I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the
 infrequent updates.  But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel
 in order for wifi to work.  I've been told by the Debian-Live developer
 that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd
 be able to use a kernel from backports.org).



 What you need is Debian Backports  
 www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions You will find your  
 kernel upgrade there, plus you will need to add linux-firmware for the  
 new kernel, both the kernel and firmware are in the backports.

I can't use backports, according to the developer of debian-live.  That
was the first thing I tried, but it didn't work.

-Rob


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Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 28 April 2010 20:35:29 Rob Owens wrote:
 If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny
 repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf,
 can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment
 from the Lenny repos?  (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely).

This type of setup is neither tested nor supported.  Since a number of library 
transitions have already gone into Squeeze, I would expect issues, though I 
don't know what.
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Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 28 April 2010 22:11:00 Rob Owens wrote:
 My understanding is that live-helper must build the kernel so that
 certain modules necessary to the live system get included.  I confess
 that I don't completely understand that answer, but it's what I was told
 by the developer.

You should look into the live-helper configuration and adjust where it gets 
the kernel source and any (extra?) patches it applies.  It should be able to 
work with kernel sources provided from lenny-backports with the proper 
configuration, since it already works with both Lenny and Squeeze kernel 
sources.  The bpo kernels are not packaged significantly differently.

If live-helper doesn't have any relevant configuration, looking into how it 
receives, patches, compiles, and packages the kernel should give you some 
insight into a work-around.  (e.g. repackaging the bpo kernel package to have 
the same package name but a higher version than the Lenny kernel package.)
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Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Jimmy Johnson]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Wednesday 28 April 2010 20:35:29 Rob Owens wrote:

If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny
repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf,
can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment
from the Lenny repos?  (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely).



This type of setup is neither tested nor supported.  Since a number of library 
transitions have already gone into Squeeze, I would expect issues, though I 
don't know what.



I'm using the Squeeze+KDE4 version of Debian Live installed and it seems
to be Lenny upgraded to Squeeze, it's definitely broken because the
weather widgets will not config, I've seen the problem before on every
Lenny upgrade and it's the only problem I can find, on that system I've
been able to upgrade the kernel with no problem.

I would not recommend Debian Live to anyone looking for a usable system.
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installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Rob Owens]

If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny
repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf,
can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment
from the Lenny repos?  (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely).

Reason:

I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the
infrequent updates.  But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel
in order for wifi to work.  I've been told by the Debian-Live developer
that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd
be able to use a kernel from backports.org).

-Rob


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Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Greg Madden]

On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:35:29 pm Rob Owens wrote:
 If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny
 repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf,
 can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment
 from the Lenny repos?  (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely).

 Reason:

 I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the
 infrequent updates.  But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel
 in order for wifi to work.  I've been told by the Debian-Live developer
 that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd
 be able to use a kernel from backports.org).

 -Rob

Can you use one of these ?

http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/

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Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Greg Madden]

On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:35:29 pm Rob Owens wrote:
 If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny
 repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf,
 can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment
 from the Lenny repos?  (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely).

 Reason:

 I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the
 infrequent updates.  But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel
 in order for wifi to work.  I've been told by the Debian-Live developer
 that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd
 be able to use a kernel from backports.org).

 -Rob

Can you use one of these ?

http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/


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Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Rob Owens]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 06:02:18PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:35:29 pm Rob Owens wrote:
  If I were to install a bare-bones Squeeze system, then add Lenny
  repositories and declare Lenny to be the Default-Release in apt.conf,
  can I expect to have many problems installing a full desktop environment
  from the Lenny repos?  (Gnome, LXDE, or Fluxbox, most likely).
 
  Reason:
 
  I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the
  infrequent updates.  But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel
  in order for wifi to work.  I've been told by the Debian-Live developer
  that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd
  be able to use a kernel from backports.org).
 
  -Rob
 
 Can you use one of these ?
 
 http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
 
Thanks for the feedback.  Unfortunately, I don't think I can use those.
My understanding is that live-helper must build the kernel so that
certain modules necessary to the live system get included.  I confess
that I don't completely understand that answer, but it's what I was told
by the developer.

Keep in mind that I'm not trying to do a traditional install of Debian
onto a USB flash drive.  I'm trying to install a live system, which is
different because it is designed to be run on many different computers
(like a Knoppix CD, but it's a straight Debian system).

-Rob


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Re: installing Lenny packages in Squeeze

[Jimmy Johnson]

Rob Owens wrote:


I use a Debian-Live USB and I like to run Lenny because of the
infrequent updates.  But one of my laptops requires the Squeeze kernel
in order for wifi to work.  I've been told by the Debian-Live developer
that I cannot install alternate kernels on my live system (otherwise I'd
be able to use a kernel from backports.org).




What you need is Debian Backports 
www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions You will find your 
kernel upgrade there, plus you will need to add linux-firmware for the 
new kernel, both the kernel and firmware are in the backports.

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Installing Lenny using usb stick

[Siju George]

Hi,

I tried to put the debian Lenny ISO image in a Usb stick using.

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

But the installation shows error mounting CDROM.
I dont have a cdrom.

Where do I get usb install images for lenny and how do I write it to
the USB drive?

Thanks

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Re: Installing Lenny using usb stick

[Jochen Schulz]

Siju George:
 
 Where do I get usb install images for lenny and how do I write it to
 the USB drive?

In the installation manual. :)

Wait, lmgtfy:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en

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Re: Installing Lenny using usb stick

[Siju George]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote:
 Siju George:

 Where do I get usb install images for lenny and how do I write it to
 the USB drive?

 In the installation manual. :)

 Wait, lmgtfy:
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en


Thanks jochen :-)

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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Chris Bannister]

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:05:57PM +0200, Bernard wrote:
 
 Next I will ask for how to replace GNOME with fvwm...


GNOME is a desktop environment, fvwm is a window manager
That is you can use fvwm as a replacement for the window manager
provided by GNOME (sorry, don't know what GNOME uses.) or you can just
use fvwm with no desktop environment.

Have a look at fvwm-crystal and fvwm-themes. Aslo fvwm has a mailing
list, and a wiki, and has some screenshots at http://fvwm.org

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problem installing Lenny

[Bernard]

Hi there,

Since I was unable to recompile my old kernel 2.6.20 under Debian Sarge,
I decided to install Lenny. Unable to find a way to just upgrade (there
has been Etch in between), I just saved directories and installed from
the iso image 

debian-502a-i386-netinst.iso

I choose somewhat automated install. I left partitions like they were
under Sarge, or, if I did change something at that point, I can't
exactly remember what. I must say that the partitioning menu seemed very
confusing, but I admit that I knew very little about my raid1 system.

In any case, the Lenny install that I now get, shows defaults. 
mdadm monitoring keeps sending mails at each boot :

'A degradated event has been detected on md device /dev/md0
P.S. The /proc/mdstat file currently contains the following :

Personalities: [raid 1]

md1: active raid 1 sda2[0] sdb2[1]
67874550 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md0: active raid 1 sda1[0]
497856 blocks [2/1] [U_]

unused devices : none
'

a 'df' does confirms the diagnostic above : if md1 is OK with two
mirrored partitions sda2 and sdb2, md0 only has sda1, while there was
sda1 and sdb1 on my former Sarge system.

Ever since I detected such anomaly, I re-installed once more, but I must
have missed something on the partitioning menu, and I have not found
what I should change there.

Thanks in advance for your help.



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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Bernard wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Since I was unable to recompile my old kernel 2.6.20 under Debian Sarge,
 I decided to install Lenny. Unable to find a way to just upgrade (there
 has been Etch in between), 

Why not just upgrade to etch (aka 'oldstable'), followed by an upgrade
to lenny?

I just saved directories and installed from
 the iso image 
 
 debian-502a-i386-netinst.iso
 
 I choose somewhat automated install. I left partitions like they were
 under Sarge, or, if I did change something at that point, I can't
 exactly remember what. I must say that the partitioning menu seemed very
 confusing, but I admit that I knew very little about my raid1 system.

The installation guide [1] contain a very informative section on
partitioning.

[1] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition

 In any case, the Lenny install that I now get, shows defaults. 
 mdadm monitoring keeps sending mails at each boot :
 
 'A degradated event has been detected on md device /dev/md0
 P.S. The /proc/mdstat file currently contains the following :
 
 Personalities: [raid 1]
 
 md1: active raid 1 sda2[0] sdb2[1]
 67874550 blocks [2/2] [UU]
 
 md0: active raid 1 sda1[0]
 497856 blocks [2/1] [U_]
 
 unused devices : none
 '

I guess that you just have to add sdb1 to your raid md0. Check the
output of 'mdadm --detail /dev/md0'.
- From there, I'd read 'man mdadm' and either try to autoassemble 'mdadm
- --assemble --scan' or to add the missing spare by hand '--manage -a'.

Take care. I assume that you have good backups.

 a 'df' does confirms the diagnostic above : if md1 is OK with two
 mirrored partitions sda2 and sdb2, md0 only has sda1, while there was
 sda1 and sdb1 on my former Sarge system.
 
 Ever since I detected such anomaly, I re-installed once more, but I must
 have missed something on the partitioning menu, and I have not found
 what I should change there.

You did not provide enough information to be certain, but I *guess* that
you might have accidentally started the raid with one of the partitions
missing at one point in the past. That led to both partitions not being
in sync any more. Now mdadm can't continue to use both partitions at
once, unless you tell it to sync one of the drives to the state of the
other one.

Good luck,
Johannes
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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Bernard]

Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 13:14 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich a écrit :
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 Bernard wrote:
  Hi there,
  
  Since I was unable to recompile my old kernel 2.6.20 under Debian Sarge,
  I decided to install Lenny. Unable to find a way to just upgrade (there
  has been Etch in between), 
 
 Why not just upgrade to etch (aka 'oldstable'), followed by an upgrade
 to lenny?
 
 I just saved directories and installed from
  the iso image 
  
  debian-502a-i386-netinst.iso
  
  I choose somewhat automated install. I left partitions like they were
  under Sarge, or, if I did change something at that point, I can't
  exactly remember what. I must say that the partitioning menu seemed very
  confusing, but I admit that I knew very little about my raid1 system.
 
 The installation guide [1] contain a very informative section on
 partitioning.
 
 [1] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition
 
  In any case, the Lenny install that I now get, shows defaults. 
  mdadm monitoring keeps sending mails at each boot :
  
  'A degradated event has been detected on md device /dev/md0
  P.S. The /proc/mdstat file currently contains the following :
  
  Personalities: [raid 1]
  
  md1: active raid 1 sda2[0] sdb2[1]
  67874550 blocks [2/2] [UU]
  
  md0: active raid 1 sda1[0]
  497856 blocks [2/1] [U_]
  
  unused devices : none
  '
 
 I guess that you just have to add sdb1 to your raid md0. Check the
 output of 'mdadm --detail /dev/md0'.
 - From there, I'd read 'man mdadm' and either try to autoassemble 'mdadm
 - --assemble --scan' or to add the missing spare by hand '--manage -a'.

Thanks a lot. That did the trick. I typed :

mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb1

and this restored my md0 all right. After reboot, this change remains.
So, I think that this particular problem is solved


My next problem is one of keyboard. I had chosen a kind of automatic
setup for my install. Despites this, I was questioned about language,
and I had replied 'French'. However my keyboard is in QWERTY instead of
being in AZERTY as it should. With past installed (RedHat 5.2, then
RH6.0, RH7.2, Debian Sarge..., I had had no problem having my keyboard
configured right away for AZERTY. It is not so here with that install of
Lenny. System messages are in French (which I don't really care), but
the keyboard is QUERTY, worse yet when I have to search for the right
key for a special character. This is so in both console and graphic
environment (GNOME).

Thanks in advance for your help in switching my keyboard to the French
setup.

Next I will ask for how to replace GNOME with fvwm...


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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Bernard wrote:
[snip]
 My next problem is one of keyboard. I had chosen a kind of automatic
 setup for my install. Despites this, I was questioned about language,
 and I had replied 'French'. However my keyboard is in QWERTY instead of
 being in AZERTY as it should. With past installed (RedHat 5.2, then
 RH6.0, RH7.2, Debian Sarge..., I had had no problem having my keyboard
 configured right away for AZERTY. It is not so here with that install of
 Lenny. System messages are in French (which I don't really care), but
 the keyboard is QUERTY, worse yet when I have to search for the right
 key for a special character. This is so in both console and graphic
 environment (GNOME).
 
 Thanks in advance for your help in switching my keyboard to the French
 setup.

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

 Next I will ask for how to replace GNOME with fvwm...

aptitude install fvwm

Johannes

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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-08-26 14:14 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

 Bernard wrote:
 
 Thanks in advance for your help in switching my keyboard to the French
 setup.

 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Will not work¹ with the version of xserver-xorg currently in Lenny. :-(

Sven


¹ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=nobug=535624


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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2009-08-26 14:14 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
 
 Bernard wrote:
 Thanks in advance for your help in switching my keyboard to the French
 setup.
 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 
 Will not work¹ with the version of xserver-xorg currently in Lenny. :-(

Urrrggghhh, how ugly!

Thanks for pointing this out. At least the report quotes a workaround
and fix.

Johannes

 ¹ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=nobug=535624


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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In 1251279376.9809.16.ca...@dell-desktop.home, Bernard wrote:
In any case, the Lenny install that I now get, shows defaults.
mdadm monitoring keeps sending mails at each boot :

'A degradated event has been detected on md device /dev/md0
P.S. The /proc/mdstat file currently contains the following :

Personalities: [raid 1]

md1: active raid 1 sda2[0] sdb2[1]
67874550 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md0: active raid 1 sda1[0]
497856 blocks [2/1] [U_]

unused devices : none
'

Yeah, that's got nothing to do with your Lenny install, most likely.

First run 'mdadm -D /dev/md0', confirm that this raid1 is broken -- no 
redundancy; your data is at risk.

Next run 'mdadm -E /dev/sda1' and 'mdadm -E /dev/sdb1', confirm that /dev/sdb1 
is part of the same raid set -- differences only in 'Update Time', 'Checksum', 
'Events', 'Array Slot', and 'Array State'.

Finally run 'mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1' to start the rebuild.  I hope 
your disk hasn't failed.
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Re: problem installing Lenny

[bd]

Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 09:05 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. a écrit :
 In 1251279376.9809.16.ca...@dell-desktop.home, Bernard wrote:
 In any case, the Lenny install that I now get, shows defaults.
 mdadm monitoring keeps sending mails at each boot :
 
 'A degradated event has been detected on md device /dev/md0
 P.S. The /proc/mdstat file currently contains the following :
 
 Personalities: [raid 1]
 
 md1: active raid 1 sda2[0] sdb2[1]
 67874550 blocks [2/2] [UU]
 
 md0: active raid 1 sda1[0]
 497856 blocks [2/1] [U_]
 
 unused devices : none
 '
 
 Yeah, that's got nothing to do with your Lenny install, most likely.
 
 First run 'mdadm -D /dev/md0', confirm that this raid1 is broken -- no 
 redundancy; your data is at risk.
 
 Next run 'mdadm -E /dev/sda1' and 'mdadm -E /dev/sdb1', confirm that 
 /dev/sdb1 
 is part of the same raid set -- differences only in 'Update Time', 
 'Checksum', 
 'Events', 'Array Slot', and 'Array State'.
 
 Finally run 'mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1' to start the rebuild.  I hope 
 your disk hasn't failed.

According to someone else's advice, I ran just :

mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1

and it worked right away. Since that partition /dev/sda1 and its
mirror /dev/sdb1 are small (about 500 MB), the process was instant.
After reboot, the changes remain, and I no longer have system messages.

However, when shutting down, I always have a message saying
that /dev/mapper/vg00-root could not be unmounted since it is in use...
The message goes very quickly, and I don't know where I could find a log
of this. In any case, the shutdown process keeps going and it goes like
this each time. 


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Re: problem installing Lenny

[bdebreil]

Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 09:05 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. a écrit :
 In 1251279376.9809.16.ca...@dell-desktop.home, Bernard wrote:
 In any case, the Lenny install that I now get, shows defaults.
 mdadm monitoring keeps sending mails at each boot :
 
 'A degradated event has been detected on md device /dev/md0
 P.S. The /proc/mdstat file currently contains the following :
 
 Personalities: [raid 1]
 
 md1: active raid 1 sda2[0] sdb2[1]
 67874550 blocks [2/2] [UU]
 
 md0: active raid 1 sda1[0]
 497856 blocks [2/1] [U_]
 
 unused devices : none
 '
 
 Yeah, that's got nothing to do with your Lenny install, most likely.
 
 First run 'mdadm -D /dev/md0', confirm that this raid1 is broken -- no 
 redundancy; your data is at risk.
 
 Next run 'mdadm -E /dev/sda1' and 'mdadm -E /dev/sdb1', confirm that 
 /dev/sdb1 
 is part of the same raid set -- differences only in 'Update Time', 
 'Checksum', 
 'Events', 'Array Slot', and 'Array State'.
 
 Finally run 'mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1' to start the rebuild.  I hope 
 your disk hasn't failed.

According to someone else's advice, I ran just :

mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1

and it worked right away. Since that partition /dev/sda1 and its
mirror /dev/sdb1 are small (about 500 MB), the process was instant.
After reboot, the changes remain, and I no longer have system messages.

However, when shutting down, I always have a message saying
that /dev/mapper/vg00-root could not be unmounted since it is in use...
The message goes very quickly, and I don't know where I could find a log
of this. In any case, the shutdown process keeps going and it goes like
this each time. 


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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:01:12 bd wrote:
 However, when shutting down, I always have a message saying
 that /dev/mapper/vg00-root could not be unmounted since it is in use...

IME, that's normal.  Whatever block devices back your '/' file system can not 
be shut down cleanly, but since it is remounted as read-only and then synced 
to disk before the hardware reset it rarely (if ever) causes issues.
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Re: problem installing Lenny

[bdebreil]

Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 11:51 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. a écrit :
 On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:01:12 bd wrote:
  However, when shutting down, I always have a message saying
  that /dev/mapper/vg00-root could not be unmounted since it is in use...
 
 IME, that's normal.  Whatever block devices back your '/' file system can not 
 be shut down cleanly, but since it is remounted as read-only and then synced 
 to disk before the hardware reset it rarely (if ever) causes issues.

Thanks. This reassures me.

As you can imagine, I have a few other issues.

My next concern are the error messages that keep displaying every 3
minutes or so, if I am on a console (that doesn't show when I am under
Gnome Xterm). It is matter of a firmware that cannot be installed, most
likely a WiFi card driver :


firmware: requesting rt2561.bin
phy0 - rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Fir
mware.


I found this in Google :

Google rt2x00 wiki

Rt2.00 drivers are part of the mainline kernel tree. this is true since
Jan 2008 with the 2.6.24 kernel... While the mainline kernel has the
driver tree, for several reasons, can only be pulled along with the full
kernel sources usint the git content tracker. 

WiFi did operate on this machine on my late Debian Sarge system ; I
don't know what firmware operated, but I had no such errors. Since I
have higher priorities and that my PC is mostly connected through an
ethernet cable, I wish to disable that module for now. How should I
blacklist it of something of the kind ?   Is there a better thing to
do ?  In any case, these repeated attempts are troublesome, they even
interfere on my DSL modem/routeur box, which LED is almost constantly
blinking when this PC is up and running, 




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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:50:23 bdebreil wrote:
 My next concern are the error messages that keep displaying every 3
 minutes or so, if I am on a console (that doesn't show when I am under
 Gnome Xterm).

For a new issue, you should start a new thread.  Other can can help you with 
the new issue may already be ignoring this thread because they couldn't assist 
with the old issue.

(You can do this by composing a new email rather than using the Reply 
feature of your MUA.)

 It is matter of a firmware that cannot be installed, most
 likely a WiFi card driver :

 
 firmware: requesting rt2561.bin
 phy0 - rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Error - Failed to request Fir
 mware.
 

 I found this in Google :

 Google rt2x00 wiki

 Rt2.00 drivers are part of the mainline kernel tree. this is true since
 Jan 2008 with the 2.6.24 kernel... While the mainline kernel has the
 driver tree, for several reasons, can only be pulled along with the full
 kernel sources usint the git content tracker. 

 WiFi did operate on this machine on my late Debian Sarge system ; I
 don't know what firmware operated, but I had no such errors. 

Lenny in specific and Debian in general has removed a number of firmwares from 
the kernel shipped in main because the firmwares are arguably non-free or that 
their distribution could possibly violate the GPL.

Most (if not all) of those firmwares are available as packages in the non-free 
repository.

 Since I
 have higher priorities and that my PC is mostly connected through an
 ethernet cable, I wish to disable that module for now. How should I
 blacklist it of something of the kind ?

If you can determine the module name (maybe rt2561?), you can blacklist the 
module using a file in /etc/modprobe.d, whose contents in documented by 'man 5 
modprobe.conf'.  Most often something like blacklist rt2561 or install 
rt2561 /bin/true should work.

 Is there a better thing to
 do ?

If you'd like the module and its hardware to work, install the firmware 
package from non-free.
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Re: problem installing Lenny

[Celejar]

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:51:09 -0500
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:

 On Wednesday 26 August 2009 11:01:12 bd wrote:
  However, when shutting down, I always have a message saying
  that /dev/mapper/vg00-root could not be unmounted since it is in use...
 
 IME, that's normal.  Whatever block devices back your '/' file system can not 
 be shut down cleanly, but since it is remounted as read-only and then synced 
 to disk before the hardware reset it rarely (if ever) causes issues.

It's normal; I see it too on one of my systems, and here's the relevant
bug:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=466141

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Installing Lenny

[Roman Gelfand]

I have vista 64 and fedora 10 installed  The bootloader is GRUB.  I am
looking to install Lenny in place of fedora.  What would be the right
way to approach it?

Thanks in advance


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Re: Installing Lenny

[Neal Hogan]

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Roman Gelfandrgelfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have vista 64 and fedora 10 installed  The bootloader is GRUB.  I am
 looking to install Lenny in place of fedora.  What would be the right
 way to approach it?

Back-up current stuff, d'load the .iso, burn it to cd and boot off of that disc.

Probably a lot like you did with fedora. Look to debian.org and check
back here if you have specific problems.


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Re: Installing Lenny

[Dirk Neumann]

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:19:50 -0400
Roman Gelfand rgelfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have vista 64 and fedora 10 installed  The bootloader is GRUB.  I am
 looking to install Lenny in place of fedora.  What would be the right
 way to approach it?

Backup all the files you need, download a suitable CD-image, burn it
to CD or DVD, boot from it, and answer all the questions you are asked,
like partitioning (select the fedora partitions).

Dirk.


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Re: Installing Lenny

[Mark]

 I have vista 64 and fedora 10 installed  The bootloader is GRUB.  I am
 looking to install Lenny in place of fedora.  What would be the right
 way to approach it?

Not sure if this applies to Vista too (I assume it would), but I just set up
a friend's computer to dual-boot XP/Debian in place of XP/Ubuntu.  To make
that happen I erased the Ubuntu partition(s) and that took GRUB with it so
upon trying to install Debian it didn't know XP was on the hard drive (since
GRUB had replaced XP's bootloader and no longer existed).  After a bit of
fiddling, I realized I needed to put the XP install CD in, go to Recovery
Console mode and do two commands: fixmbr and fixboot C: - after this,
Debian saw XP and added it to the GRUB bootloader menu during installation.

Don't know if I could have just edited /boot/grub/menu.lst manually or not,
but the above method worked great.  As an added bonus XP passes the post
screen in about 1/4 the time now, maybe the standard mbr installation isn't
that efficient in XP?

Mark

Trouble installing Lenny/KDE

[truthjustice]

hello folks,   I'm having some trouble installing lenny 5.01 AMD 64.
The graphical installer installed the system with KDE and it seems to
want to boot, but the monitor stops and says the signal is out of range.
I would like to find out if the Sapphire ATI HD4670 graphics card was
detected and the fglrx driver was installed. There is an empty
fglrx-install.log file at the root. This may be because I tried to
install it with the ATI automated installer but that failed twice for
different reasons. I'm wondering in the rescue mode where I can navigate
to and see if the fglrx dpkg was installed. If the dpkg is on the lenny
install dvd's I should be able to install it in rescue mode, right? Any
help is appreciated. I'm determined to get a working installation.

Asus M2N-E motherboard with Nvidia Nforce 570 Ultra chipset.
Graphics card is in the PCIe 16x slot at 16x.
sata hd and dvd writer.

Thanks,
Bill Manley


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Re: Network traffic failure after installing Lenny

[Amit Uttamchandani]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:24:24 -0500
Alejandro Barocio A. abaroci...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/4/15 Alejandro Barocio A. abaroci...@gmail.com:
  I can't do ping; I haven't tested it on a different network; but my
  stronger suspect is DHCP (for it runs on a WinXP OS).
 
  Neverthless, I never had such problems with Etch or Woody, an they
  show up when I installed Lenny.
 
  I will try the Network on Ubuntu.
 
 Everything looks fine on the network, but still can't route traffic.
 
 I even get to use a 3.5G USB modem and it connects, but still con't
 route traffic.
 
 When I run the route command, it shows nothing, and if I'm conneted to
 my 3.5G it hangs (just route program)
 
 So I KNOW that the problem is in MY lenny.
 
 Any help?

I'm having the same issues in squeeze. Not sure why its happening but
follow this forum thread and it has some good tips that might help.

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=69181

Good luck,
Amit


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Re: Question about Installing Lenny on a laptop

[s. keeling]

Cláudio E. Elicker elic...@gmail.com:
  On Wednesday 17 June 2009, Petrus Validus wrote:
  ...
 
  Usually I just install the base and build from there (on desktops) but
  since I'm on a laptop I'm wondering what tools and packages are part of
  the Laptop selection?
 
  Try this:
  aptitude search '~tlaptop'

Cool, and to the OP, I in installed just the base, then dragged what I
needed in.  The above lists this here (lenny):

i   acpi - displays information on ACPI devices
i   acpi-support - scripts for handling many ACPI events
i   acpid- Utilities for using ACPI power management
i   anacron  - cron-like program that doesn't go by time
i   apmd - Utilities for Advanced Power Management (APM)
i   avahi-autoipd- Avahi IPv4LL network address configuration daemon
i   bluetooth- Bluetooth stack utilities
i   cpufrequtils - utilities to deal with the cpufreq Linux kernel feature
i   hibernate- smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or 
disk)
i   nvclock  - Allows you to overclock your nVidia card under GNU/Linux
i   pcmciautils  - PCMCIA utilities for Linux 2.6
i   powertop - Linux tool to find out what is using power on a laptop
i   radeontool   - utility to control ATI Radeon backlight functions on 
laptops
i   toshset  - Access much of the Toshiba laptop hardware interface
i   vbetool  - run real-mode video BIOS code to alter hardware state
i   wireless-tools   - Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions
i   wpasupplicant- Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)

  For more information look here: http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel

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Re: Network traffic failure after installing Lenny

[Alejandro Barocio A.]

2009/4/15 Alejandro Barocio A. abaroci...@gmail.com:
 I can't do ping; I haven't tested it on a different network; but my
 stronger suspect is DHCP (for it runs on a WinXP OS).

 Neverthless, I never had such problems with Etch or Woody, an they
 show up when I installed Lenny.

 I will try the Network on Ubuntu.

Everything looks fine on the network, but still can't route traffic.

I even get to use a 3.5G USB modem and it connects, but still con't
route traffic.

When I run the route command, it shows nothing, and if I'm conneted to
my 3.5G it hangs (just route program)

So I KNOW that the problem is in MY lenny.

Any help?

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Re: Question about Installing Lenny on a laptop

[Cláudio E. Elicker]

On Wednesday 17 June 2009, Petrus Validus wrote:

...

 Usually I just install the base and build from there (on desktops) but
 since I'm on a laptop I'm wondering what tools and packages are part of
 the Laptop selection?

Try this:
aptitude search '~tlaptop'

For more information look here: http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel

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Question about Installing Lenny on a laptop

[Petrus Validus]

Hi All,

I am installing Lenny on a Toshiba Tecra A8.  During the software
selection screen by default the options Desktop Environment Laptop
and Standard System are checked.

Usually I just install the base and build from there (on desktops) but
since I'm on a laptop I'm wondering what tools and packages are part of
the Laptop selection?  Are they necessary they be installed with the
rest of the system or does it not matter?

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Re: Question about Installing Lenny on a laptop

[Neal Hogan]

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Petrus Validuspetrus.vali...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am installing Lenny on a Toshiba Tecra A8.  During the software
 selection screen by default the options Desktop Environment Laptop
 and Standard System are checked.

 Usually I just install the base and build from there (on desktops) but
 since I'm on a laptop I'm wondering what tools and packages are part of
 the Laptop selection?  Are they necessary they be installed with the
 rest of the system or does it not matter?

Of course, the appropriate response is, it depends.  It depends on
what you want. Are they necessary for what?  Also, I'm sure that
there is documentation about the diff that you surely don't need
pointing to (mmm. . . debian.org).

I suspect that your laptop is as capable as your desktop. That is,
the diff between the two is not enough to worry about the diff between
a standard (desktop) install and a laptop install. Many laptops are
desktops now-a-days. All I have are laptops. . . So, without more
info about what you have the less help anyone can provide.

One thing that I find odd is the reluctancy of folks to try a FREE OS.
If you have space, try it out! There is no loss (i.e., partition your
M$ box and try).

/one of those moods


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Re: Question about Installing Lenny on a laptop

[Lachlan]

2009/6/18 Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Petrus Validuspetrus.vali...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am installing Lenny on a Toshiba Tecra A8.  During the software
 selection screen by default the options Desktop Environment Laptop
 and Standard System are checked.

 Usually I just install the base and build from there (on desktops) but
 since I'm on a laptop I'm wondering what tools and packages are part of
 the Laptop selection?  Are they necessary they be installed with the
 rest of the system or does it not matter?

the 'Laptop' option definetely won't hurt. i don't really see it as
needed in any way but you'll probably find something laptop specific
missing from a standard install.

 Of course, the appropriate response is, it depends.  It depends on
 what you want. Are they necessary for what?  Also, I'm sure that
 there is documentation about the diff that you surely don't need
 pointing to (mmm. . . debian.org).

 I suspect that your laptop is as capable as your desktop. That is,
 the diff between the two is not enough to worry about the diff between
 a standard (desktop) install and a laptop install. Many laptops are
 desktops now-a-days. All I have are laptops. . . So, without more
 info about what you have the less help anyone can provide.

 One thing that I find odd is the reluctancy of folks to try a FREE OS.
 If you have space, try it out! There is no loss (i.e., partition your
 M$ box and try).

 /one of those moods

of course those subscribed to debian-user will never risk using free software...


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Re: Installing Lenny on LVM using debootstrap

[Marc Shapiro]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

In 4a125119.8030...@yahoo.com, Marc Shapiro wrote:

I then chrooted into /mnt/debinst, again, and did:
cd \dev
MAKEDEV generic


Instead of this, since you have a running Linux system, I would suggest 
doing (from outside the chroot):

mount -o rbind /dev /mnt/debinst/dev


Thanks, that did it.  The devices all show up now.  I installed lvm2 in 
the chroot then exited and unmounted them from outside the chroot. 
After reentering, I was able to do a mount -a and everything looks as it 
should.


That is probably what I have done before, but the current docs only say 
that it can be done, not what the actual command is.  They also 
recommend against it.  I suppose that is because the base system is not 
guaranteed to be linux, but still...


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Re: Installing Lenny on LVM using debootstrap

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In 4a140dad.6020...@yahoo.com, Marc Shapiro wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 In 4a125119.8030...@yahoo.com, Marc Shapiro wrote:
 I then chrooted into /mnt/debinst, again, and did:
 cd \dev
 MAKEDEV generic
 Instead of this, since you have a running Linux system, I would suggest
 doing (from outside the chroot):
 mount -o rbind /dev /mnt/debinst/dev
That is probably what I have done before, but the current docs only say
that it can be done, not what the actual command is.  They also
recommend against it.

That's probably because the bind mount gives the chroot significant access 
to the host.  Specifically, unlinking a device from /dev inside the chroot 
will also unlink it from /dev outside the chroot, which could cause 
problems.

I don't mind doing the mind mount, because much more destructive acts can be 
done as root inside the chroot if you don't have the filesystem it is on 
mounted 'nodev' and doing that generally results in a non-functional chroot.  
As far as destructive acts, I'm thinking mknod for every possible hd*, sd*, 
md*, and dm* device plus urandom and then writing the contents of urandom 
over all the other devices.

chroots are only as secure as your method of dropping permissions after 
doing the chroot() system interface call.
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Installing Lenny on LVM using debootstrap

[Marc Shapiro]

I have given up on trying to get flash working again on my existing 
system.  I have decided, since I have a spare partition with LVM volumes 
for /home, /var, /usr, /tmp, and swap that I would just reformat them 
with mke2fs -j and reinstall using debootstrap into these volumes.  I 
followed the instruction in Appendix D of the installation manual, but 
they seem to have changed since I installed Lenny the first time (and 
Etch, before that) and there is no mention of how to install on LVM volumes.


Here is what I have done:

I reformatted:
/dev/hda1(for /)
/dev/vg0/tmp
/dev/vg0/usr
/dev/vg0/var
/dev/vg0/home

I did:
mkswap /dev/vg0/swap
sync;sync;sync
swapon /dev/vg0/swap

I mounted /dev/hda1 on /mnt/debinst
I chrooted into /mnt/debinst

I made mountpoints for:
/tmp
/var
/usr
/home

I exited the chroot

I mounted:
/dev/vg0/tmp on /mnt/debinst/tmp
/dev/vg0/var on /mnt/debinst/var
/dev/vg0/usr on /mnt/debinst/usr
/dev/vg0/home on /mnt/debinst/home

I used debootstrap --arch ARCH lenny \
/mnt/debinst http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian

to install the base system.

I then chrooted into /mnt/debinst, again, and did:
cd \dev
MAKEDEV generic

The instructions then say to create /etc/fstab and mount your 
partitions.  It tried that, but I can not access the LVM volumes to 
mount them within the chroot.  I seem to have everything that should 
have been installed (150+ screens of files from ls -R /usr), but df says 
that I have only used 9% of 280003 blocks of sysfs mounted on /sys. 
Nothing else is shown.  Can I just install lvm2 from within the chroot? 
 Will that allow me, then, to mount the volumes?  Do I want to mount 
the LVM volumes, since it seems that everything is available.  But then, 
what happens once I have everything ready to reboot into the new 
partitions if I can't mount the volumes then?  I don't remember having 
this problem when I initially installed Lenny, which was also done 
through a debootstrap chroot.


Are there instructions somewhere for doing the install onto LVM volumes?

I REALLY want to get a system with working flash.  So does my daughter!

Help!  Please.

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Re: Installing Lenny on LVM using debootstrap

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In 4a125119.8030...@yahoo.com, Marc Shapiro wrote:
I then chrooted into /mnt/debinst, again, and did:
   cd \dev
   MAKEDEV generic

Instead of this, since you have a running Linux system, I would suggest 
doing (from outside the chroot):
mount -o rbind /dev /mnt/debinst/dev

That wouldn't work if you were trying to install Debian from (e.g.) AIX, HP-
UX, or NCR UNIX, but, in that case, you'd have to reboot into Linux to 
access the Linux LVM2 logical volumes anyway.
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Re: problems installing lenny on dell laptop

[Daniel Dalton]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 01:48:55AM -0700, Don Raikes wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am a blind user of lenny. I installed lenny using my braille display 
 without a problem onto my gateway desktop system.

So am I :)

  However, when I boot the lenny dvd or cd on my dell latitude d600
 laptop, it is not recognizing the usb connection to either my external
 keyboard or braille display until well into the install process.

Well an usb display by all reports should be detected automatically. If
you just somehow at the prompt invoke brltty like:
brltty=display,device,table
display being your two letter braille driver, and device being the port
its on eg. ttyUSB, or whatever. I forget what usb is called now; I use a
usb to serial device.
table I think is optional, but your braille table en_us or en_uk are
good starting ones. This should force the installer to use text mode! So
perhaps you'll need a ps2 keyboard to initially type this???

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problems installing lenny on dell laptop

[Don Raikes]

Hi all,

I am a blind user of lenny. I installed lenny using my braille display without 
a problem onto my gateway desktop system.

However, when I boot the lenny dvd or cd on my dell latitude d600 laptop, it is 
not recognizing the usb connection to either my external keyboard or braille 
display until well into the install process.

Since the usb is not recognized, the installer does not give me a choice of a 
text-only install it only has the graphhical install.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

BTW: I had created a livecd from my lenny install on the desktop and it boots 
up fine with usb support at the appropriate point on the laptop.

The remastersys-installer doesn't allow me to select the laptop's hard drive so 
I can't install from there.

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Re: problems installing lenny on dell laptop

[Thorny]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:48:55 -0700, Don Raikes posted:

 Hi all,
 
 I am a blind user of lenny. I installed lenny using my braille display
 without a problem onto my gateway desktop system.
 
 However, when I boot the lenny dvd or cd on my dell latitude d600
 laptop, it is not recognizing the usb connection to either my external
 keyboard or braille display until well into the install process.
 
 Since the usb is not recognized, the installer does not give me a choice
 of a text-only install it only has the graphhical install.
 
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
 BTW: I had created a livecd from my lenny install on the desktop and it
 boots up fine with usb support at the appropriate point on the laptop.
 
 The remastersys-installer doesn't allow me to select the laptop's hard
 drive so I can't install from there.

On my D600 there is a BIOS option for USB emulation (USB keyboard, USB
mouse and USB floppy drive), on the BIOS setup which is reached by
pressing F2 while the laptop boots, it's on page 4 of the setup.

It might be worth trying to change that option and see if it makes a
difference. I can't say because I've never tried the D600 with a USB
keyboard, I installed with the laptop keyboard.



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Re: Network traffic failure after installing Lenny

[Alejandro Barocio A.]

2009/4/11 gn643202 je...@jperkins.us:
   What router are you using?

None, just a network (RJ47) switcher an the services of a
WinXP Lap confugured to route network traffic.

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Re: Network traffic failure after installing Lenny

[Alejandro Barocio A.]

I can't do ping; I haven't tested it on a different network; but my
stronger suspect is DHCP (for it runs on a WinXP OS).

Neverthless, I never had such problems with Etch or Woody, an they
show up when I installed Lenny.

I will try the Network on Ubuntu.

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Re: Network traffic failure after installing Lenny

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Alejandro Barocio A. wrote:

When I used etch every thing was fine, after installing lenny...

I have a problem with my network connection: I'm able to establish DHCP
configuration, and DNS resolves addresses, also I can download my mail via POP
and use XMPP and Yahoo IM with Pidgin.  But if i try to use any other network
service nothing works.

When I use a web browser (iceweasel) the connection times out; when updating
aptitude the connection progress hangs on wating a response (it even
tries to change
the ip address to which it connects).

If I try to send a mail, the server (SMTP) does not responds.

My internet connection is a 3G service routed via a WinXP netbook. My
win can't see
apache on lenny or my SMB shares.

If I use etherape I can see all the connections, but no traffic except
for the failure
connection responses.

I don't know what to do. Any sugestions?, any diagnostic to try?,
somewhere to look
for help?


   Sounds like the same problem I am running into.   Here is a little 
of my findings:


1)  Exists both on static and DHCP.

2)  Same problem on an Ubuntu box.

3)  Laptop works OK on different network.

4)  Router Netopia 3347NWG  (a strong suspect)

5)  # ping works great

6)  I have had SMB problems like that in the past, time takes care of 
it.   May not be part of the problem.


   What router are you using?

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Network traffic failure after installing Lenny

[Alejandro Barocio A.]

When I used etch every thing was fine, after installing lenny...

I have a problem with my network connection: I'm able to establish DHCP
configuration, and DNS resolves addresses, also I can download my mail via POP
and use XMPP and Yahoo IM with Pidgin.  But if i try to use any other network
service nothing works.

When I use a web browser (iceweasel) the connection times out; when updating
aptitude the connection progress hangs on wating a response (it even
tries to change
the ip address to which it connects).

If I try to send a mail, the server (SMTP) does not responds.

My internet connection is a 3G service routed via a WinXP netbook. My
win can't see
apache on lenny or my SMB shares.

If I use etherape I can see all the connections, but no traffic except
for the failure
connection responses.

I don't know what to do. Any sugestions?, any diagnostic to try?,
somewhere to look
for help?

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Installing lenny-partitioning problem

[L . V . Gandhi]

I tried to install lenny in my pc. I have two hdds. First one is IDE slave
which has swap(hdb5) and another sata hdd. I opted for manual partition. I
masde a root partition in sata hdd and wanted to use swap of hdb5. When I
finish partitioning and mounting details, I get message as follows.
Error informing kernel about modification to partition /dev/hdb5 -- Device
or resource busy. This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to
/dev/hdb5 until you reboot -- So you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way
before rebooting.
Error.
Ignore
Cancel.
IfI ignore or cancel it asks choice of partitioning.
What to do?

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