Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
 Here is my 'fstab'

  # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
  #
  # file system mount point   type  options       dump  pass
  proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
  /dev/hda1       /               ext3    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[snip
  /dev/sda1    /        ntfs    defaults,errors=remount-ro    0    1

I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be trying 
to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).

Lisi



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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread John Lindsay

Lisi wrote:

On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
  

Here is my 'fstab'



# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1
  

[snip
  

/dev/sda1/ntfsdefaults,errors=remount-ro01
  


I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be trying 
to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).


Lisi



  

Hi Lisi

I saw that but don't know what to make of it. Here is the result of 'df 
-lh'.



FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1  71G   58G  9.8G  86% /
tmpfs 760M 0  760M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M  800K  9.3M   8% /dev
tmpfs 760M 0  760M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hdb  113G   82G   26G  77% /new-disk
/dev/sdb1 7.5G  3.4G  4.2G  46% /media/KINGSTON
/dev/sda1 1.9T  123M  1.9T   1% /mnt
Where the first 'dev/sda1' comes from is unknown to me. I formatted the 
drive on my Debian system using Partition Editor and it showed only a 
1.82TB size partition. Deleting the partition did not show an increase 
or that seemingly extra drive which does not physically exist. As the 
USER I believe I can edit the 'fstab' so I'll delete that line and see 
what happens. If the USER can't do it then I'll do it as ROOT.


John


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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread John Lindsay

Lisi wrote:

On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
  

Here is my 'fstab'



# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1
  

[snip
  

/dev/sda1/ntfsdefaults,errors=remount-ro01
  


I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be trying 
to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).


Lisi



  
Actually it is the 'mtab' that shows the two  '/dev/sda1'  entries. I'll 
try editing it and see what damage I can do!!!



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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread John Lindsay

John Lindsay wrote:

Lisi wrote:



I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to 
be trying to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).


Lisi



  
Actually it is the 'mtab' that shows the two  '/dev/sda1'  entries. 
I'll try editing it and see what damage I can do!!!



Well, I edited 'mtab' as root and deleted the first instance of 
'/dev/sda1'. I then rebooted and here is my 'mtab' without doing a 
physical 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt' (something I do not have to do with the 
Kingston USB drive). Also, 'fstab' shows a mount point of '/' the same 
as my hda1. Does that make any difference? Still haven't found out how 
to make a volume label without reformatting and re-partitioning.


Thanks everyone for being very helpfully with this old codger!!


John


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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:50:05 -0400, John Lindsay wrote:

 I am still trying to get this USB drive to show up as an icon on the
 desktop and to show up under the toolbar 'Places' like my 8GB USB memory
 stick and my /new-disk hdb  (115GB internal drive). 

Then try by removing (or just #comment) the corresponding line under /
etc/fstab and let the automounter do it its way.

As for the second point, you'll have to explain better (what you did and 
what it happened).

Greetings,

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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 19 September 2010 11:23:20 John Lindsay wrote:
 Here is the result of 'df
 -lh'.

  Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
  /dev/sda1              71G   58G  9.8G  86% /
[snip]
  /dev/sda1             1.9T  123M  1.9T   1% /mnt

Curiouser and curiouser

Now we have one partition on two mount points. 

Out of interest (I am no expert, so use with all possible health warnings) try 
mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt in your fstab, ratherthan on /.  If that works, 
you can create a mount point for /dev/sda1 and use that in your fstab, 
freeing /mnt for more general use.

One usually has to edit /etc/fstab as root.

The fact that the filesystem is ntfs may have a bearing.  I know nothing about 
ntfs since I have never used it.

HTH
Lisi



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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 19 September 2010 11:29:44 John Lindsay wrote:
 Lisi wrote:
  On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
  Here is my 'fstab'
 
  # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
  #
  # file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
  proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
  /dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1
 
  [snip
 
  /dev/sda1/ntfsdefaults,errors=remount-ro01
 
  I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be
  trying to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).
 
  Lisi

 Actually it is the 'mtab' that shows the two  '/dev/sda1'  entries. I'll
 try editing it and see what damage I can do!!!

Yes - but the point I made is that in /etc/fstab you have two 
*partitions*  /dev/hda1 and /dev/sda1 BOTH trying to mont on one mount 
point, /.  If you look again at my email you will see that that is what I 
said.

Lisi


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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread John Lindsay

Lisi wrote:

On Sunday 19 September 2010 11:29:44 John Lindsay wrote:
  

Lisi wrote:


On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
  

Here is my 'fstab'



# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1
  

[snip

  

/dev/sda1/ntfsdefaults,errors=remount-ro01
  

I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be
trying to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).

Lisi
  

Actually it is the 'mtab' that shows the two  '/dev/sda1'  entries. I'll
try editing it and see what damage I can do!!!



Yes - but the point I made is that in /etc/fstab you have two 
*partitions*  /dev/hda1 and /dev/sda1 BOTH trying to mont on one mount 
point, /.  If you look again at my email you will see that that is what I 
said.


Lisi


  
Sorry Lisi I mis-read your email -- after re-reading your original reply 
I took a second and third look before it finally soaked into this thick 
head what you were saying -- I'll look into that when I return later 
today --



John


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Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-18 Thread John Lindsay

Hi All

I am still trying to get this USB drive to show up as an icon on the 
desktop and to show up under the toolbar 'Places' like my 8GB USB memory 
stick and my /new-disk hdb  (115GB internal drive). I am using Debian 
Lenny with Gnome as a desktop.

Here is my 'mount' display


/dev/sda1 on / type ntfs (rw,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
/dev/hdb on /new-disk type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/sdb1 on /media/KINGSTON type vfat 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=1000)

After I type 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt here is my mount display

/dev/sda1 on / type ntfs (rw,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
/dev/hdb on /new-disk type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/sdb1 on /media/KINGSTON type vfat 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=1000)

/dev/sda1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw)


So if I read this right the device is mounted.



Here is my 'fstab'

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/hda5   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/hdd/media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hdb/new-diskext3defaults,errors=remount-ro01
/dev/sda1/ntfsdefaults,errors=remount-ro01


And here is my 'mtab'

/dev/sda1 / ntfs rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
tmpfs /lib/init/rw tmpfs rw,nosuid,mode=0755 0 0
proc /proc proc rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
procbususb /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
udev /dev tmpfs rw,mode=0755 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
fusectl /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw 0 0
/dev/hdb /new-disk ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
binfmt_misc /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc 
rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /media/KINGSTON vfat 
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=1000 0 0

/dev/sda1 /mnt ntfs rw 0 0


/dev/sda1 is present in both. I noticed that I don't have a 'label' for 
sda1. How do I 'label' it without reformatting the drive? I don't know 
if this has anything to do with displaying the icon but it doesn't hurt 
to ask those who are more proficient in things like this.


Secondly when I tried to follow the advice give to me by previous 
respondents I 'lost' Kingston USB stick display. The only way I can get 
it to show up is to select an earlier boot option.  How do I 'delete' 
the first boot option or at least move the last option to the top of the 
list.


Thirdly -- is there somewhere or somehow of capturing the messages that 
flash across the screen when booting up -- I see something that tells me 
that USB port 1 cant be enumerated and several other messages that may 
have something to do with my problem.


I do not believe it is a hardware problem because booting a live distro 
on this computer such as Ubuntu shows the USB drive and it is accessible.


Last thing --  what would I use to change the permissions on the sda1?  
My /dev/sdb1 (Kingston) shows 'user' as owner and group as root -- is 
'permissions' a possible cause of my problem? Also looking at /mnt shows 
'root' can access files only, group is root without access and others 
have no access. chmod 700 /mnt says 'read only file system' ls -ld /mnt 
shows



dr-x-- 1 root root 4096 2010-09-17 08:53 /mnt



Sorry is this is overly long but I would really like to resolve this 
problem so I can use this drive as storage.


Thanks

John


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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-18 Thread Mark Allums

On 9/18/2010 4:50 PM, John Lindsay wrote:


Secondly when I tried to follow the advice give to me by previous
respondents I 'lost' Kingston USB stick display. The only way I can get
it to show up is to select an earlier boot option. How do I 'delete' the
first boot option or at least move the last option to the top of the list.


Edit your GRUB options.  Which options depends on whether you are using 
GRUB legacy or GRUB2.




 is

'permissions' a possible cause of my problem?



Conceivably.



Also looking at /mnt shows

'root' can access files only, group is root without access and others
have no access. chmod 700 /mnt says 'read only file system' ls -ld /mnt
shows


dr-x-- 1 root root 4096 2010-09-17 08:53 /mnt



You *might* want chmod 777 while troubleshooting, and then possibly 
something like 755 depending on your needs later.



700 locks normal users out.

The order goes user, group, world

If root is the owner, then non-root can't read, write, or execute from 
that directory.  In fact, just doing an ls inside a directory requires 
execute privileges on that directory.


700 for owner root is probably not what you want.


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