Re: Is my hard drive dying?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please turn your line wraps on to something like 72 columns instead of 1 paragraph. On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:12:48AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: I had these exact same error messages, starting about two weeks ago. I assumed the hard drive was dying, but it turned out to be a bad motherboard. Actually, I wish it had been the drive - hard drives are cheaper (and easier) to replace than motherboards. Might hit outpost.com, or better yet if you live near one, a Fry's Electronics. There, hard drives and decent motherboards run around the same price. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gqJkJ5vLSqVpK2kRAnrwAKCDGmZLi8UDZHzY3gg2Xiwh+T93lACgokCK Rqer+YUDhMRhhHJZwl55FVg= =/M+K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard drive dying?
Dave Sherohman wrote:
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:16:28PM -, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine
till now.
I got those errors twice on a machine with sis chipset and ext3.
Other partitions with different file systems never were affected.
Klaus
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Re: Is my hard drive dying?
I've been looking through the logcheck on one of my machines, and I've
seen
a lot of these types of messages:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the
machine
till now.
not necessarily...
=== What did you CHANGE ??
I don't think I've changed anything :(
-- if you changed the kernel ... make sure yur kernel supports the
motherboard ( ide chipset )
Nope, been running with this kernel for months.
-- did you add a new disk somewhere ??
- use only one ide drive per cable if you're having these problems
Nope - and the drive I'm using is rather old :( It's a rather old machine.
-- check your ide cables for kinks and corners and places where it touches
metal
I haven't opened the box recently, but I'll check anyway.
-- is it ext2 or ext3 ??
- does (e2fsck) ext2 come out clean
ext2 and the first time I ran e2fsck it didn't come out clean. The
subsequent runs did.
-- make sure your IDE cables is secure and is 80 conductor ( not
fatter looking 40-conductor cables )
See above
-- if the disks has been running for a while..
- what changed
Not a lot. The machine doesn't get rebooted very often
- when you make backups ... use a DIFFERENT media for backups
when you already suspect a bad disk... as your good backup
will be overwritten by bad data..
Because the machine isn't very busy it doesn't get backed up very often,
but I'll have a look at the the backups too.
- when you restore the data, you might be restoring the
original bad-disk-symptom vs the disk problem itself
Not much data to restore, only a small amount of data from a MySQL
database, which is emailed to me every day.
I was looking for a reason (other than the sheer hell of it) for rebuilding
this box - I guess I just found it!
Cheers everyone,
Andrew
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Re: Is my hard drive dying?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:16:28PM -, Andrew Pritchard wrote: Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine till now. If you don't have hdparm spinning down your drives, odds are you are looking at the early stages of a hrd drive failure. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gD49J5vLSqVpK2kRAohrAKCVFAYEZoyAg5L2xufMzeU3lWxytACfSfNB Ny/Ee7fRWtJNfJ2ql0wC6kI= =1VF0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard drive dying?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:32:13AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:16:28PM -, Andrew Pritchard wrote: Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine till now. If you don't have hdparm spinning down your drives, odds are you are looking at the early stages of a hrd drive failure. Early? One of the blocks on the drive just went away. It's most likely unrecoverable. Moreover, it's not just a block that wasn't used at all, because otherwise, the kernel wouldn't have requested it from the drive. So, Andrew: Get your data off that drive ASAP, consider the drive a goner until proven otherwise. (Some people are giving lots of possibilities of the drive not giving the ghost. I find this dangerous: If I'd get lots of advice it could be this or that, which all indicate that the data will be safe on the drive, I'd consider checking that out while in fact I should be backing up the data that can still be read from the drive. Andrew already got his important data off the drive. Good. But for the others: You might end up feeling very sorry if you push someone with a faulty drive into checking out a couple of other possiblities before they try to backup their data, and it's too late) Roger. -- ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2600998 ** *-- BitWizard writes Linux device drivers for any device you may have! --* * The Worlds Ecosystem is a stable system. Stable systems may experience * * excursions from the stable situation. We are currently in such an * * excursion: The stable situation does not include humans. *** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard drive dying?
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:16:28 -
Andrew Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been looking through the logcheck on one of my machines, and I've seen
a lot of these types of messages:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine
till now.
I had these exact same error messages, starting about two weeks ago. I assumed the
hard drive was dying, but it turned out to be a bad motherboard. Actually, I wish it
had been the drive - hard drives are cheaper (and easier) to replace than motherboards.
If possible, try to test the drive in another computer before tossing it out. But like
others have said, back up your data IMMEDIATELY.
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Re: Is my hard drive dying?
Andrew Pritchard wrote:
I've been looking through the logcheck on one of my machines, and I've seen
a lot of these types of messages:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine
till now.
You should probably disable IDE DMA (see hdparm) immediately. If kernel
IDE problems are your problem, that should prevent additional corruption.
Daniel
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Re: Is my hard drive dying?
You should probably disable IDE DMA (see hdparm) immediately. If kernel IDE problems are your problem, that should prevent additional corruption. also start using smartsuite utilities. they are a part of woody atleast. Sharninder Singh National Institute Of Management, Calcutta -- 'M.C.S.E - Minesweeper Consultant Solitaire Expert' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is my hard drive dying?
I've been looking through the logcheck on one of my machines, and I've seen
a lot of these types of messages:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine
till now.
A
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Re: Is my hard drive dying?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:16:28PM -, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
I've been looking through the logcheck on one of my machines, and I've seen
a lot of these types of messages:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine
till now.
I'd tend to say yes - get your backups done now!
Can you tell from the logs if there was a hard start date, or did
the errors just start to trickle in? How often are they occuring?
jc
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Re: Is my hard drive dying?
Am Mon, 2003-03-24 um 23.16 schrieb Andrew Pritchard: [...] Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine till now. Hate to say it, but yes it looks like you'd better get a backup done. Or try to mkfs the entire drive (delete and recreate all partitions). That *may* help if your partition table is faulty. HTH -- Matthias Hentges Cologne / Germany [www.hentges.net] - PGP welcome, HTML tolerated ICQ: 97 26 97 4 - No files, no URL's My OS: Debian Woody: Geek by Nature, Linux by Choice signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: Is my hard drive dying?
Andrew Pritchard said:
I've been looking through the logcheck on one of my machines, and I've
seen a lot of these types of messages:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the
machine till now.
that is a common symtom of a drive that is beginning to fail. I would
reccomend running the vendor's diagnostic tools on the disk asap, and
backup your important data just incase.
depending on the drive, you may be able to low level format it using
the vendor's tools(this will erase all data) and get more life out of
it, one of my maxtor drives got an extra 6 months of life by low level
formatting it.
nate
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Re: Is my hard drive dying?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:16:28PM -, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine
till now.
$ fortune -m LikeThis
(knghtbrd)
%
Overfiend Thunder-: when you get { MessagesLikeThisFromYourHardDrive }
Overfiend Thunder-: it either means { TheDriverIsScrewy }
Overfiend or
Overfiend { YourDriveIsFlakingOut BackUpYourDataBeforeIt'sTooLate
PrayToGod }
%
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Re: Is my hard drive dying?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 03:06:43PM -0800, nate wrote:
Andrew Pritchard said:
I've been looking through the logcheck on one of my machines, and I've
seen a lot of these types of messages:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the
machine till now.
I have also found that this happens when you are not using the proper
IDE kernel driver...
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Re: Is my hard drive dying?
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
I've been looking through the logcheck on one of my machines, and I've seen
a lot of these types of messages:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine
till now.
not necessarily...
=== What did you CHANGE ??
-- if you changed the kernel ... make sure yur kernel supports the
motherboard ( ide chipset )
-- did you add a new disk somewhere ??
- use only one ide drive per cable if you're having these problems
-- check your ide cables for kinks and corners and places where it touches
metal
-- is it ext2 or ext3 ??
- does (e2fsck) ext2 come out clean
-- make sure your IDE cables is secure and is 80 conductor ( not
fatter looking 40-conductor cables )
-- if the disks has been running for a while..
- what changed
- when you make backups ... use a DIFFERENT media for backups
when you already suspect a bad disk... as your good backup
will be overwritten by bad data..
- when you restore the data, you might be restoring the
original bad-disk-symptom vs the disk problem itself
-- if its a brand new disks..
- you could have a bad disk
- or lots of possible reasons
-- few other stuff to do before tossing the disks..
-- move the disk to a different box... does it show the same symptom
( and if it did... the disk might be bad ...
c ya
alvin
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