Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Lu, 20 dec 10, 14:41:48, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:17:06 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: This will work for a while, but eventually the 'lenny' directory will be moved off the main mirror system onto the archives and the 'oldstable - lenny' will be updated. Do you mean that there is no way to keep the same name for the time it lasts a release? I thought lenny repo would automatically point to oldstable when squeeze is released, that is, no manual intervention required from user's side :-? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable Yes, but oldstable is supported only for one year after the release or until the next release (whichever comes first, as the Security Team can not support 3 releases at the same time). After that it will be moved to archive.debian.org, so one needs to re-adjust sources.list Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:08:12 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 20 dec 10, 14:41:48, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:17:06 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: This will work for a while, but eventually the 'lenny' directory will be moved off the main mirror system onto the archives and the 'oldstable - lenny' will be updated. Do you mean that there is no way to keep the same name for the time it lasts a release? I thought lenny repo would automatically point to oldstable when squeeze is released, that is, no manual intervention required from user's side :-? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable Yes, but oldstable is supported only for one year after the release or until the next release (whichever comes first, as the Security Team can not support 3 releases at the same time). After that it will be moved to archive.debian.org, so one needs to re-adjust sources.list He, he... one year is much time (that gives ~2.5 years of support altogether) ;-) Okay, I see your point. But archived releases do not have security patches, right? So having an unpatched system is not an option (at least for me) and so, when Lenny becomes archived (when Wheezy is released) is time to move up and upgrade the system. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.27.12.14...@gmail.com
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
Hi: On Monday 20 December 2010 15:17:06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In aanlktin5-x9wz731nxncmgunzjsyvqycfspxmmraa...@mail.gmail.com, Mark wrote: I am giving my parents a laptop for Christmas this year that I put Lenny on and as I'm on the other side of the country, want to make sure they stay on Lenny until I am home in the future to upgrade to Squeeze after it officially becomes the Stable release. I've seen some emails about using Lenny instead of stable in the /etc/apt/sources.list to force aptitude to keep a Lenny system. Is this the official/accepted method? This will work for a while, For a value of a while about a year. Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012211147.07847.jesus.nava...@undominio.net
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
2010/12/21 Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net Hi: On Monday 20 December 2010 15:17:06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: This will work for a while, For a value of a while about a year. Thanks for the replies everyone. One of my old desktops is dedicated to running as a Squeezebox slimserver, and in the /etc/apt/sources.list file when I changed deb http://debian.slimdevices.com *stable* main to deb http://debian.slimdevices.com *lenny *main, it returned an error during aptitude update. So I guess for the debian.slimdevices server, lenny cannot be substituted for stable. I just commented out that line for now, and will manually un-comment that line in the future to update as needed. Mark
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:15:46 -0800, Mark wrote: 2010/12/21 Jesús M. Navarro Hi: On Monday 20 December 2010 15:17:06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: This will work for a while, For a value of a while about a year. Thanks for the replies everyone. One of my old desktops is dedicated to running as a Squeezebox slimserver, and in the /etc/apt/sources.list file when I changed deb http://debian.slimdevices.com *stable* main to deb http://debian.slimdevices.com *lenny *main, it returned an error during aptitude update. So I guess for the debian.slimdevices server, lenny cannot be substituted for stable. I just commented out that line for now, and will manually un-comment that line in the future to update as needed. http://debian.slimdevices.com/dists/ http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/ Why not choosing another mirror that can handle codenames? Or is that a special mirror, different (non synced) from Debian ones? For standard mirrors, should you want to keep Lenny (and as soon as Squeeze comes out), if you are still pointing your repos to stable you'll get into troubles. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.21.17.37...@gmail.com
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: http://debian.slimdevices.com/dists/ http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/ Why not choosing another mirror that can handle codenames? Or is that a special mirror, different (non synced) from Debian ones? For standard mirrors, should you want to keep Lenny (and as soon as Squeeze comes out), if you are still pointing your repos to stable you'll get into troubles. Hi Camaleón, the first link in your email confirms that slimdevices/Squeezebox categorizes Debian releases as stable-unstable-testing only, without using codenames. According to the slimserver installation guide ( http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/DebianPackage) it only recognizes stable. Commenting the line out of sources.list and manually controlling when to un-comment it is an acceptable solution for me though. Small trade-off for being able to use my Squeezebox! Thanks, Mark
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
In aanlktin5-x9wz731nxncmgunzjsyvqycfspxmmraa...@mail.gmail.com, Mark wrote: I am giving my parents a laptop for Christmas this year that I put Lenny on and as I'm on the other side of the country, want to make sure they stay on Lenny until I am home in the future to upgrade to Squeeze after it officially becomes the Stable release. I've seen some emails about using Lenny instead of stable in the /etc/apt/sources.list to force aptitude to keep a Lenny system. Is this the official/accepted method? This will work for a while, but eventually the 'lenny' directory will be moved off the main mirror system onto the archives and the 'oldstable - lenny' will be updated. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:17:06 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In aanlktin5-x9wz731nxncmgunzjsyvqycfspxmmraa...@mail.gmail.com, Mark wrote: I am giving my parents a laptop for Christmas this year that I put Lenny on and as I'm on the other side of the country, want to make sure they stay on Lenny until I am home in the future to upgrade to Squeeze after it officially becomes the Stable release. I've seen some emails about using Lenny instead of stable in the /etc/apt/sources.list to force aptitude to keep a Lenny system. Is this the official/accepted method? This will work for a while, but eventually the 'lenny' directory will be moved off the main mirror system onto the archives and the 'oldstable - lenny' will be updated. Do you mean that there is no way to keep the same name for the time it lasts a release? I thought lenny repo would automatically point to oldstable when squeeze is released, that is, no manual intervention required from user's side :-? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.20.14.41...@gmail.com
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 02:41:48PM +, Camaleón wrote:
Do you mean that there is no way to keep the same name for the time it
lasts a release?
Excuse me for intervening, but no, he does not mean that. You see, you can
look at codenames (like 'etch', 'lenny' or 'squeeze') as 'absolute' values,
and at release names ('stable', 'testing' etc.) as 'relative' ones. 'lenny'
would still be 'lenny' after release of 'squeeze' (or whichever), but 'stable',
'testing' etc. would change.
I thought lenny repo would automatically point to oldstable when
squeeze is released, that is, no manual intervention required from user's
side :-?
Yep, you're right: after squeeze's release, both lenny and oldstable would
point to the same place. The point is: if you use codenames, your distribution
won't change (that is, if it was lenny, it would stay so); but if you used
release names (say, 'stable'), you'll be automatically upgraded to the release
that became stable (squeeze, in that case).
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Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
Alexander Batischev wrote:
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 02:41:48PM +, Camaleón wrote:
Do you mean that there is no way to keep the same name for the time it
lasts a release?
Excuse me for intervening, but no, he does not mean that. You see, you can
look at codenames (like 'etch', 'lenny' or 'squeeze') as 'absolute' values,
and at release names ('stable', 'testing' etc.) as 'relative' ones. 'lenny'
would still be 'lenny' after release of 'squeeze' (or whichever), but 'stable',
'testing' etc. would change.
I thought lenny repo would automatically point to oldstable when
squeeze is released, that is, no manual intervention required from user's
side :-?
Yep, you're right: after squeeze's release, both lenny and oldstable would
point to the same place. The point is: if you use codenames, your distribution
won't change (that is, if it was lenny, it would stay so); but if you used
release names (say, 'stable'), you'll be automatically upgraded to the release
that became stable (squeeze, in that case).
...and sid is always unstable...bless it (him?)
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Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
Hi, I am giving my parents a laptop for Christmas this year that I put Lenny on and as I'm on the other side of the country, want to make sure they stay on Lenny until I am home in the future to upgrade to Squeeze after it officially becomes the Stable release. I've seen some emails about using Lenny instead of stable in the /etc/apt/sources.list to force aptitude to keep a Lenny system. Is this the official/accepted method? Currently I have the standard stable entries in sources.list, plus backports. Nothing fancy about the installation, stock kernel, etc. Thank you, Mark
Re: Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 07:12:48PM -0800, Mark wrote: I've seen some emails about using Lenny instead of stable in the /etc/apt/sources.list to force aptitude to keep a Lenny system. Is this the official/accepted method? Yes, that's absolutely normal to use either 'lenny' (with lowercase 'l'!) or 'stable'. You may also use 'squeeze' instead of 'testing' and 'sid' instead of 'unstable'. -- Regards, Alexander Batischev 1024D/69093C81 F870 A381 B5F5 D2A1 1B35 4D63 A1A7 1C77 6909 3C81 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [SOLVED] Keeping Lenny via /etc/apt/sources.list when Squeeze becomes stable
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Alexander Batischev eual...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 07:12:48PM -0800, Mark wrote: I've seen some emails about using Lenny instead of stable in the /etc/apt/sources.list to force aptitude to keep a Lenny system. Is this the official/accepted method? Yes, that's absolutely normal to use either 'lenny' (with lowercase 'l'!) or 'stable'. You may also use 'squeeze' instead of 'testing' and 'sid' instead of 'unstable'. Thank you, Alexander, this is exactly what I wanted to know. I will use lowercase 'l' as you suggest. Mark
