Re: Replies to the list (was: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection)

2010-04-25 Thread Camaleón 
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:56:07 +0200, Nick Douma wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:47:50AM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:26:33 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> 
>> > P.S.: I never receive your answers by e-mail, despite my subscription
>> > to the list.
>> 
>> And how do you receive my answers? I only post to the list :-?
> 
> Most likely on-line indexers of lists, like Google.

Wow... that involves a lot of work and is awkward.

Does anyone here have to reply to my posts in the same manner? >:-?

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Re: Replies to the list (was: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection)

2010-04-25 Thread Nick Douma 
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:47:50AM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:26:33 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
> 
> > P.S.: I never receive your answers by e-mail, despite my subscription to
> > the list.
> 
> And how do you receive my answers? I only post to the list :-?

Most likely on-line indexers of lists, like Google.


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Replies to the list (was: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection)

2010-04-25 Thread Camaleón 
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:26:33 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> P.S.: I never receive your answers by e-mail, despite my subscription to
> the list.

And how do you receive my answers? I only post to the list :-?

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Re: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

2010-04-25 Thread Merciadri Luca 
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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:57:27 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> This looks like kerneloops sends the oopses through a simple URL.
>> Strange. It seems not to even ping a reference IP to see if the
>> connexion is still alive. Weird.
>> 
>> submit-url = http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php is appended at
>> the end of my kerneloops.conf.
>
> Yes. 
>
> Sorry, I read later this e-mail (see my last reply).
No problem. Actually, kerneloops' website seems not to be really well
achieved. Weird.

P.S.: I never receive your answers by e-mail, despite my subscription
to the list.

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Re: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

2010-04-25 Thread Camaleón 
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:57:27 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> This looks like kerneloops sends the oopses through a simple URL.
> Strange. It seems not to even ping a reference IP to see if the
> connexion is still alive. Weird.
> 
> submit-url = http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php is appended at
> the end of my kerneloops.conf.

Yes. 

Sorry, I read later this e-mail (see my last reply).

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Re: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

2010-04-25 Thread Camaleón 
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:52:11 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> Camaleón writes:

(...)

>> I dunno what method uses kerneloops to send the data (e-mail?). If
>> sends the info by e-mail, you could check Exim's queue by being root
>> and issuing "mailq" command.
>
> Actually, mailq seems to give nothing.

I digged a bit about how the kerneloops daemon works and I guess it does 
not use e-mail but some kind of mix between dbus system to gather 
information about the crash and then it sends the report to the URL 
defined in "kerneloops.conf" file:

http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php

If you directly load that page, it says:

***
200 thank you for submitting the kernel oops information RemoteIP: [...]
***

Although nothing was send :-P

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Re: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

2010-04-24 Thread Merciadri Luca 
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This looks like kerneloops sends the oopses through a simple
URL. Strange. It seems not to even ping a reference IP to see if the
connexion is still alive. Weird.

submit-url = http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php is appended
at the end of my kerneloops.conf.



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Re: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

2010-04-24 Thread Merciadri Luca 
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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:44:46 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> When my Lenny (w. k. 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem) encounters a kernel error, a
>> box pops, and I am asked if I want to report the (de)bug information.
>
> Yes, that's "kerneloops" daemon :-)
Thanks. :-)

>> 1. Why can't I specify somewhere that I always want to report this info?
>> Such boxes are annoying
>
> Yes, you can.
>
> /etc/kerneloops.conf
>
> # Set the following variable to "yes" if you want to automatically
> # submit your oopses to the database for use by your distribution or the
> # Linux kernel developers
>
> allow-submit = ask
>
> Set that to "yes".
Thanks.

>> 2. If I am not connected to the Internet, the (de)bug info is marked as
>> `sent' after having chosen a button which allows the reporting tool to
>> send data over the Internet. Why?
>
> My guess is that kerneloops daemon just says "sent" when you click in 
> "yes" submit button but cannot address if the user is online or not.
That's my guess too.

> I dunno what method uses kerneloops to send the data (e-mail?). If sends 
> the info by e-mail, you could check Exim's queue by being root and 
> issuing "mailq" command.
Actually, mailq seems to give nothing. 

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Re: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

2010-04-24 Thread Camaleón 
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:44:46 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> When my Lenny (w. k. 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem) encounters a kernel error, a
> box pops, and I am asked if I want to report the (de)bug information.

Yes, that's "kerneloops" daemon :-)
 
> 1. Why can't I specify somewhere that I always want to report this info?
> Such boxes are annoying

Yes, you can.

/etc/kerneloops.conf

# Set the following variable to "yes" if you want to automatically
# submit your oopses to the database for use by your distribution or the
# Linux kernel developers

allow-submit = ask

Set that to "yes".

> 2. If I am not connected to the Internet, the (de)bug info is marked as
> `sent' after having chosen a button which allows the reporting tool to
> send data over the Internet. Why?

My guess is that kerneloops daemon just says "sent" when you click in 
"yes" submit button but cannot address if the user is online or not.

I dunno what method uses kerneloops to send the data (e-mail?). If sends 
the info by e-mail, you could check Exim's queue by being root and 
issuing "mailq" command.

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Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

2010-04-24 Thread Merciadri Luca 
Hi,

When my Lenny (w. k. 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem) encounters a kernel error, a
box pops, and I am asked if I want to report the (de)bug information.

1. Why can't I specify somewhere that I always want to report this info?
Such boxes are annoying
2. If I am not connected to the Internet, the (de)bug info is marked as
`sent' after having chosen a button which allows the reporting tool to
send data over the Internet. Why?

Thanks.

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