Re: Kernel update includes nouveau module that clobbers nVidia drivers
On 2010-06-17 00:35 +0200, AG wrote: Since the last testing update I have rebooted and found myself being ensnarled in what seems to be a kernel issue, whereby a module nouveau by default seizes control of the graphics card which prevents the nVidia driver from loading. If you had installed the Nvidia driver the Debian way, this would not have happened, because the nvidia-kernel-common package blacklists the nouveau module which is the recommended way to prevent it from loading. See modprobe.conf(5). Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87eig6tbrv@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Kernel update includes nouveau module that clobbers nVidia drivers
On 17/06/10 07:26, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-06-17 00:35 +0200, AG wrote: Since the last testing update I have rebooted and found myself being ensnarled in what seems to be a kernel issue, whereby a module nouveau by default seizes control of the graphics card which prevents the nVidia driver from loading. If you had installed the Nvidia driver the Debian way, this would not have happened, because the nvidia-kernel-common package blacklists the nouveau module which is the recommended way to prevent it from loading. See modprobe.conf(5). Sven I have always experienced very mixed success installing the driver the Debian way - which is why I now resort to using the proprietary driver. Admittedly, this may be due to my own (quite profound) ignorance, but even when following step-by-step docs, the Debian way just doesn't seem to work. Googleearth complains and won't work, screen resolution goes to hell, and a number of associated issues plague me pursuing that route. But that is good to know that nouveau gets blacklisted automatically using that method. I wonder why it has been included in the vanilla kernel in the first place - it certainly was a nasty surprise! Anyway, FWIW, the method I described is a successful work around for those not using the Debian way. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c19c685.60...@gmail.com
Re: Kernel update includes nouveau module that clobbers nVidia drivers
On 2010-06-17 08:53 +0200, AG wrote: But that is good to know that nouveau gets blacklisted automatically using that method. I wonder why it has been included in the vanilla kernel in the first place - it certainly was a nasty surprise! Because it is necessary for the nouveau X video driver which is the default driver for Nvidia cards in Squeeze. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87631it970@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Kernel update includes nouveau module that clobbers nVidia drivers
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 22:53:57 AG wrote: On 17/06/10 07:26, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-06-17 00:35 +0200, AG wrote: Since the last testing update I have rebooted and found myself being ensnarled in what seems to be a kernel issue, whereby a module nouveau by default seizes control of the graphics card which prevents the nVidia driver from loading. If you had installed the Nvidia driver the Debian way, this would not have happened, because the nvidia-kernel-common package blacklists the nouveau module which is the recommended way to prevent it from loading. See modprobe.conf(5). Sven I have always experienced very mixed success installing the driver the Debian way - which is why I now resort to using the proprietary driver. Admittedly, this may be due to my own (quite profound) ignorance, but even when following step-by-step docs, the Debian way just doesn't seem to work. Googleearth complains and won't work, screen resolution goes to hell, and a number of associated issues plague me pursuing that route. But that is good to know that nouveau gets blacklisted automatically using that method. I wonder why it has been included in the vanilla kernel in the first place - it certainly was a nasty surprise! Anyway, FWIW, the method I described is a successful work around for those not using the Debian way. AG +1 on Debian packages. (thanks) The Debian stuff is the same release as the binary from Nvidia's site, supports the same gpu's, for Debian testing . Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006162325.30760.gomadtr...@gci.net
Kernel update includes nouveau module that clobbers nVidia drivers
Since the last testing update I have rebooted and found myself being ensnarled in what seems to be a kernel issue, whereby a module nouveau by default seizes control of the graphics card which prevents the nVidia driver from loading. Here's some history [1] However, for some nouveau doesn't seem to work as one would hope [2]. The problem is that nVidia drivers don't load and therefore xorg can't find any screens and X doesn't load. The resolution to this problem seems to boil down to two solutions: 1. If you use grub2 then edit /etc/default/grub then add nouveau.modeset=0 to the end of the line that reads GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet (quiet seems a typical default option), so that that line now reads GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet nouveau.modeset=0 run update-grub2 and reboot. [3] 2. Add repository for experimental to apt sources, and in addition to the usual group you'd download to upgrade your kernel (i.e. module-assistant, nvidia-kernel-source, build-essential, etc.) also install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms and pursue the usual update process and reboot. [4] Option 1 didn't work for me, but that might be because I am using lilo and not grub So I removed nouveau directly and then went for option 2 and rebooted. Then I stopped the *DM /etc/init.d/*dm stop and installed the NVIDIA-*-pkg*.run and restarted my *DM /etc/init.d/*dm start All seems to be fine now. How sustainable this is though, I don't know I pass this along and hope that this helps anyone who finds themselves similarly disposed. AG = [1] http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/msg/9ab8ecdc1149f898 http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=151694page=2 [2] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2263528postcount=1 [3] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2263801postcount=8 and http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2263812postcount=12 [4] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=751d48d7876bf377b3e02695fa186ddep=2263851postcount=14 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1951a8.1060...@gmail.com
Re: Kernel update includes nouveau module that clobbers nVidia drivers
On 23:35 Wed 16 Jun , AG wrote: I pass this along and hope that this helps anyone who finds themselves similarly disposed. this also bit a number of others on the list. If you see my post, I banned the nouveau module from my kernel as well as the nouveau packages from xxorg-* and then build my binary nvidia kernel and it worked as well. Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100617042728.ga2...@earthlink.net
