Re: Keyboard randomly generates a `

2000-12-11 Thread Francois Gouget
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Randy Edwards wrote:
  I've seen the freezing on more than one keyboard that subsequently
  became completely useless.  I'd consider a new keyboard based on that
  alone.

   My keyboard has been doing this ever since I got it, about two years
ago. So I doubt it will break down any time soon.


I've seen this behavior on many keyboards: MS Natural clones, Dell
 keyboards, random cheapo-type keyboards -- a wide variety.

   It's nice to see that I'm not the only one with this problem. Have
you ever observed this on Windows or only Linux? Do you have instances
where a keyboard does it while another one of the same brand and model
does not?`
 ^ here it goes again!

[...]
Anyone know what is causing the ` to be generated (bash really likes
 those chars tossed in here or there!:-).

   Yes. gcc and perl are very picky too.


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Re: Keyboard randomly generates a `

2000-12-10 Thread Randy Edwards
 I've seen the freezing on more than one keyboard that subsequently
 became completely useless.  I'd consider a new keyboard based on that
 alone.

   I've seen this behavior on many keyboards: MS Natural clones, Dell
keyboards, random cheapo-type keyboards -- a wide variety.

   I've never seen it at boot or to cause locks, nor experienced the
keyboards failing after a period of time.  I see just a ` character
generated at random times while the machine/keyboard is in operation.

   Anyone know what is causing the ` to be generated (bash really likes
those chars tossed in here or there!:-).

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Re: Keyboard randomly generates a `

2000-12-09 Thread kmself
on Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:01:34PM -0800, Eric G . Miller (egm2@jps.net) wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 08:08:16PM -0800, Francois Gouget wrote:
 The second feature of this keyboard is that sometimes it freezes. And
  this time I know it's the model because it also happens on NT4 and
  Win2000 machines. Doing a cold keyboard reboot (unpluging and replugging
  it) plus a kbdrate fixes it. May be related?
 
 I've seen the freezing on more than one keyboard that subsequently
 became completely useless.  I'd consider a new keyboard based on that
 alone.

One possibility is stuck keys or dirty contacts.  If it's worth the
$15 replacement cost, you *can* disassemble the keyboard and clean
everything out, but you have to dry all the parts thoroughly before
putting them back together.

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Keyboard randomly generates a `

2000-12-08 Thread Francois Gouget

   Hi,

   This is most likely not very Debian specific but here goes.

   From time to time, I'd say at least once a day, my keyboard just
generates a '`'.
   For instance I would be scrolling in a C file in Emacs and suddenly a
'`' appears. Of course I'm absolutely certain that it's not me
accidentally hitting this key.

   I could not find any pattern: it happens in any program, whether the
keyboard has been 'idle' for a long time before or not, but it only
happens when I hit a key. I don't remember it happening in the console 
but I don't spend enough time using it to rule it out.

   Also I know it does not happen in NT 4 and Win2000 (unless the
problem is with my keyboard, not the model). The keyboard is the
standard keyboard that came with a Gateway E-3110 (it says model
2196003. You can check it out here,
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~RJ3M-AOK/keyboard/2196003-XX-XXX.html,
except mine is a qwerty/US version.

My XF86Config 3.3.6 file says:
Section Keyboard
ProtocolStandard
XkbModelpc104
XkbModelmicrosoft
EndSection
 (everything else is commented out)

   So if anyone knows what could be wrong with it let me know.


   The second feature of this keyboard is that sometimes it freezes. And
this time I know it's the model because it also happens on NT4 and
Win2000 machines. Doing a cold keyboard reboot (unpluging and replugging
it) plus a kbdrate fixes it. May be related?


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Re: Keyboard randomly generates a `

2000-12-08 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 08:08:16PM -0800, Francois Gouget wrote:
The second feature of this keyboard is that sometimes it freezes. And
 this time I know it's the model because it also happens on NT4 and
 Win2000 machines. Doing a cold keyboard reboot (unpluging and replugging
 it) plus a kbdrate fixes it. May be related?

I've seen the freezing on more than one keyboard that subsequently
became completely useless.  I'd consider a new keyboard based on that
alone.

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