Lilo question

2004-10-06 Thread Sherman, Michael (GE Energy)

Hi.
I am having a little problem with LILO. I have a machine with Win2000 on the
first IDE drive and I want install Debian on the other drive, which happens
to be SCSI. If in /etc/lilo.conf I specify boot=/dev/hda -asking LILO to
install itself into the MBR, how will I make it aware that Debian kernel
resides in /dev/sda?
Meaning the line image=/boot/kernel-2.6 will make LILO think that Debian is
also in /dev/hda. Has anyone encountered a similar situation?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Lilo question

2004-10-06 Thread Laurent CARON
Sherman, Michael (GE Energy) wrote:
Hi.
I am having a little problem with LILO. I have a machine with Win2000 on the
first IDE drive and I want install Debian on the other drive, which happens
to be SCSI. If in /etc/lilo.conf I specify boot=/dev/hda -asking LILO to
install itself into the MBR, how will I make it aware that Debian kernel
resides in /dev/sda?
Meaning the line image=/boot/kernel-2.6 will make LILO think that Debian is
also in /dev/hda. Has anyone encountered a similar situation?
Thanks in advance.
 

boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/sda1
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Re: Lilo question..

2004-06-01 Thread David Piniella
http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3311postdays=0postorder=ascstart=0
should help you get started.
roughly, after booting from the disk, from a command line (xterm or tty) 
you'll need to mount the debian partitions that you would want to work 
with (mount /dev/hd5 /mnt/hda5) and from there, chroot that directory, 
and from within the chroot mount the /boot partition; you may also need 
to mount /proc but this depends on your setup.

-d.
Ishwar Rattan wrote:
On Mon, 31 May 2004, s. keeling wrote:
 

Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
   

On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote:
 

Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
   

On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote:
 

Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
   

Got a Debian CD?  Or Knoppix?
   

I have Knoppix-3.4 cd.
 

Then you can do anything including boot Debian, make a boot floppy,
fix lilo.conf, move kernels around, etc.  Heck, if your Mandrake
boots, you can do all that too.
   

Can you give me poiters to do that?
-ishwar
 


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Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-31 Thread Robert Epprecht
Ishwar Rattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have Debian/testing on /dev/hda5, Mandrake-10.0 on /dev/hda7 and
 swap on /dev/hda1

 The /etc/lilo.conf (currently set up for Mandrake boot)

 [snip]
 System does boot correctly.

 I added the entry
 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5
   label=debian
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.5
   append=xx...xx
   read-only

 and when command /sbin/lio is run it generates the error

 Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5: No such file or directory

 How do I make it work? My expertise on lilo is limited..

I assume you did run /sbin/lilo from your mandrake system.

The /boot directory of your mandrake system is not the same as the one
from /debian. That's why lilo can't find the kernel. So either copy the
debian kernel and initrd into the mandrake /boot directory or mount the
debian files somewhere before running lilo (adapting the paths in lilo.conf)

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Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-31 Thread Ishwar Rattan


On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote:

 Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
  On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote:
   Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
   
Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5: No such file or directory
  
   When running your debian, what does this say:
  
 ls -l /boot/vmlinuz
 
  Can't boot or run debian as I did not make a boot-floppy :-(

 Got a Debian CD?  Or Knoppix?

I have Knoppix-3.4 cd.

-ishwar


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Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-31 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
 On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote:
  Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
   On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:

 Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5: No such file or directory
   
When running your debian, what does this say:
   
  ls -l /boot/vmlinuz*
  
   Can't boot or run debian as I did not make a boot-floppy :-(
 
  Got a Debian CD?  Or Knoppix?
 
 I have Knoppix-3.4 cd.

Then you can do anything including boot Debian, make a boot floppy,
fix lilo.conf, move kernels around, etc.  Heck, if your Mandrake
boots, you can do all that too.

Find some empty directories in Mandrake, mount your Debian partitions
on them, then fix away.  Or use Knoppix as a rescue disk, boot to
single user, mount Debian partitions, ...


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Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread Ishwar Rattan
I have Debian/testing on /dev/hda5, Mandrake-10.0 on /dev/hda7 and
swap on /dev/hda1

The /etc/lilo.conf (currently set up for Mandrake boot)

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
default=linux
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=
menu-scheme=
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda7
initrd-/boot/initrd.img
append=xx..xx
vga=788
read-only
image= other-entries..

System does boot correctly.

I added the entry
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5
label=debian
root=/dev/hda5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.5
append=xx...xx
read-only

and when command /sbin/lio is run it generates the error

Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5: No such file or directory

How do I make it work? My expertise on lilo is limited..

-ishwar




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Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
 
 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5
   label=debian
   root=/dev/hda5
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.5
   append=xx...xx
   read-only
 
 and when command /sbin/lio is run it generates the error
 
 Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5: No such file or directory

When running your debian, what does this say:

  ls -l /boot/vmlinuz*


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Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Ishwar Rattan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I have Debian/testing on /dev/hda5, Mandrake-10.0 on /dev/hda7 and
 swap on /dev/hda1
 
 The /etc/lilo.conf (currently set up for Mandrake boot)
 
 boot=/dev/hda
 map=/boot/map
 default=linux
 prompt
 nowarn
 timeout=100
 message=
 menu-scheme=
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=linux
 root=/dev/hda7
 initrd-/boot/initrd.img
 append=xx..xx
 vga=788
 read-only
 image= other-entries..
 
 System does boot correctly.
 
 I added the entry
 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5
 label=debian
 root=/dev/hda5
 initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.5
 append=xx...xx
 read-only
 
 and when command /sbin/lio is run it generates the error
 
 Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5: No such file or directory

Probably because the kernel 2.6.5 is in the boot directory on hda5 (the
Debian system), but lilo was run from within Mandrake, and at that
time /boot is on hda7 and lilo cannot find the Debian Kernel.

You should either copy the kernel to the Mandrake boot directory, or
mount hda5 somewhere and point lilo to the correct location 
(e.g. image=/mnt/debian/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5), or (this is what I normally
do) you configure a boot loader in Debian, save it to /dev/hda5 
(boot=/dev/hda5 in lilo.conf on your Debian system), and you add an
entry

other=/dev/hda5
label=Debian

in the Mandrake lilo configuration. This is quite easy to maintain. If
you install a new Kernel on your Debian system, you do not need to boot
or chroot into your Mandrake system and reinstall lilo.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread Ishwar Rattan


On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote:

 Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
 
  image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5
  label=debian
  root=/dev/hda5
  initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.5
  append=xx...xx
  read-only
 
  and when command /sbin/lio is run it generates the error
 
  Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5: No such file or directory

 When running your debian, what does this say:

   ls -l /boot/vmlinuz

Can't boot or run debian as I did not make a boot-floppy :-(

-ishwar


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Re: Lilo question..

2004-05-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
 On Sun, 30 May 2004, s. keeling wrote:
  Incoming from Ishwar Rattan:
  
   image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5
 label=debian
 root=/dev/hda5
 initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.5
 append=xx...xx
 read-only
  
   and when command /sbin/lio is run it generates the error
  
   Fatal: open /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5: No such file or directory
 
  When running your debian, what does this say:
 
ls -l /boot/vmlinuz
 
 Can't boot or run debian as I did not make a boot-floppy :-(

Got a Debian CD?  Or Knoppix?


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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-18 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Clive Menzies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 14:50]:
 On (17/09/03 16:46), Victory wrote:
  Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
  about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.
  
 
 As I understand it lilo is the official debian bootloader [...]

default != official.

my grub systems are no less debian than any lilo systems!

IMO, grub is vastly superior to LILO.  The ability to reconfigure
everything at run-time is one of those features that you just can't go
back from.  LILO gets the job done for day-to-day work, generally, but
whenever you have to reconfigure the boot loader, if you're working
with a grub system, you're a much happier camper.

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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-18 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Victory ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 13:51]:
 Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
 about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.

Please don't post questions to the list by replying to unrelated posts.
While you changed the subject of your message to something appropriate,
your message includes headers (In-Reply-To and References) marking it as
a reply to the unrelated message.

This screws up people using mail readers capable of displaying the
threaded nature of the mailing list (which I advise you to use as well;
I can't imagine following a list of this volume without it!).  The
programs that run to generate the mailing list archives on the web also
display the messages sorted and referenced by thread, so stringing
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potentially confusing to later readers of the archives as well.

If you don't understand what I'm talking about with threading, please go
see the list archives on the web.

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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-18 Thread Sebastian Kapfer
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:20:09 +0200, Chris McQueeny wrote:

 As Ext/3 has matured a great deal since it was released, my opinion is
 that it is entirely superior to Ext/2 at least. The journalling
 capabilities greatly increase speed and reliability in many cases.

It increases speed in exactly one case: When the system has crashed or
suffered a power loss without cleanly unmounting the disks. Then, ext3
will save you a fsck run. In all other cases, performance can't be any
better than plain old ext2. I'd expect it to perform worse than ext2
actually.

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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-18 Thread Victory
The reason I'm asking for this because in the past I been using GRUB
for RH and now I'm switch to Debian and now using LILO w. ext3 fs.

The problem I have right now is if someone turn the power off without
shutting
computer down proper way, then when the system turn back on, it go through
fsck  .../dev/sda1 and got to the point:

/dev/sda1: UNXEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
(i.e., without -a or -p option)
at this point, it give me a option to:

Give root passwd for maintenance
(or type Control-D for nornal startup):

This is the problem for me because this machine is only networking and had
no monitor
attach to it, so I don't know what going with the system.
Is there a way to force the system run fsck without going to maintenane mode
to run fsck for /dev/sda1 ???


Regards,
Victory,




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From: Carla Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: grub/lilo question


 On Wednesday 17 September 2003 1:46 pm, Victory wrote:
  Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
  about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.
 
  Regards,
  Victor.

 1. GRUB contains its own little command shell, for passing in or editing
 commands at boot time. It can read from a configuration file. It supports
 many filesystems, currently BSD FFS, DOS FAT16 and FAT32, Minix fs, Linux
 ext2fs, ReiserFS, and VSTa fs; and blocklists for files that do not appear
in
 filesystems, such as chainloaders.

 GRUB reads filesystems and kernel executables, rather than inflexibly
 restricting the user to disk geometry.  Install and remove operating
systems
 as needed. Boot bare kernels, passing in modules and parameters from the
 command line. GRUB will even download OS images over the network.

 GRUB does not need a /boot partition, just let it own the MBR.

 2. ext3 is the journaled version of ext2. It's really just an extension to

 ext2. You can convert back and forth, I don't know why you would want to,
but
 you can. With other journaling filesystems, such as ReiserFS or JFS, there
is
 no compatibility with other filesystems, so once you choose it, it's not
easy
 to make a change. There is no reason I can think of to not use a
journaling
 filesystem, any of the major Linux ones are good.

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grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Victory
Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.

Regards,
Victor.


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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Clive Menzies
On (17/09/03 16:46), Victory wrote:
 Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
 about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.
 

As I understand it lilo is the official debian bootloader but is not as
flexible as grub for booting many different kernels.  I've used both and
lilo is automatically set up during the install.  Grub requires a bit of
configuring but once working it is straight forward and smooth ;)

http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2002102200426NWDBSW describes the
grub set up well

ext2 v ext3 is a bit beyond my knowledge ;)

HTH

Clive


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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Chris McQueeny
If you mean how well they (e.g., grub and ext2) work together, any 
combination of these should work harmoniously. If you have a seperate 
/boot partition though, it will need to be ~64 mb to use Ext/3. (This 
extra space is taken up by the journal file.)

If, on the other hand, you mean how are they individually, then I would 
first say that the choice between grub  lilo is mostly arbitrary. On a 
modern computer, either should work well; lilo has easier configuration 
syntax, but grub is much more advanced. As far as the filesystems are 
concerned, nowadays it is very clear-cut. As Ext/3 has matured a great 
deal since it was released, my opinion is that it is entirely superior 
to Ext/2 at least. The journalling capabilities greatly increase speed 
and reliability in many cases. I personally use SGI's XFS, but Ext/3 is 
a good choice.

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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Carla Schroder
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 1:46 pm, Victory wrote:
 Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
 about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.

 Regards,
 Victor.

1. GRUB contains its own little command shell, for passing in or editing 
commands at boot time. It can read from a configuration file. It supports 
many filesystems, currently BSD FFS, DOS FAT16 and FAT32, Minix fs, Linux 
ext2fs, ReiserFS, and VSTa fs; and blocklists for files that do not appear in 
filesystems, such as chainloaders.

GRUB reads filesystems and kernel executables, rather than inflexibly 
restricting the user to disk geometry.  Install and remove operating systems 
as needed. Boot bare kernels, passing in modules and parameters from the 
command line. GRUB will even download OS images over the network.

GRUB does not need a /boot partition, just let it own the MBR. 

2. ext3 is the journaled version of ext2. It's really just an extension to 
ext2. You can convert back and forth, I don't know why you would want to, but 
you can. With other journaling filesystems, such as ReiserFS or JFS, there is 
no compatibility with other filesystems, so once you choose it, it's not easy 
to make a change. There is no reason I can think of to not use a journaling 
filesystem, any of the major Linux ones are good.

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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:20:05 -0700, 
Carla Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wednesday 17 September 2003 1:46 pm, Victory wrote:
  Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
  about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.
 
  Regards,
  Victor.
 
 1. GRUB contains its own little command shell, for passing in or
 editing commands at boot time. It can read from a configuration file.
 It supports many filesystems, currently BSD FFS, DOS FAT16 and FAT32,
 Minix fs, Linux ext2fs, ReiserFS, and VSTa fs; and blocklists for
 files that do not appear in filesystems, such as chainloaders.
 
 GRUB reads filesystems and kernel executables, rather than inflexibly 
 restricting the user to disk geometry.  Install and remove operating
 systems as needed. Boot bare kernels, passing in modules and
 parameters from the command line. GRUB will even download OS images
 over the network.
 
 GRUB does not need a /boot partition, just let it own the MBR. 

..is Grub far from being able to boot off a cd now?

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Newbee Dual Linux Install and Lilo question...

2002-12-09 Thread Kris
Ok I have a fully installed and functioning debian install of Linux on 1
partition.  I now have a second partition of 700mb that I want to install a
second fully functional debian on.  I was going to do this via the cd and
have it install on the second partition this time.  Do I need to make any
changes to lilo before I do this or do I make the changes after I install
the fully functional Linux on the second partition.  Thanks Kris


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RE: LILO question

2001-07-13 Thread mjevans1983011
Duh; sorry I forgot about this... I don't know if you can get away with
doing this the easy way.

Ok first stage, Lilo is installed on /dev/hda so it's in the MBR.  Second
you need to make /dev/hdb1 ACTIVE.  If you do not know how to do this read
'man fdisk'.  You only need to make it active, not otherwise change your
partition table...

It will either then boot, or you're going to have to fake windows out about
your partition table...  That's hard and I've never done it before.  It's in
the lilo documentation though. Which should be someplace like /usr/doc/lilo/
and you'll need to be root to run lilo anyway...

-Original Message-
From: Mannequin* [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mannequin*
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 01:13
To: mjevans1983011
Subject: Re: LILO question

mjevans1983011 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Your windows entry looks like...
 other=/dev/hdb1
   label=winlabel
 etc?

Yeah, I've tried that and other=/dev/hdb. Neither of them have
worked. One locks the computer up, and the other asks for a boot
disk.

-Mannequin*

 -Original Message-
 From: Mannequin* [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mannequin*
 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 04:12
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: LILO question

 I know this has probably been asked on here before, but I'm running
 Debian Stable on my i686 and I'm having problems with LILO. Basically,
 I have Debian installed on /dev/hda and Windoze on /dev/hdb. LILO is
 install on the boot block of /dev/hda. So here is where my problem
 lies; I cannot get LILO to boot my Windoze drive at all. I've looked
 through the man pages for lilo.conf, but to no avail. I'm assuming
 from previous installations that Windozes' boot block is on
 /dev/hdb1. Can anyone give me any help in this situation?

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Re: LILO question

2001-07-13 Thread Mannequin*
mjevans1983011 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Duh; sorry I forgot about this... I don't know if you can get away with
 doing this the easy way.
 
 Ok first stage, Lilo is installed on /dev/hda so it's in the MBR.  Second
 you need to make /dev/hdb1 ACTIVE.  If you do not know how to do this read
 'man fdisk'.  You only need to make it active, not otherwise change your
 partition table...
 
 It will either then boot, or you're going to have to fake windows out about
 your partition table...  That's hard and I've never done it before.  It's in
 the lilo documentation though. Which should be someplace like /usr/doc/lilo/
 and you'll need to be root to run lilo anyway...

Well, I think I might have done it the hard way. *grins* Romain
Lerallut responded and said to do this to my /etc/lilo.conf:

...
other=/dev/hdb1
label=windows
map-drive=0x80
to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
to=0x80
...

I just did that, and it worked immediately. Thanks for your help,
though.

-Mannequin*



Re: LILO question

2001-07-11 Thread Guy Geens
 mannequin == mannequin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

mannequin I know this has probably been asked on here before, but I'm
mannequin running Debian Stable on my i686 and I'm having problems
mannequin with LILO. Basically, I have Debian installed on /dev/hda
mannequin and Windoze on /dev/hdb. LILO is install on the boot block
mannequin of /dev/hda. So here is where my problem lies; I cannot get
mannequin LILO to boot my Windoze drive at all. I've looked through

AFAIK, Windows doesn't like to be booted from the second hard disk.
Swap the drives, and life will be a lot easier.

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Re: LILO question

2001-07-11 Thread Romain Lerallut
Thus spake Guy Geens on Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:41:00PM +0200:
  mannequin == mannequin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 mannequin I know this has probably been asked on here before, but I'm
 mannequin running Debian Stable on my i686 and I'm having problems
 mannequin with LILO. Basically, I have Debian installed on /dev/hda
 mannequin and Windoze on /dev/hdb. LILO is install on the boot block
 mannequin of /dev/hda. So here is where my problem lies; I cannot get
 mannequin LILO to boot my Windoze drive at all. I've looked through
 
 AFAIK, Windows doesn't like to be booted from the second hard disk.
 Swap the drives, and life will be a lot easier.

I agree,

lilo can swap drives depending on which image you want to boot:
/etc/lilo.conf
...
other=/dev/hdb1
label=windows
map-drive=0x80
to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
to=0x80
...

HTH,
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LILO question

2001-07-10 Thread Mannequin*
I know this has probably been asked on here before, but I'm running
Debian Stable on my i686 and I'm having problems with LILO. Basically,
I have Debian installed on /dev/hda and Windoze on /dev/hdb. LILO is
install on the boot block of /dev/hda. So here is where my problem
lies; I cannot get LILO to boot my Windoze drive at all. I've looked
through the man pages for lilo.conf, but to no avail. I'm assuming
from previous installations that Windozes' boot block is on
/dev/hdb1. Can anyone give me any help in this situation?

Thanks.
-Mannequin*



Quick Lilo question...

2001-07-01 Thread Aaron Traas
I've finally got Lilo set up just how I want it, almost. I'd like a boot
option that sends me straight into single user mode. Yes, I know I can
just enter Linux single at the boot prompt (or something similar... I
don't quite remember), but I'm lazy, and would like a boot option I can
select from the boot menu.

Thanks!

--Aaron



Re: Quick Lilo question...

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 12:54:16PM -0400, Aaron Traas wrote:
 I've finally got Lilo set up just how I want it, almost. I'd like a boot
 option that sends me straight into single user mode. Yes, I know I can
 just enter Linux single at the boot prompt (or something similar... I
 don't quite remember), but I'm lazy, and would like a boot option I can
 select from the boot menu.

It's in lilo.conf(5), look for append.

Cheers,


Joost



Lilo Question

2000-12-03 Thread Dale Morris
After hours and hours of aggravation I was finally able to get both
Windoze and Debian installed on my wife's compaq presario. Because of
partioning problems (I think) I had to install win98 in the first
partition and it finally worked fine. I will copy some of the files from
the CD to drive, as suggested by folks here on the list. 

My problem now is that when I installed and configured the kernel for
libranet debian, it overwrote the mbr and now I can't boot windoze from
the hd. Lilo just gives me linux. 

I will get to the man page as soon as I'm not so tired, in the meantime,
I have a couple of questions:

1.) Can I use the Liloconfig tool to include windoze in my lilo
configuration. I know this is a dumb question, I'm just overly cautious
about blowing my /mbr because I have a LS-120 floppy drive that so far
has not allowed me to make any boot floppies. I also have linuxconf on
the machine.

2.) Because of this lack of boot floppies, is there a bullet-proof way
to configure LILO for both OS's?

thanks


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RE: Lilo Question

2000-12-03 Thread Jason Holland
Hi,

 After hours and hours of aggravation I was finally able to get both
 Windoze and Debian installed on my wife's compaq presario. Because of
 partioning problems (I think) I had to install win98 in the first
 partition and it finally worked fine. I will copy some of the files from
 the CD to drive, as suggested by folks here on the list.

Everyone goes through this, its a rite of passage. :)


 My problem now is that when I installed and configured the kernel for
 libranet debian, it overwrote the mbr and now I can't boot windoze from
 the hd. Lilo just gives me linux.

 I will get to the man page as soon as I'm not so tired, in the meantime,
 I have a couple of questions:

 1.) Can I use the Liloconfig tool to include windoze in my lilo
 configuration. I know this is a dumb question, I'm just overly cautious
 about blowing my /mbr because I have a LS-120 floppy drive that so far
 has not allowed me to make any boot floppies. I also have linuxconf on
 the machine.


i don't know about liloconfig.  but if you add these lines to your
/etc/lilo.conf file, you should have no problems

other=/dev/hda1
label=windows

and rerun /sbin/lilo to rewrite the changes.  that is assuming windows is on
the first hard drive (hda), partition 1.

 2.) Because of this lack of boot floppies, is there a bullet-proof way
 to configure LILO for both OS's?

 thanks


hope that helps.

Jason



Re: Lilo Question

2000-12-03 Thread Dale Morris
Thanks for the reply Jason, but it didn't work, probably because of the
boot block I have installed (per directions). Here's a copy of my
lilo.conf file, maybe you can suggest how to edit it properly? 

cheers



 Everyone goes through this, its a rite of passage. :)
 
 
  My problem now is that when I installed and configured the kernel for
  libranet debian, it overwrote the mbr and now I can't boot windoze from
  the hd. Lilo just gives me linux.
 
  I will get to the man page as soon as I'm not so tired, in the meantime,
  I have a couple of questions:
 
  1.) Can I use the Liloconfig tool to include windoze in my lilo
  configuration. I know this is a dumb question, I'm just overly cautious
  about blowing my /mbr because I have a LS-120 floppy drive that so far
  has not allowed me to make any boot floppies. I also have linuxconf on
  the machine.
 
 
 i don't know about liloconfig.  but if you add these lines to your
 /etc/lilo.conf file, you should have no problems
 
 other=/dev/hda1
   label=windows
 
 and rerun /sbin/lilo to rewrite the changes.  that is assuming windows is on
 the first hard drive (hda), partition 1.
 
  2.) Because of this lack of boot floppies, is there a bullet-proof way
  to configure LILO for both OS's?
 
  thanks
 
 
 hope that helps.
 
 Jason
 
 

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newbie Lilo question

2000-08-29 Thread Kevin Liang
Hi,
   I'm getting an x86 machine, and would like to install Debian along with
Win98.  So far, my Debian experience has been limited to the ppc (mac), so
I don't know too much about LILO.  Is the option for LILO in the
install?  And I heard something about the curent lilo supporting booting
beyond the 1024th cylinder.  Does potato come with this ?  

Thanks for any help..

kevin  



Lilo-question

2000-05-04 Thread Johann Spies
I have recently started to use lilo after a few years of using
loadlin.  I have a bit of an unusual setup so please be patient with
my long message.  My setup is as follows:

/dev/hda1 redhat 
/dev/hdc2 debian (about 8Gb)

I installed redhat after my /dev/hda broke and I bought a new one. At
that stage I was moving and my debian-stuff was packed already. So I
only use redhat to start up my debian.  

Debian's lilo complains that my debian partition is to large to boot.
My redhat's lilo.conf looks like this:

boot = /dev/hda
timeout = 50
prompt
  vga = normal
  read-only
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
image = /boot/debian
  label = Debian
  root = /dev/hdc2
  hdb=ide-scsi
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15
  label = Redhat
  root = /dev/hda1

First problem: Redhat's lilo complains about line 12: hdb=ide-scsi
Despite this problem I could boot debian as default system and my
scsi-emulation on my cdrom worked.  I was using kernel 2.2.9 so far.

Last night I compiled and installed 2.2.14 with the result:
vmlinuz - boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14

I ran Redhat's lilo again with the same merror message about
hdb=ide-scsi.

Second problem: When I boot the normal way, 2.2.9 comes up as my
active kernel.  Why?  How do I fix it?

Johann
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Re: Lilo-question - solved

2000-05-04 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 09:55:10AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:

 Second problem: When I boot the normal way, 2.2.9 comes up as my
 active kernel.  Why?  How do I fix it?

Sorry.  I was stupid. I did not see that I my lilo.conf refers not to
/vmlinuz but to redhat's /boot/debian.  After copying vmlinuz to
redhat's /boot/debian the problem was solved.

Johann
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Strange LILO question

2000-01-20 Thread Onno Ebbinge
Is it possible to set LILO on a DOS floppy disk
with the default boot for the hard disk and an
alternate boot for the DOS floppy itself?

Regards,

Onno





Re: Strange LILO question

2000-01-20 Thread Ethan Benson

On 20/1/2000 Onno Ebbinge wrote:


Is it possible to set LILO on a DOS floppy disk
with the default boot for the hard disk and an
alternate boot for the DOS floppy itself?


if you mean install the lilo boot sector on the DOS floppy then no, 
dosfs does not leave any room for a bootblock, so installing lilo on 
it would destroy the dos filesystem, which would not be problem 
except you say you want to boot from it.


you can however install lilo on a floppy and have it boot the hard disk.


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Re: Strange LILO question

2000-01-20 Thread Onno Ebbinge
At 01:43 PM 1/20/00 +, Ethan Benson wrote:
On 20/1/2000 Onno Ebbinge wrote:

Is it possible to set LILO on a DOS floppy disk
with the default boot for the hard disk and an
alternate boot for the DOS floppy itself?

if you mean install the lilo boot sector on the DOS floppy then no, 
dosfs does not leave any room for a bootblock, so installing lilo on 
it would destroy the dos filesystem, which would not be problem 
except you say you want to boot from it.

Yes, that is what I ment, maybe I should put LILO on the
hard disk and then set the default boot to the hard disk
with an option to boot from A: ???

you can however install lilo on a floppy and have it boot the hard disk.

Is there then realy no way to boot the floppy also WITH a DOS filesystem?
Probably not :-(

Thanks,

Onno



Re: Strange LILO question

2000-01-20 Thread Ethan Benson

On 20/1/2000 Onno Ebbinge wrote:


Yes, that is what I ment, maybe I should put LILO on the
hard disk and then set the default boot to the hard disk
with an option to boot from A: ???


perhaps, i have never tried it on a floppy (did with a cd and it 
didnt work) you could add:


other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy

to lilo.conf and run lilo WITH the floppy in the drive (otherwise it 
won't work)



 you can however install lilo on a floppy and have it boot the hard disk.

Is there then realy no way to boot the floppy also WITH a DOS filesystem?
Probably not :-(


not with lilo, maybe with syslinux or something.


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Re: Strange LILO question

2000-01-20 Thread Ron Rademaker
 Is there then realy no way to boot the floppy also WITH a DOS filesystem?
 Probably not :-(

I think there is a way, just not using LILO, but loadlin. You just take a
DOS disk boot DOS and make some kind of menu in you're autoexec.bat file
with the choice between dos and linux. (For linux you just do a dos
command loadlin with some arguments.

Ron


Easy lilo question (win95 on /dev/hda, deb. on /dev/hdb)

1999-10-06 Thread Martin Waller

Hello,

Having had to installk win95, I did (on the first hard drive /dev/hda) and 
then installed debian (on second ide drive /dev/hdb).


When it came to the lilo bit, it asked me if wanted to install lilo on on 
/dev/hdb - well, I wanted it on /dev/hda so I said no but it didn;t give me 
the option.


Evreything's installed Ok except I need to use f loppy to boot it.

How can I install lilo on /dev/hda so i can chose between winb95 anf debian?

The docs. I'm afraid have confused me as they are about multiple OS's and 
I'm not really quite sure about installing lilo on /dev/hda - I daren't 
experiment lest I balls things up.


Martin

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Re: Easy lilo question (win95 on /dev/hda, deb. on /dev/hdb)

1999-10-06 Thread Ingo Reimann
Hi Martin
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:52:09AM -0700, Martin Waller wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Having had to installk win95, I did (on the first hard drive /dev/hda) and 
 then installed debian (on second ide drive /dev/hdb).
 
Take a /etc/lilo.conf like that:

# LILO Konfigurations-Datei
# Start LILO global Section
append=auto
boot=/dev/hda
#compact   # faster, but won't work on all systems.
linear
read-only
prompt
timeout=100
vga = normal# force sane state
# End LILO global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
image = /boot/vmlinuz
#
#   ^ Martin, where is Your kernel?

root = /dev/hdb1

#   ^ Martin, where sits your debian ?
#
label = linux
# Linux bootable partition config ends
#
# DOS bootable partition config begins
other = /dev/hda1

#^^ Martin, what is your Primary Dos Partition?
#
#
label = Win95
table = /dev/hda
# DOS bootable partition config ends
#

Try that.

You have to put the correct values for your partitions of that so called OS
from Redmont and for your debian.
Where is your kernel located? 
put that in the line
image=
i suppose either
image =/vmlinuz
or
image=/boot/vmlinuz

then run lilo as root. that should work

Ingo


LILO question

1998-11-10 Thread Jeff Miller
Hello,

I have two hard drives.  Disk0 has Windoze98 and Disk1 has Linux.  I can boot 
to Linux with a floppy.  Without the Linux boot floppy Windoze boots up.

What do I have to do to have a prompt come up at boot time to select one 
operating system or another?  Please be specific as possible so I don't mess up.

Thanks in advance!


Re: LILO question

1998-11-10 Thread H C Pumphrey
On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Jeff Miller wrote:

 I have two hard drives.  Disk0 has Windoze98 and Disk1 has Linux.  I can
 boot to Linux with a floppy.  Without the Linux boot floppy Windoze
 boots up. 

 What do I have to do to have a prompt come up at boot time to select one
 operating system or another?  Please be specific as possible so I don't
 mess up. 

There was a thread on exactly this subject last month. Check the Debian
web pages http://www.debian.org/ or mirrors for the list archives and look
for the thread 

lilo (linux only hd - dos only hd), no solution possible?  

Several solutions were suggested. My heretical one near the end of the
thread is now working happily on my W98/Debian machine.

All the best

Hugh

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Yet another lilo question!!!

1998-11-06 Thread Paul McDermott
What I want to do is very simple.  Yet i can't find a solution to the
problem.  Here is the situation.  (I am asking for someone else i may not
have all the correct informatiofn)
partion my drive with the following
hda1win98  4gig
hda2/  100megs
hda2swap   64mgegs
hda3/usr   2gig
i want to have a lilo.conf file be able to boot either win98.  i can'
figure out what the image=? for the win98 part should be. please can
somebody email me their copy of the linux.conf or tell me what to do.  I
looked into the documentation of lilo and looked on the mail archives and
couldn't find anything.
thank you 
Paul


Re: Yet another lilo question!!!

1998-11-06 Thread Michael Beattie
On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Paul McDermott wrote:

 What I want to do is very simple.  Yet i can't find a solution to the
 problem.  Here is the situation.  (I am asking for someone else i may not
 have all the correct informatiofn)
 partion my drive with the following
 hda1  win98  4gig
 hda2/  100megs
 hda2swap   64mgegs
 hda3  /usr   2gig
 i want to have a lilo.conf file be able to boot either win98.  i can'
 figure out what the image=? for the win98 part should be. please can
 somebody email me their copy of the linux.conf or tell me what to do.  I
 looked into the documentation of lilo and looked on the mail archives and
 couldn't find anything.
 thank you 
 Paul

I use this, change it for yourself, and it should work fine.:

boot=/dev/hda
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
compact
vga=5
delay=100
default=linux
image=/vmlinuz
 label=linux
 root=/dev/hdc1
 read-only
 password=password
 restricted
image=/vmlinuz.old
 label=oldlinux
 root=/dev/hdc1
 optional
 read-only
other=/dev/hda1
 label=Win98
 loader=/boot/chain.b
 table=/dev/hda


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Lilo question

1997-07-18 Thread Kevin J Poorman

I have a 240mb hard drive and a 850mb hard drive in my computer.

I have my partions set up like this

hda1 dos 210mb (soon to be open dos)
hda2 boot for linux 10mb 
hda3 swap for linux 20mb

hdc1 ext2 root partion for linux(850mb)

now I was told by a friend to do my partions this way after I moved my
data over from old 204mb ...(thanks for the help on that)

now my problem is this I can't get the hda2 partion to boot? 

I have run and rerun lilo after makeing the lilo.conf refer to my new hd
and the new partion sceme.

the changes are 
boot /dev/hda2
root /dev/hdc1

from 
boot /dev/hdb1
root /dev/hdb1

but when I run lilo (after booting from the rescue/install disk) I get
this message

Added 2.0.30a *
creat /boo/boot.0302 no such file of directory ...


please any help would be appreceaited

-kevin


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