Re: Laptop email

2000-07-14 Thread Cory Snavely
Wow, yeah, that would work. Good job!

I wanted to avoid building the whole thing myself, you see.

In the Windows 98 build you actually do a File-Offline-something or
other that lets you read (and browse) in an offline mode. It uses the
IMAP cache and the browser cache to do this. Probably it's mainly just
the flick of a switch in the code, really, when you consider both caches
are already there. This menu option isn't present in the potato build,
nor any other UNIX build I've ever seen, for that matter.

I think folks used to assume anything running UNIX was full-time
networked. Just ain't so anymore.

Andre Berger wrote:
 
 Cory Snavely [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  This is the *exact* same problem I have. One possible solution I've been
  kicking around is to set up a low-end server at home with imapd and
  Apache with mod_roaming (for the address books, etc.)
 
  That's a lot of work. To confess, though, I thought it might be fun 8)
  and good practice.
 
  My biggest complaint, though, is that the potato Netscape doesn't seem
  to have the same offline reading capability as the Windows 98 one.
  Does anybody know about that (why that feature doesn't seem present)?
 
 You just have to use it ;)
 
 I have exim to send mail from and fetchmail to download mail to my
 potato box. Add shell scripts to /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ that send and receive
 mail automatically as soon as you go online.
 
 Set (Netscape) Preferences | Incoming Mail Servers 's Server Type
 to Movemail. I had to use External MoveMail
 '/usr/lib/xemacs-21.1.10/powerpc-debian-linux/movemail' from
 xemacs21-nomule's bin package because the Builtin MoveMail didn't
 work. Set the User Name to the login name on your own box (your
 $USER). BTW I have unchecked any other button there. As soon as the
 scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ have finished, you can go offline. Use
 Messenger's Get Msg btn to actually get the mail into Netscape.
 
 Set the Outgoing (SMTP) Server to 'localhost', the User Name to
 your login name on your own box again. If you want to send mail,
 always use the Send btn (not Send later). This will add the
 msg to the exim queue.
 
 Andre
 
 
  Christopher Hicks wrote:
  
   Hi All,
  
   Having just got my laptop back from repair (g) I am ready to
   reinstall operating systems and recover everything from my backups etc 
   etc.
   I'll also take the opportunity to upgrade from slink to potato.
  
   One improvement I would very much like to make over the setup I had before
   is this:  it would be *very* convenient to store my email on a partition
   accessible to both Linux and Win98 (which I have to have for work - sigh)
   such that I can access it with a unified set of folders/address book etc
   from whichever O/S I happen to be in the time. This also requires a mail
   client which runs under both linux and Win98 (or at least a pair of 
   clients
   with compatible file formats).
  
   At first sight Netscape Messenger would seem to fit the bill, but
   unfortunately it seems to use different filenames (for its mail folders)
   under the two O/S's. If the set of filenames were static I could possibly
   get around it with some symbolic link trickery on the linux side, but this
   would limit me to creating new mail folders only in Windows, and then
   manually fiddling to make that new folder work in linux. Yuck. (Also
   Netscape has the one POP server limitation which is a pain since I use 
   two
   POP accounts).
  
   Mahogany looks promising, but I've heard it is still excessively buggy. 
   Does
   anyone have any other suggestions?
  
   Christopher Hicks
  
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Re: Laptop email

2000-07-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 11:47:47AM -0400, Cory Snavely wrote:

 I think folks used to assume anything running UNIX was full-time
 networked. Just ain't so anymore.

It's partly that, but it's also because the application isn't really the
right place to fix things like this.  It's simpler to have mail clients
punt mail delivery issues to a MTA where you can have one set of
controls for the entire system than to have every client try to do
everything itself.  There's no point in having each client arrange for
offline working and trying to get them to interact well when you could
just as easily move that job into a separate program that everything
could use.

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