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On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:37:43PM -0500, David Clymer wrote: > are physically unable to prevent yourself from starting or participating > in this type of thread, please put the conventional [OT] in the subject > line so that uninterested parties can easily filter it out. Hey, cool, I can do that. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 23:37, Number Six wrote: > some gallows humor, then PLONKING them publicly serves a purpose. If > it's intended to be a target, then I'm full of shit. *plonk*. I'm sure that will indeed serve a useful purpose. This is mailing list dedicated to the discussion of Debian GNU/Linux and related topics. Please dont post or respond to crap like this. If you are physically unable to prevent yourself from starting or participating in this type of thread, please put the conventional [OT] in the subject line so that uninterested parties can easily filter it out. -davidc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Maybe, If i couldnt stop it by typin badl in itaclics and hmtl format On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:51:35 +1100, Matthew Joyce wrote: Can I stop this thread by top posting ? > -Original Message- > From: David Jardine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 10:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin > Laden are not welcome > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 05:19:58PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 05:34:42PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > > > > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.ht > > > m > > > I wrote Sunbeamtech and CC:'d the American Institute in > Taiwan (the US > > > does not have an embassey) and the FBI and asked them to > change the > > > product as well. I also reported them to tips.fbi.gov. > > > > I wrote to them and suggested they make an "Anthill Inside" case > > badge. > > > > > The only way to kill the cockroaches is to turn on the lights and > > > watch > > > them scurry away. > > > > No, that leaves them still alive and back in their hidey > holes. If you > > want to kill them, leave the lights off, spray petrol on the floor, > > then chuck a match. > > Well, I think they'll still get back to their hidey holes. But if > you're feeling sadistic (and don't cockroaches make you feel that > way?), you can trap a really big juicy one under an upturned glass, > then trap a couple of ants under the same glass (if you've got > cockroaches, you've probably got ants, too), and watch the > slaughter. > > > > > -- > > Pigeon > > > > Be kind to pigeons > > Get my GPG key here: > > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F > > > > -- > David Jardine > > "Running Debian GNU/Linux and > loving every minute of it." -Sacher M. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Can I stop this thread by top posting ? > -Original Message- > From: David Jardine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 10:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin > Laden are not welcome > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 05:19:58PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 05:34:42PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > > > > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.ht > > > m > > > I wrote Sunbeamtech and CC:'d the American Institute in > Taiwan (the US > > > does not have an embassey) and the FBI and asked them to > change the > > > product as well. I also reported them to tips.fbi.gov. > > > > I wrote to them and suggested they make an "Anthill Inside" case > > badge. > > > > > The only way to kill the cockroaches is to turn on the lights and > > > watch > > > them scurry away. > > > > No, that leaves them still alive and back in their hidey > holes. If you > > want to kill them, leave the lights off, spray petrol on the floor, > > then chuck a match. > > Well, I think they'll still get back to their hidey holes. But if > you're feeling sadistic (and don't cockroaches make you feel that > way?), you can trap a really big juicy one under an upturned glass, > then trap a couple of ants under the same glass (if you've got > cockroaches, you've probably got ants, too), and watch the > slaughter. > > > > > -- > > Pigeon > > > > Be kind to pigeons > > Get my GPG key here: > > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F > > > > -- > David Jardine > > "Running Debian GNU/Linux and > loving every minute of it." -Sacher M. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 05:19:58PM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 05:34:42PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm > > I wrote Sunbeamtech and CC:'d the American Institute in Taiwan (the US > > does not have an embassey) and the FBI and asked them to change the > > product as well. I also reported them to tips.fbi.gov. > > I wrote to them and suggested they make an "Anthill Inside" case badge. > > > The only way to kill the cockroaches is to turn on the lights and watch > > them scurry away. > > No, that leaves them still alive and back in their hidey holes. If you > want to kill them, leave the lights off, spray petrol on the floor, > then chuck a match. Well, I think they'll still get back to their hidey holes. But if you're feeling sadistic (and don't cockroaches make you feel that way?), you can trap a really big juicy one under an upturned glass, then trap a couple of ants under the same glass (if you've got cockroaches, you've probably got ants, too), and watch the slaughter. > > -- > Pigeon > > Be kind to pigeons > Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F -- David Jardine "Running Debian GNU/Linux and loving every minute of it." -Sacher M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Henrik Enberg wrote: Number Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm Frys carries the Sunbeam tech "EL-Case badge" case light products. They do not carry the Osama Bin Laden logo, but you can see it on the back of the "ordinary" images as a choice. THanks for informing me. I'm buying 10 of 'em. good idea. and for the rest: so what. ever thought about all the dead palestinians, nicaraguans, chileans etc. etc. etc ? to whom it concerns: stop acting like the well known yankee hypocrite. steef steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pigeon writes: > No, that leaves them still alive and back in their hidey holes. If you > want to kill them, leave the lights off, spray petrol on the floor, then > chuck a match. A good description of the "war on terror". -- John "It's not a war. It's a crime." Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 05:34:42PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm > I wrote Sunbeamtech and CC:'d the American Institute in Taiwan (the US > does not have an embassey) and the FBI and asked them to change the > product as well. I also reported them to tips.fbi.gov. I wrote to them and suggested they make an "Anthill Inside" case badge. > The only way to kill the cockroaches is to turn on the lights and watch > them scurry away. No, that leaves them still alive and back in their hidey holes. If you want to kill them, leave the lights off, spray petrol on the floor, then chuck a match. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Number Six writes: > My chinese friends tell me the word on the street in Shanghai (videos of > WTC with rap songs behind them) and I hear of the Malaysian PM's comments > and I read of the general tenor of the Islamic Asian countries, and I > feel confident that shit needs to be stirred up. It is precisely the "stirring up of shit" that _causes_ these things. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 03:37:32AM -0800, Number Six wrote: > Funny what pisses you off. Since y'all are all apparently going to write one of your oh-so-stinging little missives over your swooning-issue-of-the-moment, I might as well preemptively get this over with: Fuck you too, Karsten. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:19:34PM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote: > On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 02:39:33 -0800 > Number Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [incoherent babbling] > > Could it be that you're the first really dumb troll I've seen on this > list? There are spammers, virae (I know it's wrong, but I pick a new > wrong plural every time just to piss people off) and AOL users here, but > you get the price. > > In other news, some southern-american country recently started an effort > to get all Che Guevara merchandise off the markets. Funny what pisses you off. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 02:39:33 -0800 Number Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [incoherent babbling] Could it be that you're the first really dumb troll I've seen on this list? There are spammers, virae (I know it's wrong, but I pick a new wrong plural every time just to piss people off) and AOL users here, but you get the price. In other news, some southern-american country recently started an effort to get all Che Guevara merchandise off the markets. -- Got Backup? Jabber: Shadowdancer at jabber.fsinf.de pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 10:22:57AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 05:34:42PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm > > Keep Debian out of this. And for pity's sake pick a From: line and stick > to it; the name-changing got old some time back. Remember the scene from "The In-Laws" where Peter Falk is yelling to Alan Arkin: SERPENTINE SHEL SERPENTINE! and Alan Arken serpentines his way to cover and then pointlessly serpentines his way back to pick up his briefcase it's like that or, if you like, the new Jane's Addiction: Why'd he do it? Just because -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 05:34:42PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm Keep Debian out of this. And for pity's sake pick a From: line and stick to it; the name-changing got old some time back. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:50:33AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:37:34AM +, stephen parkinson wrote: > > might have something to with standing in front of a > > bullseye target ring > > Or a halo. > > If this was 1997, it would be funny. It ain't now. Crosshairs might have made it funny. Regardless, it's just too wierd. It doesn't belong in Frys. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:37:34AM +, stephen parkinson wrote: > might have something to with standing in front of a > bullseye target ring Or a halo. If this was 1997, it would be funny. It ain't now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Number Six wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:54:39PM +1100, Mathew Meins wrote: The Bin Laden one appears to ridicule him, from what I can see at the URL you posted. I really don't know what you're complaining about. The Saddam one has a big nose and looks like a caricature. What feature of the Bin Laden one is distored, exagerated, or funny? Of course I didn't buy it. And of course the FBI shouldn't prosecute them. And of course they have the right to do it. However, they should *not* do it, and the world must be informed of their tendancies. Knowledge is power. Never again will the world not know how this company thinks. Not the most earth-shattering thing, but it is A True Thing. Right always wins in the end. might have something to with standing in front of a bullseye target ring stephen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:07:25 -0500 Sean Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry to jump down your throat. I just feel that a lot of the rights > that I have taken for granted for many years now, are now being > infringed upon by people who have good intentions. I just don't want to > wake up one day and realize that in our quest for security and > protection we have sacrificed our own freedom. "good intentions" . . .spot-on choice of words. "Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." -- Daniel Webster -c P.S. What does any of this have to do with Debian? -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are > not welcome > > > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 11:20:24PM -0500, Sean Donnelly wrote: > > P.S. - This is also an opinion (so feel free to disagree, but > please don't > > call the FBI on me) but I believe that the concentric circles behind Bin > > Lauden represent a bulls eye. If this is the case then it > should now meet > > your standards (as if it mattered in the first place) > > An alternate explanation is it is intended for the Malaysian market. > The only other reference to 'sunbeamtech and "bin laden"' on google > indicates it is not sold in the UK. > > Please do not pretend there is no market for such things. > > > Even if this badge were pro bin lauden (which I do not believe > to be true) > > it creates no danger. Simply having a radical opinion is not > grounds to call > > the FBI. > > Well, I feel squirrelly about my decision as well. It struck me very > much as something one would do in a totalitian state, very Orwellian. > > However, I wrote the company and told them what I did. If there is > nothing wrong going on, all will be quickly forgotten as just another > wierd thing that happened. If there is some criminal activity occuring, > then I did the right thing. If there is no criminal activity but merely > some gallows humor, then PLONKING them publicly serves a purpose. If > it's intended to be a target, then I'm full of shit. > > My chinese friends tell me the word on the street in Shanghai (videos of > WTC with rap songs behind them) and I hear of the Malaysian PM's > comments and I read of the general tenor of the Islamic Asian countries, > and I feel confident that shit needs to be stirred up. > > It's worth it. Sorry to jump down your throat. I just feel that a lot of the rights that I have taken for granted for many years now, are now being infringed upon by people who have good intentions. I just don't want to wake up one day and realize that in our quest for security and protection we have sacrificed our own freedom. Do we expose ourselves to harm by allowing people to move around freely? sure as Sh-t we do. But what is the alternative? We walk a slippery slope and I believe we have lost our footing. We have hit a point where simply disagreeing with the president is deemed unpatriotic. Again, I'm sorry to attack you. I know you wanted to do the right thing and I can't hold that against someone, at least not after calming down :). I'm just afraid that one day in the future we are all going to feel a little squirrelly and its going to be too dam late to do anything about it. "Those who would sacrifice their essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Ben Franklin //steps down off soap box for second time :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 11:20:24PM -0500, Sean Donnelly wrote: > P.S. - This is also an opinion (so feel free to disagree, but please don't > call the FBI on me) but I believe that the concentric circles behind Bin > Lauden represent a bulls eye. If this is the case then it should now meet > your standards (as if it mattered in the first place) An alternate explanation is it is intended for the Malaysian market. The only other reference to 'sunbeamtech and "bin laden"' on google indicates it is not sold in the UK. Please do not pretend there is no market for such things. > Even if this badge were pro bin lauden (which I do not believe to be true) > it creates no danger. Simply having a radical opinion is not grounds to call > the FBI. Well, I feel squirrelly about my decision as well. It struck me very much as something one would do in a totalitian state, very Orwellian. However, I wrote the company and told them what I did. If there is nothing wrong going on, all will be quickly forgotten as just another wierd thing that happened. If there is some criminal activity occuring, then I did the right thing. If there is no criminal activity but merely some gallows humor, then PLONKING them publicly serves a purpose. If it's intended to be a target, then I'm full of shit. My chinese friends tell me the word on the street in Shanghai (videos of WTC with rap songs behind them) and I hear of the Malaysian PM's comments and I read of the general tenor of the Islamic Asian countries, and I feel confident that shit needs to be stirred up. It's worth it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 9:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are > not welcome > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:54:39PM +1100, Mathew Meins wrote: > > The Bin Laden one appears to ridicule him, from what I can see > at the URL you > > posted. I really don't know what you're complaining about. > > The Saddam one has a big nose and looks like a caricature. > What feature of the Bin Laden one is distored, exagerated, or funny? Is that your standard of appropriateness? If something is funny, or at least making an attempt at humor? If so, then there are several racial / ethnic / sexual jokes that should be completely acceptable by your standards. Fortunately, just like decency, humor is a matter of opinion. Opinions are like a--holes, everyone has one and everyone thinks the other guys stinks. P.S. - This is also an opinion (so feel free to disagree, but please don't call the FBI on me) but I believe that the concentric circles behind Bin Lauden represent a bulls eye. If this is the case then it should now meet your standards (as if it mattered in the first place) > > Of course I didn't buy it. And of course the FBI shouldn't prosecute > them. And of course they have the right to do it. If the FBI shouldn't prosecute, and as you said, has absolutely no right to prosecute, why would you report it to them. I'm sure the FBI has more important things to do then to pressure someone into conforming to your standards of decency. > > However, they should *not* do it, and the world must be informed of > their tendancies. Knowledge is power. There are a lot of things that should *not* be done. There are many things that should not be said. Thankfully the United States is a place that allows you to say these things even if people don't agree with it. Can you be offended. Sure. Can you be disgusted. Yes you can. Can you not allow this person to repeat it. No, that is one of the things you can't do. But, feel free to stop listening. I agree, knowledge is power, but knowledge is only attained through the free exchange of ideas (even the ones you don't agree with) > > Never again will the world not know how this company thinks. > Not the most earth-shattering thing, but it is A True Thing. I like beer. Not the most earth-shattering thing, but it is a true thing. And now the world knows how I think. Who cares what people think, as long as they stay thoughts. There are several people who don't like me. It is there right not to like me, as long as it stays just a thought. Even if this badge were pro bin lauden (which I do not believe to be true) it creates no danger. Simply having a radical opinion is not grounds to call the FBI. Now if you had proof that monies earned from this badge were being sent to bin lauden, then you would have cause to call the FBI. > > Right always wins in the end. Please do not delude yourself into thinking that your actions serve some grater purpose. You are not saving my soul. You are not protecting the general public from mass hysteria. You are not protecting some innocent child from the evils of the world. Everyone on this list is capable of making decisions for themselves. If you don't like what this company is selling then don't buy it, but respect my right to make my own decisions. Don't sugarcoat your attempt to force your own morality down others throats as some type of pre-ordained destiny. When you call the FBI please make sure you get my name right. P.S - Don't bother responding since right always wins and I'm right all the time (IMHO that is) //sorry for the rant. I will get off the soap box now. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 18:53:03 -0800 Number Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:43:15PM +1000, Peter A. Cole wrote: > > In fact, I think you'll find the company's laughing because of this sudden > > increase in interest of their website. > > Hey, I'm from the South: there are a lot of people who like the > Confederate Flag, tattoos of Swatiskas, burning crosses, and all that > shit. It makes a lot of money and a lot of people think like that. > > I know all about where your head is at. > I'm from further South, try the land down under :-) I wasn't saying I would buy one, far from it, I just thought the whole topic was a little over stated is all, but I do appreciate your concern. Pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Number Six wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:54:39PM +1100, Mathew Meins wrote: The Bin Laden one appears to ridicule him, from what I can see at the URL you posted. I really don't know what you're complaining about. The Saddam one has a big nose and looks like a caricature. What feature of the Bin Laden one is distored, exagerated, or funny? Of course I didn't buy it. And of course the FBI shouldn't prosecute them. And of course they have the right to do it. However, they should *not* do it, and the world must be informed of their tendancies. Knowledge is power. Never again will the world not know how this company thinks. Not the most earth-shattering thing, but it is A True Thing. Right always wins in the end. It depends on how the 'end' is defined. There have been several 'ends' in history. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:43:15PM +1000, Peter A. Cole wrote: > In fact, I think you'll find the company's laughing because of this sudden increase > in interest of their website. Hey, I'm from the South: there are a lot of people who like the Confederate Flag, tattoos of Swatiskas, burning crosses, and all that shit. It makes a lot of money and a lot of people think like that. I know all about where your head is at. However, I am confident that, in due course, exposing this sort of thing makes it go away, in the shadows, knashing its teeth. Evil always wears a mask, and cannot stand in decent company. Everyone who buys one, and I visit their house, and I see it, I say "well, now I know everything I need to know about *THAT* guy." It serves me too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 03:11:57AM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote: > Number Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm > > > > Frys carries the Sunbeam tech "EL-Case badge" case light products. > > They do not carry the Osama Bin Laden logo, but you can see it on the > > back of the "ordinary" images as a choice. > > THanks for informing me. I'm buying 10 of 'em. We each have to make a choice what side we're on. Hercules himself do what he may. The cat will mew And every dog will have his day -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 18:02:32 -0800 Number Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:54:39PM +1100, Mathew Meins wrote: > > The Bin Laden one appears to ridicule him, from what I can see at the URL you > > posted. I really don't know what you're complaining about. > > The Saddam one has a big nose and looks like a caricature. > What feature of the Bin Laden one is distored, exagerated, or funny? > > Of course I didn't buy it. And of course the FBI shouldn't prosecute > them. And of course they have the right to do it. > > However, they should *not* do it, and the world must be informed of > their tendancies. Knowledge is power. > > Never again will the world not know how this company thinks. > Not the most earth-shattering thing, but it is A True Thing. > > Right always wins in the end. > All that I can see that you've done is promote the product by spreading the website and encouraging people to look at it... In fact, I think you'll find the company's laughing because of this sudden increase in interest of their website. And, as a result of that, if some of the people who look at it aren't offended, they may find increased productivity by way of the increased activity because some of these people may find something they want to purchase... Just my 2 cents worth... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 06:02:32PM -0800, Number Six wrote: > Right always wins in the end. really? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome
Number Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm > > Frys carries the Sunbeam tech "EL-Case badge" case light products. > They do not carry the Osama Bin Laden logo, but you can see it on the > back of the "ordinary" images as a choice. THanks for informing me. I'm buying 10 of 'em. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 12:54:39PM +1100, Mathew Meins wrote: > The Bin Laden one appears to ridicule him, from what I can see at the URL you > posted. I really don't know what you're complaining about. The Saddam one has a big nose and looks like a caricature. What feature of the Bin Laden one is distored, exagerated, or funny? Of course I didn't buy it. And of course the FBI shouldn't prosecute them. And of course they have the right to do it. However, they should *not* do it, and the world must be informed of their tendancies. Knowledge is power. Never again will the world not know how this company thinks. Not the most earth-shattering thing, but it is A True Thing. Right always wins in the end. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 12:34 pm, Number Six wrote: > http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm > > Frys carries the Sunbeam tech "EL-Case badge" case light products. > They do not carry the Osama Bin Laden logo, but you can see it on the > back of the "ordinary" images as a choice. > > I compained to Frys to at least modify the packaging so the products > they carry do not carry a picture of Osama Bin Laden at all. They said > they'd talk to their buyers about it. > > I wrote Sunbeamtech and CC:'d the American Institute in Taiwan (the US > does not have an embassey) and the FBI and asked them to change the > product as well. I also reported them to tips.fbi.gov. Why report it to the FBI? There's nothing illegal about it, freedom of speech and all that. I would have thought they would be preoccupied investigating actual crimes, and things like terrorism. > They have not yet responded. My option as a citizen is to inform the > public about this unfortunate decision this company has made. The > Saddam Hussein image appears to be ridiculing him, but the Bin Laden > does not. The Bin Laden one appears to ridicule him, from what I can see at the URL you posted. I really don't know what you're complaining about. > The only way to kill the cockroaches is to turn on the lights and watch > them scurry away. For those who feel this is the wrong image for a > Taiwanese company to project to their trading partner, please spread > this meme. If you don't like it, you could always not buy it... > Thanks. > > -Tom Ballard - -- Mathew Meins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG key ID: AF8D205A (subkeys.pgp.net) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GIT d- s: a--- C+++ UL UB+++ P+ L++ W+ N++ w--- PGP++ t+ 5++ X++ tv b DI+ D++ - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASoDkW2NK4q+NIFoRAsEAAKCX09XKYOPKeAVIjjWFqSLlqb5qMQCgvS7p XcomY25s/0ZBKJCSLjW0rK0= =JdK7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome
Number Six writes: > The only way to kill the cockroaches is to turn on the lights and watch > them scurry away. The FBI? About a picture? I'd say you're one of the cockroaches. > For those who feel this is the wrong image for a Taiwanese company to > project to their trading partner, please spread this meme. If you don't like it don't buy it. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Let Sunbeam Tech know Case Mod products with Bin Laden are not welcome
http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm Frys carries the Sunbeam tech "EL-Case badge" case light products. They do not carry the Osama Bin Laden logo, but you can see it on the back of the "ordinary" images as a choice. I compained to Frys to at least modify the packaging so the products they carry do not carry a picture of Osama Bin Laden at all. They said they'd talk to their buyers about it. I wrote Sunbeamtech and CC:'d the American Institute in Taiwan (the US does not have an embassey) and the FBI and asked them to change the product as well. I also reported them to tips.fbi.gov. They have not yet responded. My option as a citizen is to inform the public about this unfortunate decision this company has made. The Saddam Hussein image appears to be ridiculing him, but the Bin Laden does not. The only way to kill the cockroaches is to turn on the lights and watch them scurry away. For those who feel this is the wrong image for a Taiwanese company to project to their trading partner, please spread this meme. Thanks. -Tom Ballard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
