Re: LightDM in Linux Mint Debian Edition 201204

2012-05-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:00 +0200, an unknown sender wrote:
 On 07/05/12 12:57, Jason Hsu wrote:
  Has anyone been able to get LightDM to work properly in the latest
  release of Linux Mint Debian Edition (201204)?  
 
 snipped
 
 
 This is Debian *not* Mint.
 
 
 Do we post Linux Mint for assistance when Debian breaks or we're too
 lazy to ask in the right place?
 
 
 Try:-
 http://forums.linuxmint.com/
 
 
 
 Kind regards

The problem is that some Mint is based on Ubuntu and some Mint is based
on Debian. On their homepage there's a huge block print saying Debian
Powered. Their forums aren't helpful. For me it's ok to ask on that
list. At the moment I'm testing several distros to find some that fit
best to my needs. I'll set up a pro audio machine.
I dropped Mint Lisa on my machine, since it wasn't only bad for pro
audio usage, it IMO has to much bugs in general.
People IMO shouldn't use media from computer magazines or editions that
are only known for their flashy layouts.

You should use a real Ubuntu ore a real Debian and than ask for help
on the list that fit to your distro.

Go with Debian stable from the Debian stable media, if the software
versions do fit to your needs. E.g. does some outdated packages anyway
fit to new hardware you're using?
Go with Ubuntu from the Ubuntu Studio media, if you need more up to date
packages and you want a more reliable distro, but e.g. Debian testing,
but without Unity.

YMMV!

Ubuntu Studio for example isn't something like Mint, Ubuntu Studio are
meta packages provided by the Ubuntu repositories, not by third party
repositories. It's not really a tuned audio distro.

What ever distro you'll use, take care that it has got a large
community, such as the Ubuntu or Debian community. IOW, even if it's not
official supported, it shouldn't deviate to the original distro by tons
of special third party packages, but only be an assembly of packages
from the original distro.

If you really need a special distro, with a small community, e.g. EMC2
to get a CNC machine working, than use a multi-boot. EMC2 for the CNC
machine and another distro, e.g. Debian stable for your averaged
computer usage.

If you've got special needs, google for a Linux community sharing your
needs and ask what distros most of them prefer.

For example http://lmgtfy.com/?q=LightDM+mailing+list
On that list you could ask if somebody get LightDM to work properly in
the latest release of Linux Mint Debian Edition, Arch Linux, Debian
stable and openSUSE.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: LightDM in Linux Mint Debian Edition 201204

2012-05-07 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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07.05.2012 05:57, Jason Hsu kirjoitti:
 Has anyone been able to get LightDM to work properly in the latest
 release of Linux Mint Debian Edition (201204)?  I can replace the
 default MDM with LightDM with just apt-get commands.
 
 The problem comes when trying to boot up with LightDM.  During the
 process of loading up LightDM, the screen blacks out and does
 nothing.  I know from the logs I looked at (had to boot up with a
 live ISO and mount the LMDE installation) that LightDM did try to
 start up.
 
 Why doesn't LightDM work properly?
 

You should probably ask on Linux Mint mailing lists, if they have
mailing lists, unless you are using LMDE, which has been full-upgraded
to Debian Sid, but then people might still refuse to answer your
question if you identified your installation as Debianzed Mint.

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Re: LightDM in Linux Mint Debian Edition 201204

2012-05-07 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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07.05.2012 13:04, Ralf Mardorf kirjoitti:
 On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 11:00 +0200, an unknown sender wrote:
 On 07/05/12 12:57, Jason Hsu wrote:
 Has anyone been able to get LightDM to work properly in the
 latest release of Linux Mint Debian Edition (201204)?
 
 snipped
 
 
 This is Debian *not* Mint.
 
 
 Do we post Linux Mint for assistance when Debian breaks or we're
 too lazy to ask in the right place?
 
 
 Try:- http://forums.linuxmint.com/
 
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 The problem is that some Mint is based on Ubuntu and some Mint is
 based on Debian. On their homepage there's a huge block print
 saying Debian Powered. Their forums aren't helpful. For me it's
 ok to ask on that list. At the moment I'm testing several distros
 to find some that fit best to my needs. I'll set up a pro audio
 machine. I dropped Mint Lisa on my machine, since it wasn't only
 bad for pro audio usage, it IMO has to much bugs in general. People
 IMO shouldn't use media from computer magazines or editions that 
 are only known for their flashy layouts.

Linux Mint has two editions. The normal edition is based on Ubuntu,
but it's still not Ubuntu. The Debian Edition is based on Debian
testing (Wheezy), but isn't Debian either.
Being based on something doesn't automatically make it what it's based
on. They ship different software by default and might have done
multiple changes to the distribution where it's based on.

 You should use a real Ubuntu ore a real Debian and than ask for
 help on the list that fit to your distro.

Or whatever distribution you want to use. Linux Mint has a mailing
list http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=152t=73603 .

 Go with Debian stable from the Debian stable media, if the
 software versions do fit to your needs. E.g. does some outdated
 packages anyway fit to new hardware you're using? Go with Ubuntu
 from the Ubuntu Studio media, if you need more up to date packages
 and you want a more reliable distro, but e.g. Debian testing, but
 without Unity.
 
 YMMV!
 
 Ubuntu Studio for example isn't something like Mint, Ubuntu Studio
 are meta packages provided by the Ubuntu repositories, not by third
 party repositories. It's not really a tuned audio distro.
 
 What ever distro you'll use, take care that it has got a large 
 community, such as the Ubuntu or Debian community. IOW, even if
 it's not official supported, it shouldn't deviate to the original
 distro by tons of special third party packages, but only be an
 assembly of packages from the original distro.
 
 If you really need a special distro, with a small community, e.g.
 EMC2 to get a CNC machine working, than use a multi-boot. EMC2 for
 the CNC machine and another distro, e.g. Debian stable for your
 averaged computer usage.
 
 If you've got special needs, google for a Linux community sharing
 your needs and ask what distros most of them prefer.
 
 For example http://lmgtfy.com/?q=LightDM+mailing+list On that list
 you could ask if somebody get LightDM to work properly in the
 latest release of Linux Mint Debian Edition, Arch Linux, Debian 
 stable and openSUSE.
 
 Regards, Ralf
 
 


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Re: LightDM in Linux Mint Debian Edition 201204

2012-05-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 You should use a real Ubuntu ore a real Debian and than ask for help
 on the list that fit to your distro.

If you're using Mint because of Cinnamon, you can switch to Ubuntu and
install Cinnamon from a ppa.


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Re: LightDM in Linux Mint Debian Edition 201204

2012-05-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 12:04:20PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 list. At the moment I'm testing several distros to find some that fit
 best to my needs. I'll set up a pro audio machine.

Have you looked at LFS?
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/

Personally, I've always found a Debian base install sufficient, then you
can fine tune, and tailor the system to your needs.

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LightDM in Linux Mint Debian Edition 201204

2012-05-06 Thread Jason Hsu
Has anyone been able to get LightDM to work properly in the latest release of 
Linux Mint Debian Edition (201204)?  I can replace the default MDM with LightDM 
with just apt-get commands.

The problem comes when trying to boot up with LightDM.  During the process of 
loading up LightDM, the screen blacks out and does nothing.  I know from the 
logs I looked at (had to boot up with a live ISO and mount the LMDE 
installation) that LightDM did try to start up.

Why doesn't LightDM work properly?

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Founder and lead developer of Swift Linux (http://www.swiftlinux.org)
Founder and lead developer of Doppler Value Investing 
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Re: LightDM in Linux Mint Debian Edition 201204

2012-05-06 Thread Indulekha
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 09:57:47PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote:
 Has anyone been able to get LightDM to work properly in the latest release of 
 Linux Mint Debian Edition (201204)?  I can replace the default MDM with 
 LightDM with just apt-get commands.


First:
Linux Mint Debian Edition is *not* Debian, it's Mint.

 The problem comes when trying to boot up with LightDM.  
 During the process of loading up LightDM, the screen 
 blacks out and does nothing.  I know from the logs I 
 looked at (had to boot up with a live ISO and mount the 
 LMDE installation) that LightDM did try to start up.
 
 Why doesn't LightDM work properly?
 

You should provide the relevant bit of the log.
I made a nice cup of tea but sadly, the leaves 
told me nothing about your Mint problem...

Now if you were using Debian, the tea leaves would 
almost certainly have your answer right here in my cup, 
or in some lister's cup anyway.
But since you're posting with a Mint question to a Debian 
mailing list, you'll have to do a bit more work than just 
why doesn't it work?. 

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Re: LightDM in Linux Mint Debian Edition 201204

2012-05-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/05/12 12:57, Jason Hsu wrote:
 Has anyone been able to get LightDM to work properly in the latest
 release of Linux Mint Debian Edition (201204)?  

snipped


This is Debian *not* Mint.


Do we post Linux Mint for assistance when Debian breaks or we're too
lazy to ask in the right place?


Try:-
http://forums.linuxmint.com/



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