Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-23 Thread Chris Smith

That isn't going to work.  The Windows 95 boot manager doesn't exist.  I
don't know what URL you are referring to, but I am willing to bet that it
talks about the windows nt boot manager, which will boot linux.

95 will only boot itself and a previous DOS operating system, and the
latter only if you previously had windows 3.1 installed and chose to
install 95 from the upgrade package in a separate windows directory.  It's
a bit too limited to boot linux from.

Chris Smith
OU

On 22 Jan 1998, Stephen Zander wrote:
 I'd suggest adding Linux to the standard Win95 boot manager.
 There's a URL (which escapes me) that goes into this for Win95/WinNT
 dual-boot with Linux.  Search the list archives.
 
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Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-23 Thread John Spence
On Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 02:16:08PM -0600, Chris Smith wrote:

 95 will only boot itself and a previous DOS operating system, and the
 latter only if you previously had windows 3.1 installed and chose to
 install 95 from the upgrade package in a separate windows directory.  It's
 a bit too limited to boot linux from.


Ah! but the trick is to get the previous DOS Autoexec.bat/dos file to use
Loadlin. 


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Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-23 Thread tko
Ivan Rojas writes:
 
 Well, tanks to all that helped me last week with the lilo problem, but
 I'm stil in trouble with it.
 
 I got Lilo to boot, I mean when the computer starts lilo appears asking
 for what OS to launch. If I select Linux it goes ok, but if I select
 Win95 ( default ) it will launch lilo again!(??)
 
 My lilo.conf is:

Faulty! Make the following changes and re-run LILO. That should fix you up!

 
 boot=/dev/hda1

Boot partition: Do you really want the Win95 boot sector over-written? I
recommend either use the MBR (master boot record) or the Linux boot sector as
follows:

  boot=/dev/hda  ## MBR - head off Win95 and jump directly to LILO

 OR

  boot=/dev/hda2 ## Use Linux to boot Linux.

Your choice, if you elect to use the MBR, make Win95 the active partition. If
you elect to use Linux, make Linux the active partition.


 install=/kernel/boot/boot.b
 map=/kernel/boot/map
 delay=50
 timeout=70
 compact
 prompt
 default=Win95
 image=/kernel/boot/vmlinuz
   root=/dev/hdb1
   label=Linux
   vga=normal

This next section need re-working...

 other=Win95
   label=Win95
   loader=/kernel/boot/chain.b

Change the above to read:

  other=/dev/hda1
  table=/dev/hda
  label=Win95


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Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-23 Thread Chris Smith
 
 Faulty! Make the following changes and re-run LILO. That should fix you up!
 

I would fix him up if the Win95 boot sector hadn't already been
overwritten.  As is, that will just keep the problem from happening again.
This guy has got to sys c: from Win95 as well, to restore the old 95 boot
sector.


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RE: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-23 Thread Ivan Rojas
Thanks to all that have posted to this thread.

Last night finally got it to work and no more boot from floppy ;o)

The final lilo.conf was:

boot=/dev/hda
install=/kernel/boot/boot.b
map=/kernel/boot/map
delay=50
timeout=70
compact
prompt
default=Win95
image=/kernel/boot/vmlinuz
root=/dev/hdb1
label=Linux
vga=normal
other=/dev/hda1
label=Win95
table=/dev/hda

All the prior faulty attemps were solved using lilo -u, that restore the
boot record in /dev/hda1 which I had as boot originally.

FYI, I found very helpfull tips in these urls:
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/ - Very nice Linux HOWTO by Greg
Hankins
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Linux+Win95.html - Handy one by
Jonathan Katz
http://www.compuclinic.com/osr2faq/ - for those who are using Win95
OSR2

Best  regards,

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On Friday, January 23, 1998 8:07 AM, Chris Smith
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Faulty! Make the following changes and re-run LILO. That should fix
you up!
  
 
 I would fix him up if the Win95 boot sector hadn't already been
 overwritten.  As is, that will just keep the problem from happening
again.
 This guy has got to sys c: from Win95 as well, to restore the old 95
boot
 sector.


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Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-22 Thread Ivan Rojas
Well, tanks to all that helped me last week with the lilo problem, but
I'm stil in trouble with it.

I got Lilo to boot, I mean when the computer starts lilo appears asking
for what OS to launch. If I select Linux it goes ok, but if I select
Win95 ( default ) it will launch lilo again!(??)

My lilo.conf is:

boot=/dev/hda1
install=/kernel/boot/boot.b
map=/kernel/boot/map
delay=50
timeout=70
compact
prompt
default=Win95
image=/kernel/boot/vmlinuz
root=/dev/hdb1
label=Linux
vga=normal
other=Win95
label=Win95
loader=/kernel/boot/chain.b

And my partitions:
/dev/hda1 -- Win95
/dev/hda2 -- Linux partition mounted in /kernel ( about 10 MBytes big
at the end of hda )
/dev/hdb -- Linux mounted in /

I really appreciate any help.


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Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-22 Thread Steve Hsieh
For win95 I use:

other=/dev/hda1
  label=Win
  table=/dev/hda



On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Ivan Rojas wrote:

 Well, tanks to all that helped me last week with the lilo problem, but
 I'm stil in trouble with it.
 
 I got Lilo to boot, I mean when the computer starts lilo appears asking
 for what OS to launch. If I select Linux it goes ok, but if I select
 Win95 ( default ) it will launch lilo again!(??)
 
 My lilo.conf is:
 
 boot=/dev/hda1
 install=/kernel/boot/boot.b
 map=/kernel/boot/map
 delay=50
 timeout=70
 compact
 prompt
 default=Win95
 image=/kernel/boot/vmlinuz
   root=/dev/hdb1
   label=Linux
   vga=normal
 other=Win95
   label=Win95
   loader=/kernel/boot/chain.b
 
 And my partitions:
 /dev/hda1 -- Win95
 /dev/hda2 -- Linux partition mounted in /kernel ( about 10 MBytes big
 at the end of hda )
 /dev/hdb -- Linux mounted in /
 
 I really appreciate any help.
 
 
 **
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Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-22 Thread Adam Klein
On Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 09:01:58AM -0800, Ivan Rojas wrote:
 Well, tanks to all that helped me last week with the lilo problem, but
 I'm stil in trouble with it.
 
 I got Lilo to boot, I mean when the computer starts lilo appears asking
 for what OS to launch. If I select Linux it goes ok, but if I select
 Win95 ( default ) it will launch lilo again!(??)
 
 My lilo.conf is:
 
 boot=/dev/hda1
 install=/kernel/boot/boot.b
 map=/kernel/boot/map
 delay=50
 timeout=70
 compact
 prompt
 default=Win95
 image=/kernel/boot/vmlinuz
   root=/dev/hdb1
   label=Linux
   vga=normal
 other=Win95
   label=Win95
   loader=/kernel/boot/chain.b
 
 And my partitions:
 /dev/hda1 -- Win95
 /dev/hda2 -- Linux partition mounted in /kernel ( about 10 MBytes big
 at the end of hda )
 /dev/hdb -- Linux mounted in /
 
 I really appreciate any help.

I think you need to add 'table=/dev/hda' to the Win95 section.

Adam Klein


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Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-22 Thread Chris Smith

I think the problem is different here.  You see, what is happening in the
lilo.conf shown (at least to the best of my understanding, and I am no
expert) is that LILO is installed on /dev/hda1 -- that is, the first
partition.  The stanza you show would just boot from the first partition,
effectively causing the same thing... booting LILO again.

I'm not sure exactly what the best solution is, but the problem could be
solved by either...

-  Changing the first line to boot=/dev/hda, thus installing an MBR, and
then restoring the Windows boot sector on /dev/hda1 (which may be stored
somewhere in /boot -- or in this case /kernel/boot -- or may need to be
restored by booting from a Windows 95 boot disk and typing SYS C:), and
then rerunning LILO with the stanza that Steve suggested.

-  Again restoring the Windows boot sector as described, installing LILO
on /dev/hda2, and setting it active, and using that stanza.

-  Using some options I don't know about because I'm not an expert here.
This looks like what you were trying to do with chain.b.  I have no idea
what chain.b does, and so I can't help you there.

C'ya,

Chris Smith
OU

On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Steve Hsieh wrote:

 For win95 I use:
 
 other=/dev/hda1
   label=Win
   table=/dev/hda
 
  
  boot=/dev/hda1
  install=/kernel/boot/boot.b
  map=/kernel/boot/map
  delay=50
  timeout=70
  compact
  prompt
  default=Win95
  image=/kernel/boot/vmlinuz
  root=/dev/hdb1
  label=Linux
  vga=normal
  other=Win95
  label=Win95
  loader=/kernel/boot/chain.b
  
  And my partitions:
  /dev/hda1 -- Win95
  /dev/hda2 -- Linux partition mounted in /kernel ( about 10 MBytes big
  at the end of hda )
  /dev/hdb -- Linux mounted in /
  
  I really appreciate any help.
  
  
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  RD Engineer/Sys. Admin.  http://www.liikkuva.com
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Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-22 Thread Stephen Zander
Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 -  Using some options I don't know about because I'm not an expert here.
 This looks like what you were trying to do with chain.b.  I have no idea
 what chain.b does, and so I can't help you there.
 

I'd suggest adding Linux to the standard Win95 boot manager.
There's a URL (which escapes me) that goes into this for Win95/WinNT
dual-boot with Linux.  Search the list archives.

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Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-22 Thread David B. Teague

On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Stephen Zander wrote:

 Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  [...]

 I'd suggest adding Linux to the standard Win95 boot manager.
 There's a URL (which escapes me) that goes into this for Win95/WinNT
 dual-boot with Linux.  Search the list archives.

I looked at the list archives, I didnt' find anything.
There is no search engine (yet).

Steve, if you could find that URL, and post it I'd be greatful.
Or if someone else has it ... please, post it, or mail it directly 
to me.

Many thanks.

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Re: Lilo: How to install it? ( Part II )

1998-01-22 Thread m*
David B. Teague wrote:
 
 
 Steve, if you could find that URL, and post it I'd be greatful.
 Or if someone else has it ... please, post it, or mail it directly
 to me.
 

see the HOWTOs at:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/

you'll find Win95+Linux and the WinNT+Linux HOWTO's there.

the Lilo HOWTO is very informative as well.

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