Re: Limited X setup
On 28.2.2010 0:24, joseph lockhart wrote: Hello, been a while since I posted, working on setting up a partition which will run mainly console programs, however, I was interested in setting up X to run a few programs (or maybe the framebuffer) a quick search of the web yielded no help. Any suggestions on where to look. Running lenny from netinstall with some console added already but no graphics yet. Also I have no interest in a GUI for this project. jwlockhart I just install xterm, and get minimal stuff to run software on a remote x-server. -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ Elves and Dragons! I says to him. Cabbages and potatoes are better for you and me. -- J. R. R. Tolkien signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Limited X setup
putting this back on-list... On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 08:03:54PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: --- On Sat, 2/27/10, Andrew Sackville-West and...@farwestbilliards.com wrote: [...] 1. just install only X (package xorg, or even manually pick out packages) without a DE. You don't even need a window manager, you can just run whatever program you want. I used to do this for my kids... no window manager, nothing, just an instance of gcompris for them to play with. Worked fine. thought about this, just wasn't sure if it would work without setting in xorg.conf or something like that often X.org just works without a configuration file. Of course, not always... But I think it's certainly possible to run a very minimal X system both in terms of package weight and configuration tweaks. It just requires care in the installation process. Someone else mentioned installing Xterm, and that's a pretty good idea. It should drag in only the minimal amount of X. .02 A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Limited X setup
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 02:24:05PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: Hello, been a while since I posted, working on setting up a partition which will run mainly console programs, however, I was interested in setting up X to run a few programs (or maybe the framebuffer) a quick search of the web yielded no help. Any suggestions on where to look. Running lenny from netinstall with some console added already but no graphics yet. Also I have no interest in a GUI for this project. jwlockhart Registered Linux User #458799 this user is penguin powered Is this a request for how to run X alone or how to get away from library-heavy, big desktop environments? There are plenty of lightweight window managers available in Debian repos that'll drag in lots of X without lots of desktop libraries. Openbox has almost become my own version of a desktop at this point. Fast, CLI oriented environment with lots of window management and X ability when needed, configured to taste over the years. My GRUB menu selects runlevels configured to 1.) boot directly into CLI with screen, 2.) run .xinit with Openbox or 3.) run GDM with Gnome. An overview of the spectrum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments -- Kind Regards, Freeman http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100301014202.ga4...@europa.office
Limited X setup
Hello, been a while since I posted, working on setting up a partition which will run mainly console programs, however, I was interested in setting up X to run a few programs (or maybe the framebuffer) a quick search of the web yielded no help. Any suggestions on where to look. Running lenny from netinstall with some console added already but no graphics yet. Also I have no interest in a GUI for this project. jwlockhart Registered Linux User #458799 this user is penguin powered -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/209603.14074...@web57514.mail.re1.yahoo.com
Re: Limited X setup
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 02:24:05PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: Hello, been a while since I posted, Hi Joe! working on setting up a partition which will run mainly console programs, however, I was interested in setting up X to run a few programs (or maybe the framebuffer) a quick search of the web yielded no help. Any suggestions on where to look. I haven't tried any of this, except #1, so salt accordingly. 1. just install only X (package xorg, or even manually pick out packages) without a DE. You don't even need a window manager, you can just run whatever program you want. I used to do this for my kids... no window manager, nothing, just an instance of gcompris for them to play with. Worked fine. 2. check out xserver-xfbdev. looks pretty minimal, uses only the framebuffer, and has pretty low dependency level. might be interesting. Its man page points to TinyX which doesn't seem to be in debian, but might be worth a look. 3. There is some thing you can do to fool the X apps into thinking they are running in X, but a really just running in the framebuffer. I don't remember the details, but maybe that will help you search. good luck. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Limited X setup
Hi, On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 02:24:05PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: Hello, been a while since I posted, working on setting up a partition which will run mainly console programs, however, I was interested in setting up X to run a few programs (or maybe the framebuffer) a quick search of the web yielded no help. Any suggestions on where to look. Do not install gdm/kdm/xdm/... when you need X application, start X server from startx. I thought people suggested. (I may be wring remembering things...) Some X server runs on framebuffer, some not. A few applications are designed to run directly on framebuffer. X itself is not so heavy if you know how to use lightly. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch07.en.html (GNOME/KDE are heavy ... though) Running lenny from netinstall with some console added already but no graphics yet. Also I have no interest in a GUI for this project. You do not need GUI but X is GUI. You sound like you want graphics. I do not understand what exactly you wish FYI: You can see graphics from normal non-X console of PC using zgv: SVGAlib graphics viewer razzle: constantly changing 3D stereogram generator All these use SVGAlib. This is very specialized use case though. Osamu PS: I thought there were extensive thread. Have you read posting to mailing list? People usually reply only to the mailing list... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100228072306.ga11...@osamu.debian.net