Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: My specification explicitly says NO connection whatsoever to the internet. The one you posted at the beginning of this thread didn't say that. However, I'm happy to think about other alternatives. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/gmd2s9xujs@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Sposkpat Sposkpat wrote: Get the manpages from The Linux Documentation Project http://www.tldp.org/manpages/man.html http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/man-pages/man-pages-3.45.tar.gz Thank you. I'm new to Linux and keep finding new places to look. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50eeb972.4020...@cloud85.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Chris Davies wrote: Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: My specification explicitly says NO connection whatsoever to the internet. The one you posted at the beginning of this thread didn't say that. However, I'm happy to think about other alternatives. Chris Apologies. It's one of those cases where I knew what I meant. Evidently others did not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50eeba51.6080...@cloud85.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 11:19:31AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? I think I have found the solution to your problem. In the debian-goodies package there is a program called debmany that will show a man page from an installed or uninstalled package. It seems to rely on fetching the manpages from a repository, so you would need to make a local repository out of all those *.deb files, but that's a common enough task. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
On Jo, 10 ian 13, 15:11:44, Darac Marjal wrote: I think I have found the solution to your problem. In the debian-goodies package there is a program called debmany that will show a man page from an installed or uninstalled package. It seems to rely on fetching the manpages from a repository, so you would need to make a local repository out of all those *.deb files, but that's a common enough task. Bash's auto-complete found also debman. Both seem to be able to extract manpages from a given .deb as well. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Greg Madden wrote:
On Saturday 05 January 2013 08:19:31 you wrote:
When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled
package I've used http://manpages.debian.net .
It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally.
Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the
web? [I use squeeze.]
I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set
to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages?
TIA
Check out 'dwww'
To clarify my motivation:
1. divorce myself {as much as possible} from the web -
I'm on dial-up.
2. access all man pages {whether or not package
installed} using the man command.
I've also thought of another possible use for having copy of
all man pages available locally. Create a personalized
keyword search index.
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Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
On 01/08/2013 11:48 PM, Greg Madden wrote: On Saturday 05 January 2013 08:19:31 you wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? TIA Check out 'dwww' At one time there was a big fat book called The Linux Bible that had all the man pages that existed then. I don't know if it still exists, but you might look for that. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50edbfe0.1010...@optonline.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
On Wed 09 Jan 2013 at 14:07:12 -0500, Doug wrote: On 01/08/2013 11:48 PM, Greg Madden wrote: On Saturday 05 January 2013 08:19:31 you wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? TIA Check out 'dwww' At one time there was a big fat book called The Linux Bible that had all the man pages that existed then. I don't know if it still exists, but you might look for that. You'll be glad to know the usual search methods show it does exist. What do you recommend? He purchases it and scans it onto his machine? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130109200601.GN32121@desktop
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
To clarify my motivation:
1. divorce myself {as much as possible} from the web -
I'm on dial-up.
2. access all man pages {whether or not package
installed} using the man command.
Would it be reasonable to utilise a manpage cache with dial-on-demand,
so that pages are delivered from local storage whenever possible, but
that they are retrieved from somewhere remote if necessary?
You'd need some form of negative caching to catch frequently misspelled
words, and you might want to enforce some form of timeout on the locally
cached pages.
Hmmm. This is now starting to sound like a web proxy ... perhaps see
http://people.w3.org/~dom/archives/2006/09/offline-web-cache-with-squid/
http://www.gedanken.org.uk/software/wwwoffle/
Chris
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Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
On 01/09/2013 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: On Wed 09 Jan 2013 at 14:07:12 -0500, Doug wrote: On 01/08/2013 11:48 PM, Greg Madden wrote: On Saturday 05 January 2013 08:19:31 you wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? TIA Check out 'dwww' At one time there was a big fat book called The Linux Bible that had all the man pages that existed then. I don't know if it still exists, but you might look for that. You'll be glad to know the usual search methods show it does exist. What do you recommend? He purchases it and scans it onto his machine? Why scan it in--just open it and read it. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50ede5ba.90...@optonline.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Chris Davies wrote:
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
To clarify my motivation:
1. divorce myself {as much as possible} from the web -
I'm on dial-up.
2. access all man pages {whether or not package
installed} using the man command.
Would it be reasonable to utilise a manpage cache with dial-on-demand,
absolutely _*NOT*_
My specification explicitly says NO connection whatsoever to
the internet.
Now whether anyone other than myself considers that a
[insert adjective implying sanity] restriction is moot ;/
so that pages are delivered from local storage whenever possible, but
that they are retrieved from somewhere remote if necessary?
You'd need some form of negative caching to catch frequently misspelled
words, and you might want to enforce some form of timeout on the locally
cached pages.
Hmmm. This is now starting to sound like a web proxy
No, proxies presume at least occasional connectivity ;/
... perhaps see
http://people.w3.org/~dom/archives/2006/09/offline-web-cache-with-squid/
http://www.gedanken.org.uk/software/wwwoffle/
Chris
BTH friends/relatives/acquaintances consider me strange.
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Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Doug wrote: On 01/09/2013 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: On Wed 09 Jan 2013 at 14:07:12 -0500, Doug wrote: On 01/08/2013 11:48 PM, Greg Madden wrote: On Saturday 05 January 2013 08:19:31 you wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? TIA Check out 'dwww' At one time there was a big fat book called The Linux Bible that had all the man pages that existed then. I don't know if it still exists, but you might look for that. You'll be glad to know the usual search methods show it does exist. What do you recommend? He purchases it and scans it onto his machine? Why scan it in--just open it and read it. --doug May be a worthwhile tome. HOWEVER, None of first 30 Google hits imply it might be accessed via 'man' command ;/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50ee18b7.5010...@cloud85.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Get the manpages from The Linux Documentation Project
http://www.tldp.org/manpages/man.html
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/man-pages/man-pages-3.45.tar.gz
--- On Wed, 1/9/13, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
From: Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net
Subject: Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, January 9, 2013, 5:15 PM
Chris Davies wrote:
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net
wrote:
To clarify my motivation:
1. divorce myself {as much as
possible} from the web -
I'm on dial-up.
2. access all man pages {whether or
not package
installed} using the man command.
Would it be reasonable to utilise a manpage cache with
dial-on-demand,
absolutely _*NOT*_
My specification explicitly says NO connection whatsoever to
the internet.
Now whether anyone other than myself considers that a
[insert adjective implying sanity] restriction is moot ;/
so that pages are delivered from local storage whenever
possible, but
that they are retrieved from somewhere remote if
necessary?
You'd need some form of negative caching to catch
frequently misspelled
words, and you might want to enforce some form of
timeout on the locally
cached pages.
Hmmm. This is now starting to sound like a web proxy
No, proxies presume at least occasional connectivity ;/
... perhaps see
http://people.w3.org/~dom/archives/2006/09/offline-web-cache-with-squid/
http://www.gedanken.org.uk/software/wwwoffle/
Chris
BTH friends/relatives/acquaintances consider me strange.
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Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
On Saturday 05 January 2013 08:19:31 you wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? TIA Check out 'dwww' -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201301081948.19837.gomadtr...@gci.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
On 06/01/13 06:19, Richard Owlett wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? You might have to deal with conflicts - where packages conflict with each other, there's a good chance their manpages will too. Eg postfix, exim and sendmail probably all provide a sendmail manpage. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e934c9.30...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Tom Grace wrote: On 5 Jan 2013, at 17:19, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? TIA First, sorry for top posting. Fixed ;) Generally, manpages are available in the package they relate to, and I'm not aware of an easy way to get all of them. Might you be able to use something like httrack to take an offline copy of a web version of them ? I don't think it would find internal links to follow. But I'll need that reference for another project. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e96523.1020...@cloud85.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Brian wrote: On Sat 05 Jan 2013 at 11:19:31 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Save the pages you download. These are the ones you want to look at, we presume. With the alternates you give below, you suspected [correctly] that wasn't the case ;) You would have to download them anyway, even if you went for the complete collection. But you want ALL pages. Every single one in Debian. Ok, here is an idea: 1. Make a list of all Debian packages. 2. Look at the URL for a particular man page, say vim http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=vimapropos=0sektion=0manpath=Debian+6.0+squeezeformat=htmllocale=en 3. Write a script to feed the items in the list you have drawn up to a program (e.g lynx -dump), replacing query=vim with each item name. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] It is doubtful. But you could provide this as a service. I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? 'ar -x' will get data.tar.gz from the .deb file. 'tar zvxf data.tar.gz' will do the unpacking. The man pages are in /usr/share/man. Something like 'cp' should be able to get at them. I think that points me in the direction I need to go. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e96e22.9020...@cloud85.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Chris Davies wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: 'ar -x' will get data.tar.gz from the .deb file. 'tar zvxf data.tar.gz' will do the unpacking. The man pages are in /usr/share/man. Something like 'cp' should be able to get at them. For any given $PACKAGE deb this will extract the manpages into /usr/share/man (you might prefer to change tar's / to /tmp): ar -p $PACKAGE data.tar.gz | tar xzvCf / - ./usr/share/man Chris I'll have to sit down with man pages a figure out why that does what you say. A large part of my motivation is self-education. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e96fe9.8050...@cloud85.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
On Du, 06 ian 13, 06:29:22, Richard Owlett wrote: Brian wrote: 'ar -x' will get data.tar.gz from the .deb file. 'tar zvxf data.tar.gz' will do the unpacking. The man pages are in /usr/share/man. Something like 'cp' should be able to get at them. I think that points me in the direction I need to go. I don't think dpkg-deb has been mentioned. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Chris Davies wrote: ar -p $PACKAGE data.tar.gz | tar xzvCf / - ./usr/share/man I'll have to sit down with man pages a figure out why that does what you say. ar : archiver. It works on the $PACKAGE archive. The -p flag writes the named member(s) of the archive to stdout tar : tape archiver. The various flags take the next argument from the command line as appropriate: x : extract file(s) named on the command line after other flags have been processed, or extract everything if no files are specified z : input is compressed (gzip) v : verbose output C / : change directory to / before extracting files f - : read from stdin (- could be a filename, to read from that file) Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0p4pr9xqlr@news.roaima.co.uk
Local copy of ALL man pages
When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e860a3.6030...@cloud85.net
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
First, sorry for top posting. Generally, manpages are available in the package they relate to, and I'm not aware of an easy way to get all of them. Might you be able to use something like httrack to take an offline copy of a web version of them ? Sent from my iPad On 5 Jan 2013, at 17:19, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e860a3.6030...@cloud85.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f6fc165b-e85c-4847-8944-24eb674f4...@deathbycomputers.co.uk
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
On Sat 05 Jan 2013 at 11:19:31 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package I've used http://manpages.debian.net . It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally. Save the pages you download. These are the ones you want to look at, we presume. You would have to download them anyway, even if you went for the complete collection. But you want ALL pages. Every single one in Debian. Ok, here is an idea: 1. Make a list of all Debian packages. 2. Look at the URL for a particular man page, say vim http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=vimapropos=0sektion=0manpath=Debian+6.0+squeezeformat=htmllocale=en 3. Write a script to feed the items in the list you have drawn up to a program (e.g lynx -dump), replacing query=vim with each item name. Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use squeeze.] It is doubtful. But you could provide this as a service. I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB drive. How could I extract all the man pages? 'ar -x' will get data.tar.gz from the .deb file. 'tar zvxf data.tar.gz' will do the unpacking. The man pages are in /usr/share/man. Something like 'cp' should be able to get at them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130105200404.GI32121@desktop
Re: Local copy of ALL man pages
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: 'ar -x' will get data.tar.gz from the .deb file. 'tar zvxf data.tar.gz' will do the unpacking. The man pages are in /usr/share/man. Something like 'cp' should be able to get at them. For any given $PACKAGE deb this will extract the manpages into /usr/share/man (you might prefer to change tar's / to /tmp): ar -p $PACKAGE data.tar.gz | tar xzvCf / - ./usr/share/man Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/orpmr9xg5q@news.roaima.co.uk
