Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 11:37:48PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Thanks for all the helpful answers.  I have ordered one of these:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005LFSYZ2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> 
> I shall add a microsdcard at some point to increase the memory.

That's exactly what I use. Enjoy!


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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-05 Thread Joe
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 16:52:40 -0400
Intense Red  wrote:

> 
>I didn't catch the first part of this thread, but I agree with
> you. What I have to wonder about is what is meant by "compatible with
> Debian".
> 

I think: 'able to work as a standard USB storage device', and not
necessarily rely on Windows media functions and auxiliary files. We had
intermittent trouble with 'unknown files' until I discovered the Clip
could do either, and could also be set to 'auto'. It isn't now.

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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 04 October 2014 15:19:26 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> There was a thread about MP3 players a bit back, and one in particular
> found favour.  But my memory, Google-foo, archive-foo have all failed me. 
> Can any kind person remind me/recommend a suitable inexpensive MP3 player
> for me to take on holiday.
>
> I want to be able to load it easily frorm/with a Debian computer, and I
> don't want to spend exorbitant amounts.  It must remember where it got to,
> and I want to be able to select my track/book/whatever.  The very cheap one
> I was given last year restarted at the beginning every time it had been
> turned off. Much as I liked the first track, I got very tired of it.
>
> Thanks,
> Lisi

Thanks for all the helpful answers.  I have ordered one of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005LFSYZ2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I shall add a microsdcard at some point to increase the memory.

Lisi


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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Ric Moore

On 10/04/2014 04:52 PM, Intense Red wrote:

Respectfully, once you're getting above $100 USD, you're better off
getting an cheap android phone/tablet.


I didn't catch the first part of this thread, but I agree with you. What I
have to wonder about is what is meant by "compatible with Debian".

I use a Sansa Clip (e.g.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Clip-Player-Black/dp/B002MAPT7U/). It's
~$30, plays MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, and FLAC files, and has a built-in FM radio.
I stuck a 16GB memory card in it to hold more music than I'll ever listen to
in a day.

Like any sane MP3 player or camera or other device, when I plug the Sansa
player into its microUSB cable on my Debian box, a window pops open in KDE and
it's a drag-and-drop operation to copy/delete files to/from the player.

Definitely recommended.


I have one that is at least 5 years old, and still works a charm, when I 
remember to use it. Ric




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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Intense Red
> Respectfully, once you're getting above $100 USD, you're better off
> getting an cheap android phone/tablet.

   I didn't catch the first part of this thread, but I agree with you. What I 
have to wonder about is what is meant by "compatible with Debian".

   I use a Sansa Clip (e.g. 
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Clip-Player-Black/dp/B002MAPT7U/). It's 
~$30, plays MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, and FLAC files, and has a built-in FM radio. 
I stuck a 16GB memory card in it to hold more music than I'll ever listen to 
in a day.

   Like any sane MP3 player or camera or other device, when I plug the Sansa 
player into its microUSB cable on my Debian box, a window pops open in KDE and 
it's a drag-and-drop operation to copy/delete files to/from the player.

   Definitely recommended.


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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread PaulNM
On 10/04/2014 04:15 PM, John Holland wrote:
> Its More Like 200$, But The fiio X3 is very nice.plays audiophile formats 
> like FLAC as well as mp3.  Fiio is a Chinese company.
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> 

Respectfully, once you're getting above $100 USD, you're better off
getting an cheap android phone/tablet.  Plenty of free apps to play
whatever formats you like, plus other capabilities. Just don't bother
with connecting it to a cellular network.

- PaulNM



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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread John Holland
Its More Like 200$, But The fiio X3 is very nice.plays audiophile formats like 
FLAC as well as mp3.  Fiio is a Chinese company.
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- Original Message -
From: Joe 
Sent: 10/04/2014 - 1:39 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:19:26 +0100
> Lisi Reisz  wrote:
>
>> There was a thread about MP3 players a bit back, and one in
>> particular found favour.  But my memory, Google-foo, archive-foo have
>> all failed me.  Can any kind person remind me/recommend a suitable
>> inexpensive MP3 player for me to take on holiday.
>>
> For which value of 'inexpensive'?
>
>> I want to be able to load it easily frorm/with a Debian computer, and
>> I don't want to spend exorbitant amounts.  It must remember where it
>> got to, and I want to be able to select my track/book/whatever.  The
>> very cheap one I was given last year restarted at the beginning every
>> time it had been turned off. Much as I liked the first track, I got
>> very tired of it.
>>
>
> I don't think you'll get a decent one for less than about £25. My wife
> needed to move on from 'cheap' last year, and we settled on one of the
> Sandisk Clip series, 4GB plus microSD slot.
>
> Two tips (that probably work for any player): if there is a choice of
> USB modes, you want MSC, not MTP. The latter is aimed at Windows Media
> Player users and uses auxiliary files. MSC is Mass Storage Class which
> treats the player as an external USB drive, which is what you want.
>
> Set the region to Rest Of The World, not Europe, or you won't be able
> to hear it. The EU has somewhat restrictive ideas about noise levels.
>
> OK, three tips: make sure the MP3 tags carry artist and album
> information, as the player uses these rather than file and directory
> names. If the MP3s have come from a non-standard source, they may not
> have tags, or not the ones you need.
>
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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Joe
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:19:26 +0100
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> There was a thread about MP3 players a bit back, and one in
> particular found favour.  But my memory, Google-foo, archive-foo have
> all failed me.  Can any kind person remind me/recommend a suitable
> inexpensive MP3 player for me to take on holiday. 
> 
For which value of 'inexpensive'?

> I want to be able to load it easily frorm/with a Debian computer, and
> I don't want to spend exorbitant amounts.  It must remember where it
> got to, and I want to be able to select my track/book/whatever.  The
> very cheap one I was given last year restarted at the beginning every
> time it had been turned off. Much as I liked the first track, I got
> very tired of it.
> 

I don't think you'll get a decent one for less than about £25. My wife
needed to move on from 'cheap' last year, and we settled on one of the
Sandisk Clip series, 4GB plus microSD slot.

Two tips (that probably work for any player): if there is a choice of
USB modes, you want MSC, not MTP. The latter is aimed at Windows Media
Player users and uses auxiliary files. MSC is Mass Storage Class which
treats the player as an external USB drive, which is what you want.

Set the region to Rest Of The World, not Europe, or you won't be able
to hear it. The EU has somewhat restrictive ideas about noise levels.

OK, three tips: make sure the MP3 tags carry artist and album
information, as the player uses these rather than file and directory
names. If the MP3s have come from a non-standard source, they may not
have tags, or not the ones you need.

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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread David Gonzalez
I'm using Sansa Clip+ and it's been great. Additionally I also changed 
the firmware to Rockbox (http://www.rockbox.org/) which has been a 
wonderful experience.



On 10/04/2014 01:11 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:





On 4 Oct 2014, at 16:13, Kumar Appaiah  wrote:

The Sandisk Sansa family is quite good[1]. I personally use the Sansa
Clip+, but have used the old Fuze in the past. While they work out of
the box, many of them support the free alternative firmware Rockbox
for extra goodnessp[2].

Seconded.

Avoid the fuze+ or the clip sport, but the fuze (v2), clip+ and clip zip are 
excellent players and are fully usable from debian. If you get a large capacity 
microsd card, put a fat32 file system on it to use with the sansas. I use a 64G 
but I believe 128G are compatible too.




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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland




> On 4 Oct 2014, at 16:13, Kumar Appaiah  wrote:
> 
> The Sandisk Sansa family is quite good[1]. I personally use the Sansa
> Clip+, but have used the old Fuze in the past. While they work out of
> the box, many of them support the free alternative firmware Rockbox
> for extra goodnessp[2].

Seconded.

Avoid the fuze+ or the clip sport, but the fuze (v2), clip+ and clip zip are 
excellent players and are fully usable from debian. If you get a large capacity 
microsd card, put a fat32 file system on it to use with the sansas. I use a 64G 
but I believe 128G are compatible too.

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Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 03:19:26PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> There was a thread about MP3 players a bit back, and one in particular found 
> favour.  But my memory, Google-foo, archive-foo have all failed me.  Can any 
> kind person remind me/recommend a suitable inexpensive MP3 player for me to 
> take on holiday. 
> 
> I want to be able to load it easily frorm/with a Debian computer, and I don't 
> want to spend exorbitant amounts.  It must remember where it got to, and I 
> want to be able to select my track/book/whatever.  The very cheap one I was 
> given last year restarted at the beginning every time it had been turned off. 
>  
> Much as I liked the first track, I got very tired of it.

The Sandisk Sansa family is quite good[1]. I personally use the Sansa
Clip+, but have used the old Fuze in the past. While they work out of
the box, many of them support the free alternative firmware Rockbox
for extra goodnessp[2].

Kumar

[1]: http://www.sandisk.com/products/music-video-players/
[2]: http://www.rockbox.com/
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MP3 player compatible with Debian

2014-10-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
There was a thread about MP3 players a bit back, and one in particular found 
favour.  But my memory, Google-foo, archive-foo have all failed me.  Can any 
kind person remind me/recommend a suitable inexpensive MP3 player for me to 
take on holiday. 

I want to be able to load it easily frorm/with a Debian computer, and I don't 
want to spend exorbitant amounts.  It must remember where it got to, and I 
want to be able to select my track/book/whatever.  The very cheap one I was 
given last year restarted at the beginning every time it had been turned off.  
Much as I liked the first track, I got very tired of it.

Thanks,
Lisi


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