Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 01:12:33PM +0200, oivvio polite wrote: client = msg.getheader(X-Mailer) or msg.getheader(User-Agent) or unknown You're missing X-Newsreader - some people use newsreaders, which might be sending that. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
Tim Moss writes: Well then, don't forget to count how many of the Outlook messages were sent by viruses and not actual people. Are you saying viruses can't use Debian? Wouldn't that violate the DFSG? Tim said _Outlook_ messages. Since Outlook does not run on Debian, viruses that need Outlook can not use Debian to spread. (As long as Outlook is not run under Wine or something like that. I don't think many people run Outlook on Linux using an emulator/win-API yet.) Cheers Johnny :o)
Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
oivvio polite wrote (on 19 Sep 2001 at 11:27):
Well not exactly dominating. Maybe not secretly either. But it
sounded
good. This oneliner from the department of utterly useless info
tells
it all:
agrep ^User-Agent: ,^X-Mailer: user|perl -ne 'chomp;/.+?:
(.?.?.?[^\d,\(,\[,\/]{1,14}).*/; $o=$1; $o=~s/ //g;print
$o\n;'|sort|uniq -dc|sort -rn
Funny, I'm not in the list, but I can't see where that pipeline
leaves out those of us with Debian in the first Received
stamp.
T.
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Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
Also sprach Nathan E Norman:
Also, a more fair count would associate senders with user-agents ...
if I send 100 emails with mutt, and 10 other users send 10 emails each
with Outlook, which is more popular? (From a number of users
standpoint, Outlook should be the answer). Your script doesn't account
for this.
How silly of me. Obviously I have been duped by MS agents.
Yeah, I know it was all for fun :)
For fun? Have you lost mind? Don't you see what THEY are trying to do.
Obviously you're an MS agent.
New script, counting each sender once. (Couldn't do this in a oneliner. Maybe
I'm an MS agent.) :
#!/usr/bin/env python2
import mailbox, sys, re, string
box = mailbox.UnixMailbox(open(sys.argv[1]))
senders = {}
clientscount = {}
clientregexp = re.compile((.+?)[\d,\/,\[,\.,\(].*)
while 1:
msg = box.next()
if not msg:
break
sender = msg.getheader(From)
if not senders.has_key(sender):
senders[sender] = 1
client = msg.getheader(X-Mailer) or msg.getheader(User-Agent) or
unknown
match = clientregexp.match(client)
if match:
client = match.groups()[0]
client = string.strip(client)
if clientscount.has_key(client):
clientscount[client] = clientscount[client] + 1
else:
clientscount[client] = 1
results = [(key, value) for value, key in clientscount.items()]
results.sort()
results.reverse()
for result in results:
print result[1], result[0]
Result. Pretty much the same. :
Mutt 667
unknown 518
Mozilla 293
Microsoft Outlook Express 263
KMail 169
Gnus 105
Internet Mail Service 71
Microsoft Outlook IMO 61
Evolution 45
QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 38
Sylpheed version 32
Balsa 32
AOL 17
Pegasus Mail for Win 16
Microsoft Outlook 16
WWW-Mail 15
Microsoft Outlook CWS 15
VM 14
exmh version 11
IMP 11
The Bat! 10
ELM 9
SquirrelMail 8
Becky! ver 8
MIME-tools 7
XFMail 6
QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 6
Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition 6
Forte Agent 6
Web Mail 5
Spruce 5
Mew version 5
Lotus Notes Release 5
Pronto v 4
Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 4
Mulberry 4
Gnus v 4
Windows Eudora Pro Version 3
WebMail 3
TWIG 3
Novell GroupWise 3
Mutt http: 3
EMUmail 3
tin 2
mutt-nntp 2
mailgate 2
emacs 2
Visto Server 2
Turnpike Integrated Version 2
QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 2
PocoMail 2
Opera 2
Netscape Webmail 2
NeoMail 2
NIMS ModWeb Module 2
Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 2
MailCity Service 2
MSN Explorer 2
InterChange 2
EMIKO 2
CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v 2
Atlas Mailer 2
Apple Mail 2
ATT Message Center Version 2
slrn 1
nail 1
mutt 1
mPOP Web-Mail 1
internet mail service 1
dMail 1
Windows Eudora Version 1
Windows Eudora Light Version 1
Webmin 1
Wanadoo Webmail 1
WM Professional Edition v 1
Virtual Access by Atlantic Coast PLC 1
Version 1
Unknown 1
Ultrafunk Popcorn release 1
Turnpike 1
TkMail 1
SoftForum-WebMail 1
Sequoia 1
Semi-gnus 1
RMM 1
Postaci 1
Pluto 1
Pan 1
PMMail 1
PHP 1
NMH 1
MyMAIL 1
Mutt- 1
Microsoft-Entourage 1
Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 1
Microsoft Internet Mail 1
Microsoft Internet E-mail 1
Mailsmith 1
Mailer? 1
MacSOUP 1
Lynx 1
Kaufman Mail Warrior 1
KNode 1
Juno 1
JMail 1
J 1
Interfejs WWW poczty Wirtualnej Polski 1
InMail by Insite - www 1
IMHO 1
Gmail 1
GNU Emacs 1
Forte Agent i 1
Excite Inbox 1
Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v 1
Elm 1
Edsamail 1
Daum Web Mailer 1
DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 1
Cronos II 1
CoreCommMail 1
CompuServe 1
Caramail - www 1
Calypso Version 1
CWMail Web to Mail Gateway 1
BeOS Mail 1
AspMail 1
AeroMail 1
IMail v 1
2 1
Alex Hart's Very Own Web Based Email 1
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Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
Also sprach Tony Crawford: Funny, I'm not in the list, but I can't see where that pipeline leaves out those of us with Debian in the first Received stamp. T. Could you elaborate on that? Is there a way of discriminating subscribed posters from unsubscribed posters by watching the headers? BTW X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v4.0, beta 40) you're obviusly an MS agent. -- oivvio polite cell +46 (0)709 30 40 30 / phone +46 (0)8 669 64 18 / fax +46 (0)8 84 00 18 varvsgatan 10A / s-117 29 stockholm / sweden
Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
I wrote: Are you saying viruses can't use Debian? Wouldn't that violate the DFSG? Johnny writes: Tim said _Outlook_ messages. Since Outlook does not run on Debian, viruses that need Outlook can not use Debian to spread. Well, sure. Everyone knows that viruses only work on Windows, so of course they have to use Outlook at work. They can still use Debian at home, though :) -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
On 20 Sep 2001, John Hasler wrote: JH I wrote: JH Are you saying viruses can't use Debian? Wouldn't that violate the DFSG? JH JH Johnny writes: JH Tim said _Outlook_ messages. Since Outlook does not run on Debian, viruses JH that need Outlook can not use Debian to spread. JH JH Well, sure. Everyone knows that viruses only work on Windows, so of course JH they have to use Outlook at work. They can still use Debian at home, JH though :) there is whooping number of 5 trojans/viruses [that i know of] that were written specifically for linux, though none of them worked very well or not at all :) Dingo. ).|.( '.'___'.' ' '(~)' ' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-ooO-=(_)=-Ooo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Petr [Dingo] Dvorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coder - Purple Dragon MUD pdragon.org port -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ 369D93 ]=-=-
MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
Well not exactly dominating. Maybe not secretly either. But it sounded good.
This oneliner from the department of utterly useless info tells it all:
agrep ^User-Agent: ,^X-Mailer: user|perl -ne 'chomp;/.+?:
(.?.?.?[^\d,\(,\[,\/]{1,14}).*/; $o=$1; $o=~s/ //g;print $o\n;'|sort|uniq
-dc|sort -rn
8032 Mutt
1531 Mozilla
1405 MicrosoftOutlook
944 KMail
930 Gnus
524 Evolution
261 QUALCOMMWindows
220 exmhversion
213 Balsa
211 Sylpheedversion
209 InternetMailSer
133 AOL
107 VM
67 IMP
52 TheBat!
51 Prontov
50 XFMail
50 WWW-Mail
31 Spruce
30 SquirrelMail
26 ELM
25 WebMail
25 Becky!ver.
22 NovellGroupWise
22 Mutthttp:
21 VirtualAccessby
20 Elm
17 ForteAgent
17 Edsamail
15 Microsoft-Outlook
14 tin
14 Mutt-
14 LotusNotesRelea
14 DMailWebWebtoM
14 CronosII
12 SEMI
12 GNUEmacs
11 Mewversion
10 mutt
10 mailgate
10 Unknown
9 VistoServer
9 Visto
9 PMMail
9 Mailsmith
9 KNode
9 JAWmail
8 MIME-tools
8 Gnusv
7 WindowsEudoraLi
7 Mulberry
7 MH
6 mutt-nntp
6 mPOPWeb-Mail
6 dMail
6 CalypsoVersion
5 nail
5 WindowsEudoraPr
5 TurnpikeIntegrat
5 TkMail
5 RMM
5 AtlasMailer
5 21.
5 AlexHart'sVery
5
4 emacs
4 TWIG
4 Opera
4 MailCityService
4 EMIKO
4 AppleMail
3 Pluto
3 PHP
3 NeoMail
3 NIMSModWebModul
3 MicrosoftInterne
3 MacSOUP
3 EMUmail
3 CommuniGateProW
3 Becky!ver
2 slrn
2 dtmail
2 Webmin
2 UltrafunkPopcorn
2 Turnpike
2 SoftForum-WebMail
2 Postaci
2 PocoMail
2 Pan
2 NetscapeWebmail
2 Mailer?
2 MSNExplorer
2 Lynx
2 JMail
2 InterChange
2 InMailbyInsite
2 Gmail
2 ATTMessageCent
2 IMailv
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Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
Thus spake oivvio polite on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:27:27AM +0200: Well not exactly dominating. Maybe not secretly either. But it sounded good. This oneliner from the department of utterly useless info tells it all: lol ! Somebody's overdosing on SlashDot :-) Romain -- If you're going to define a shortcut, then make it the base [sic] darn shortcut you can. -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
oivvio polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well not exactly dominating. Maybe not secretly either. But it sounded good.
This oneliner from the department of utterly useless info tells it all:
agrep ^User-Agent: ,^X-Mailer: user|perl -ne 'chomp;/.+?:
(.?.?.?[^\d,\(,\[,\/]{1,14}).*/; $o=$1; $o=~s/ //g;print $o\n;'|sort|uniq
-dc|sort -rn
I believe you can find Pine users by looking at the MessageID (Pine
doesn't appear to set X-Mailer or User-Agent).
Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:01:45AM -0500, DvB wrote:
oivvio polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well not exactly dominating. Maybe not secretly either. But it sounded good.
This oneliner from the department of utterly useless info tells it all:
agrep ^User-Agent: ,^X-Mailer: user|perl -ne 'chomp;/.+?:
(.?.?.?[^\d,\(,\[,\/]{1,14}).*/; $o=$1; $o=~s/ //g;print $o\n;'|sort|uniq
-dc|sort -rn
I believe you can find Pine users by looking at the MessageID (Pine
doesn't appear to set X-Mailer or User-Agent).
Also, a more fair count would associate senders with user-agents ...
if I send 100 emails with mutt, and 10 other users send 10 emails each
with Outlook, which is more popular? (From a number of users
standpoint, Outlook should be the answer). Your script doesn't account
for this.
Yeah, I know it was all for fun :)
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Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
Also, a more fair count would associate senders with user-agents ... if I send 100 emails with mutt, and 10 other users send 10 emails each with Outlook, which is more popular? (From a number of users standpoint, Outlook should be the answer). Your script doesn't account for this. Well then, don't forget to count how many of the Outlook messages were sent by viruses and not actual people.
Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
* Tim Moss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: SNIP Well then, don't forget to count how many of the Outlook messages were sent by viruses and not actual people. That'd be what, about 90%? ;) (couldn't resist...) Mike Pfleger There's seventy brilliant people on earth. Where are they hiding? Yashar -Cabaret Voltaire (off of 2x45)
Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
Tim Moss writes: Well then, don't forget to count how many of the Outlook messages were sent by viruses and not actual people. Are you saying viruses can't use Debian? Wouldn't that violate the DFSG? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
