Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-08 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-01-07 13:07:42 -0500, Brad Sawatzky wrote:
 On Tue, 07 Jan 2014, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
 
  Wait, so explain how i can get my phone connected to my computer?
  There have now been several different and contradicting explanations
  :-(
 
 I have used go-mtpfs with my nexus4, nexus5, and nexus10 under wheezy
 and it works well.

It doesn't work with the Galaxy Note II (though it has worked for
some time in the past).

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696513

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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-08 Thread Valery Mamonov
You can always submit your device's vendor ID and device ID to libmtp
maintainers:

According to http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ :
New Device?

If you happen upon a device which libmtp claims it cannot autodetect,
please:

   - Submit the vendor ID and device ID as a bug, patch or feature request
   on the Sourceforge bug
trackerhttp://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=158745atid=809061
at
   our homepage.
   - If it gives a sensible output from mtp-detect then please attach the
   result as well as it teaches us some stuff about your device.
   - If it doesn't give sensible output, attach the output from lsusb -v
   for your device.




2014/1/8 Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net

 On 2014-01-07 13:07:42 -0500, Brad Sawatzky wrote:
  On Tue, 07 Jan 2014, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
 
   Wait, so explain how i can get my phone connected to my computer?
   There have now been several different and contradicting explanations
   :-(
 
  I have used go-mtpfs with my nexus4, nexus5, and nexus10 under wheezy
  and it works well.

 It doesn't work with the Galaxy Note II (though it has worked for
 some time in the past).

   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696513

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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-08 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:14:32 -0500, Brad Sawatzky brad+deb...@swatter.net 
wrote:

 Yeah, MTP is a pain.  I wish there was at least a choice for a standard
 USB generic mass storage mount option...  oh well.


Problem is, that mass storage would require phone to unmount filesystem 
before making it available for USB mounting by computer. And there would be 
also 
filesystem problems for Windows users.

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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-08 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014/1/7 Brad Sawatzky brad+deb...@swatter.net

 On Tue, 07 Jan 2014, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

  Ive Googled and tried to read up about MTP, but im still not sure how
  to get things working--different sites have you download and compile
  things from scratch, which seems crazy that you can't just plug your
  phone in. I did install mtp-tools, but i can't find mtpfs that many of
  the sites say you need to have.

 Yeah, MTP is a pain.  I wish there was at least a choice for a standard
 USB generic mass storage mount option...  oh well.

 The best MTP software I've found is go-mtpfs.  Unfortunately I don't
 think it is packaged, but it is easy to build and put in $HOME/bin/
 It uses FUSE like the other options, but is _much_ faster.  You can find
 it here:
   https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs

 If you're going to build it yourself, you'll need to install these
 packages first:
 % apt-get install golang-go golang-src libusb-1.0-0 libusb-1.0-0-dev

 There seem to be pre-compiled binaries you can download too (YMMV with
 those).  You'll probably need to install the libusb-1.0-0 library
 anyway.

 I just mount/unmount manually.  One could write a udev/udisks2 rule to
 automate this I suppose.

 HTH,
 -- Brad


+1
works like a charm here, debian jessie. Android 4.1.2 on lg phone.


Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-08 Thread Paul Cartwright

  
  
On 01/08/2014 07:59 AM, Raffaele
  Morelli wrote:


  

   https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs
  
  If you're going to build it yourself, you'll need to install
  these
  packages first:
  % apt-get install golang-go golang-src libusb-1.0-0
  libusb-1.0-0-dev
  
  There seem to be pre-compiled binaries you can download too
  (YMMV with
  those). You'll probably need to install the libusb-1.0-0
  library
  anyway.
  
  I just mount/unmount manually. One could write a udev/udisks2
  rule to
  automate this I suppose.
  
  HTH,
  -- Brad


+1
works like a charm here, debian jessie. Android 4.1.2 on lg
  phone.
  

I did the go-mtpfs per the web site, ran it, but got an error. Not
sure if I was supposed to do anything with this line from the
install:




# edit to suit libusb installation:
vi /tmp/go/src/github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs/usb/usb.go

but here is what happened when I ran it:
go-mtpfs /media/s3
2014/01/08 08:34:26 OpenSession failed: LIBUSB_ERROR_IO; attempting reset
2014/01/08 08:34:33 Configure failed: OpenSession after reset: LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT







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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-08 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014/1/8 Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com

  On 01/08/2014 07:59 AM, Raffaele Morelli wrote:


   https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs

 If you're going to build it yourself, you'll need to install these
 packages first:
 % apt-get install golang-go golang-src libusb-1.0-0 libusb-1.0-0-dev

 There seem to be pre-compiled binaries you can download too (YMMV with
 those).  You'll probably need to install the libusb-1.0-0 library
 anyway.

 I just mount/unmount manually.  One could write a udev/udisks2 rule to
 automate this I suppose.

 HTH,
 -- Brad


  +1
 works like a charm here, debian jessie. Android 4.1.2 on lg phone.

 I did the go-mtpfs per the web site, ran it, but got an error. Not sure if
 I was supposed to do anything with this line from the install:

 # edit to suit libusb installation:
 vi /tmp/go/src/github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs/usb/usb.go

 but here is what happened when I ran it:
 go-mtpfs /media/s3
 2014/01/08 08:34:26 OpenSession failed: LIBUSB_ERROR_IO; attempting reset
 2014/01/08 08:34:33 Configure failed: OpenSession after reset: 
 LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT


exept that I moved the installation path to my ~/bin I followed that
verbatim and worked

/r


Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-08 Thread Anubhav Yadav
go-mtpfs is your answer!! Go ahead. I am using it falwlessly

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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-08 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014/1/8 Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com

  On 01/08/2014 09:59 AM, Raffaele Morelli wrote:

works like a charm here, debian jessie. Android 4.1.2 on lg phone.

  I did the go-mtpfs per the web site, ran it, but got an error. Not sure
 if I was supposed to do anything with this line from the install:

 # edit to suit libusb installation:
 vi /tmp/go/src/github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs/usb/usb.go

 but here is what happened when I ran it:
 go-mtpfs /media/s3
 2014/01/08 08:34:26 OpenSession failed: LIBUSB_ERROR_IO; attempting reset
 2014/01/08 08:34:33 Configure failed: OpenSession after reset: 
 LIBUSB_ERROR_TIMEOUT


  exept that I moved the installation path to my ~/bin I followed that
 verbatim and worked

  /r

  I don't follow.. how do you move the installation path.. like this:

 mkdir home/user/bin/go
 export GOPATH=/home/user/bin/go
 go get github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs

   /tmp/go/bin/go-mtpfs will then contain the program binary.


exactly, but it does not really matter
you'll end up with the binary go-mtpfs so you can place it everywhere


MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
Hi, i'm running Wheezy. I used to have an older Android phone that Just Worked 
with my system, but I upgraded it to one running Android 4.2, and now i can no 
longer figure out how get it to talk to my computer.

Ive Googled and tried to read up about MTP, but im still not sure how to get 
things working--different sites have you download and compile things from 
scratch, which seems crazy that you can't just plug your phone in. I did 
install mtp-tools, but i can't find mtpfs that many of the sites say you need 
to have.

All i want is to be able to plug my phone in via USB and have it visible in the 
filesystem, whether through Thunar or on the commandline. Being able to have it 
work with Banshee wuold be nice too, but i assume that if the phone is visible 
then it will work with any tools.

Thank you.

Jen

Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 07:28:06AM -0800, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
Hi, i'm running Wheezy. I used to have an older Android phone that Just
Worked with my system, but I upgraded it to one running Android 4.2, and
now i can no longer figure out how get it to talk to my computer.
Ive Googled and tried to read up about MTP, but im still not sure how to
get things working--different sites have you download and compile things
from scratch, which seems crazy that you can't just plug your phone in. I
did install mtp-tools, but i can't find mtpfs that many of the sites say
you need to have.

MTPFS is only available in Squeeze and Sid.
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mtpfs 

All i want is to be able to plug my phone in via USB and have it visible
in the filesystem, whether through Thunar or on the commandline. Being
able to have it work with Banshee wuold be nice too, but i assume that if
the phone is visible then it will work with any tools.

One alternative may be to use GVFS. Have a look to see if your
gvfs-backends package supports mtp (apt-cache show gvfs-backends will
say), then perhaps something like gvfs-fuse will do.

Thank you.
Jen


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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum





On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 10:46 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk 
wrote:
 
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 07:28:06AM -0800, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
    Hi, i'm running Wheezy. I used to have an older Android phone that Just
    Worked with my system, but I upgraded it to one running Android 4.2, and
    now i can no longer figure out how get it to talk to my computer.
    Ive Googled and tried to read up about MTP, but im still not sure how to
    get things working--different sites have you download and compile things
    from scratch, which seems crazy that you can't just plug your phone in. I
    did install mtp-tools, but i can't find mtpfs that many of the sites say
    you need to have.

MTPFS is only available in Squeeze and Sid.
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mtpfs 



Hmm. Maybe I should use this as an excuse to upgrade to Sid. If I do, will 
this Just Work, or will I still have to jump thruogh elaborate tasks to set 
things up?


Jen

Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Brad Sawatzky
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

 Ive Googled and tried to read up about MTP, but im still not sure how
 to get things working--different sites have you download and compile
 things from scratch, which seems crazy that you can't just plug your
 phone in. I did install mtp-tools, but i can't find mtpfs that many of
 the sites say you need to have.

Yeah, MTP is a pain.  I wish there was at least a choice for a standard
USB generic mass storage mount option...  oh well.

The best MTP software I've found is go-mtpfs.  Unfortunately I don't
think it is packaged, but it is easy to build and put in $HOME/bin/
It uses FUSE like the other options, but is _much_ faster.  You can find
it here:
  https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs

If you're going to build it yourself, you'll need to install these
packages first:
% apt-get install golang-go golang-src libusb-1.0-0 libusb-1.0-0-dev

There seem to be pre-compiled binaries you can download too (YMMV with
those).  You'll probably need to install the libusb-1.0-0 library
anyway.

I just mount/unmount manually.  One could write a udev/udisks2 rule to
automate this I suppose.

HTH,
-- Brad


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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-01-07 15:46:10 +, Darac Marjal wrote:
 MTPFS is only available in Squeeze and Sid.
 http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mtpfs 

But it doesn't work with Android phones.

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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum

On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 11:43 AM, Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net 
wrote:

On 2014-01-07 15:46:10 +, Darac Marjal wrote:

 MTPFS is only available in Squeeze and Sid.
 http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mtpfs 
But it doesn't work with Android phones.

Wait, so explain how i can get my phone connected to my computer? There have 
now been several different and contradicting explanations :-(


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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Erwan David
Le 07/01/2014 16:28, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum a écrit :
 Hi, i'm running Wheezy. I used to have an older Android phone that
 Just Worked with my system, but I upgraded it to one running Android
 4.2, and now i can no longer figure out how get it to talk to my computer.

 Ive Googled and tried to read up about MTP, but im still not sure how
 to get things working--different sites have you download and compile
 things from scratch, which seems crazy that you can't just plug your
 phone in. I did install mtp-tools, but i can't find mtpfs that many of
 the sites say you need to have.

 All i want is to be able to plug my phone in via USB and have it
 visible in the filesystem, whether through Thunar or on the
 commandline. Being able to have it work with Banshee wuold be nice
 too, but i assume that if the phone is visible then it will work with
 any tools.

 Thank you.

 Jen

On jessie, with kde I can connect in MTP mode. However it only works
when I plug the phone on USB3 ports (on usb2 mtp-detect detects a mtp
device, but not mtp-probe)


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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Erwan David
Le 07/01/2014 17:14, Brad Sawatzky a écrit :
 On Tue, 07 Jan 2014, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

 Ive Googled and tried to read up about MTP, but im still not sure how
 to get things working--different sites have you download and compile
 things from scratch, which seems crazy that you can't just plug your
 phone in. I did install mtp-tools, but i can't find mtpfs that many of
 the sites say you need to have.
 Yeah, MTP is a pain.  I wish there was at least a choice for a standard
 USB generic mass storage mount option...  oh well.
There is on my wiko stairway...


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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 01/07/2014 11:50 AM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
 On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 11:43 AM, Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net 
 wrote:

 On 2014-01-07 15:46:10 +, Darac Marjal wrote:
 MTPFS is only available in Squeeze and Sid.
 http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mtpfs 
 But it doesn't work with Android phones.
 Wait, so explain how i can get my phone connected to my computer? There have 
 now been several different and contradicting explanations :-(


what do you get when you type the command:
$lsusb
. (SNIP a bunch of entries)
Bus 001 Device 027: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100
Phone [Galaxy S II], GT-P7500 [Galaxy Tab 10.1]


and that is wrong, it is showing my galaxy tab 3, which isn't plugged
in. My Galaxy S3 is plugged in..

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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 12:23:47PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 On 01/07/2014 11:50 AM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
  On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 11:43 AM, Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net 
  wrote:
 
  On 2014-01-07 15:46:10 +, Darac Marjal wrote:
  MTPFS is only available in Squeeze and Sid.
  http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mtpfs 
  But it doesn't work with Android phones.
  Wait, so explain how i can get my phone connected to my computer? There 
  have now been several different and contradicting explanations :-(
 
 
 what do you get when you type the command:
 $lsusb
 . (SNIP a bunch of entries)
 Bus 001 Device 027: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100
 Phone [Galaxy S II], GT-P7500 [Galaxy Tab 10.1]
 
 
 and that is wrong, it is showing my galaxy tab 3, which isn't plugged
 in. My Galaxy S3 is plugged in..

Just be aware that the only reliable information lsusb gets from the
device is the manufacturer/device id (04e8:6860 in your case). It then
looks up what that device is in a database on your computer. If the
database is out of date (hint: sudo update-usbids), then the
human-readable description will be wrong. Basically, it's possible that
the S2, the Tab 10.1 and the S3 all share the same device id.



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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Paul Cartwright

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On 01/07/2014 12:31 PM, Darac Marjal wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 12:23:47PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 On 01/07/2014 11:50 AM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
 On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 11:43 AM, Vincent Lefevre
vinc...@vinc17.net wrote:

 On 2014-01-07 15:46:10 +, Darac Marjal wrote:
  what do you get when you type the command:
 $lsusb
 . (SNIP a bunch of entries)
 Bus 001 Device 027: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100
 Phone [Galaxy S II], GT-P7500 [Galaxy Tab 10.1]


 and that is wrong, it is showing my galaxy tab 3, which isn't plugged
 in. My Galaxy S3 is plugged in..

 Just be aware that the only reliable information lsusb gets from the
 device is the manufacturer/device id (04e8:6860 in your case). It then
 looks up what that device is in a database on your computer. If the
 database is out of date (hint: sudo update-usbids), then the
 human-readable description will be wrong. Basically, it's possible that
 the S2, the Tab 10.1 and the S3 all share the same device id.

I just unplugged and plugged back in my phone and got this from lsusb:
Bus 001 Device 028: ID 04e8:685e Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100
Phone [Galaxy S II] (USB Debugging mode)

then ran your update-usbids, then ran lsusb again and got this:
Bus 001 Device 029: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100
Phone [Galaxy S II], GT-I9300 Phone [Galaxy S III], GT-P7500 [Galaxy Tab
10.1]




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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Brad Sawatzky
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

 Wait, so explain how i can get my phone connected to my computer?
 There have now been several different and contradicting explanations
 :-(

I have used go-mtpfs with my nexus4, nexus5, and nexus10 under wheezy
and it works well.

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Re: MTP and Android phones

2014-01-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 07 Jan 09:31 -0600, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
 Hi, i'm running Wheezy. I used to have an older Android phone that
 Just Worked with my system, but I upgraded it to one running Android
 4.2, and now i can no longer figure out how get it to talk to my
 computer.

I was in the same boat last year.  I have a Motorola Electrify M and
when I plug it in all it does is mount as a CDROM drive with a Windows
executable on it.  I tried it on a Windows machine and the EXE installs
the drivers in Windows that allow it to bypass the USB mass storage
device and activate MTP.  It is running Jelly Bean 4.1.2.

After some frustration and help on a forum I was directed to Air Droid
which let me connect to it via WiFi and the later version allows
connection via the Internet through an Air Droid server, if desired.

I don't know if the WiFi/'Net traffic is encrypted or not, so that might
be something to consider.

- Nate

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