Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key
Hi, thanks for reply. Using xev this is what I obtained from the key I would like to re-map: KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x401, root 0x12d, subw 0x0, time 778257, (752,-224), root:(833,354), state 0x0, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff8d, KP_Enter), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) XFilterEvent returns: False Can you paste the response of your right ALT (Alt Gr) so I can understand which is its keycode? Best Ricca On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 09:00:12PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: On 5/2/2012 5:05 PM, Riccardo Romoli wrote: Hi to all, I'm a newbie of Debian but using the Debian-Wiky I was able to install Debian 6 as single boot, on my MacBookPro (v.3.1). The only problem I notice, till now, is about the Alt key. I bought the computer as used from a German guy ignoring that the keyboard has the particularity to has only the left Alt key instead of two. So the right Alt key is replaced by a second ENTER and the left Alt key is used as Meta key instead of Option key. I tried to configure the keyboard with the graphical interface but I wasn't able solve my problem. If, for example I press Alt+Tab, I was able to switch between the different windows, but the Alt key doesn't work both in the various text editors (emacs, gedit...) and in the terminal, to type the extra character such as tilde, square brackets... I think I should re-map my keyboard replacing the extra ENTER with the Alt(Option) key but I have no idea how to do this. Do you have any suggestion? Install the package xev if you don't already have it, and read the man page. Xev will allow you to see which key generates what keycode. Won't help in the console, but using an xwindows environment you can remap your keys as you wish using xmodmap. (read man xmodmap). Sorry for the overgeneralization, but I haven't had the need to do this in a few years, so only vaguely recall what I did... When away from home base, remapping would be preferable, but at home, you might get a full-sized PC keyboard that works the way you expect. You would have to re-configure the key layout every time you switched, but it's something to consider. No problem, you just use shell aliases (or little scripts) and have them point to (for example) .xmodmap0 and xmodmap1, as replacements for the standard xmodmap. Create keybindings to switch from one to the other in your window manager, and at the stroke of a key you can switch from one layout to the other. I know this is all very general and probably sounds dreadfully opaque, but once you have the actual keycodes if you need more help just come back and post the details. Here's the xev output for my Return key, just to show you what to look for. It's different on different keyboards, so this is only an example: KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181, root 0x128, subw 0x0, time 20931520, (-6,197), root:(15,331), state 0x0, keycode 36 (keysym 0xff0d, Return), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) XFilterEvent returns: False So when you see something similar for each key you want to redefine, you know you're on to something. :) Good luck! -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120503034212.GA6321@radhesyama
Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key
(NOTE: please reply inline, so as to preserve the discussion for the archive. Thanks!) On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:56:07AM +0200, Riccardo Romoli wrote: Hi, thanks for reply. Using xev this is what I obtained from the key I would like to re-map: KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x401, root 0x12d, subw 0x0, time 778257, (752,-224), root:(833,354), state 0x0, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff8d, KP_Enter), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) XFilterEvent returns: False Can you paste the response of your right ALT (Alt Gr) so I can understand which is its keycode? You just use xev to get that, as you did above for enter. The codes for mine are not useful to you, I only posted that to give an idea what to look for. :) -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504151713.GA8181@radhesyama
Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key
Hi, but my problem is that I haven't the key I need on my keyboard! So how can I find the code with xev if I haven't the key to generate the code itself? R On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: (NOTE: please reply inline, so as to preserve the discussion for the archive. Thanks!) On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:56:07AM +0200, Riccardo Romoli wrote: Hi, thanks for reply. Using xev this is what I obtained from the key I would like to re-map: KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x401, root 0x12d, subw 0x0, time 778257, (752,-224), root:(833,354), state 0x0, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff8d, KP_Enter), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) XFilterEvent returns: False Can you paste the response of your right ALT (Alt Gr) so I can understand which is its keycode? You just use xev to get that, as you did above for enter. The codes for mine are not useful to you, I only posted that to give an idea what to look for. :) -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504151713.GA8181@radhesyama
Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:29:58PM +0200, Riccardo Romoli wrote: Hi, but my problem is that I haven't the key I need on my keyboard! So how can I find the code with xev if I haven't the key to generate the code itself? R You sure are making me edit a lot by posdting your replies your replies at the top... But I apologise, apparently I was not clear enough. You want to get the keycodes from the keys you're hoping to reassign, not the keys that are what you want already. So for instance, if I want to change right alt to enter, I'd need to determine the keycode for right alt. Hope this is more clear. :) -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504153928.GD8181@radhesyama
Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key
As a matter of fact, I'm on an incredibly slow, painfully unresposive dialup connection -- so I apologise, but it may be I can't get to this in anything like a timely fashion. Your favorite search engine is your friend, however. I use and recommend duckduckgo.com, which showed me these links below. I scanned them, and they look pretty good... Best of luck! :) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4485/reassign-ctl-and-alt-keys-xmodmap-error http://superuser.com/questions/2194/remap-keys-in-linux -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504162932.GA9385@radhesyama
Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key
Hi, I found the easiest way to solve the problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/261573 Regards Riccardo On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: As a matter of fact, I'm on an incredibly slow, painfully unresposive dialup connection -- so I apologise, but it may be I can't get to this in anything like a timely fashion. Your favorite search engine is your friend, however. I use and recommend duckduckgo.com, which showed me these links below. I scanned them, and they look pretty good... Best of luck! :) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4485/reassign-ctl-and-alt-keys-xmodmap-error http://superuser.com/questions/2194/remap-keys-in-linux -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504162932.GA9385@radhesyama
Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 07:05:43PM +0200, Riccardo Romoli wrote: Hi, I found the easiest way to solve the problem: [1]https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/2615 73 Regards Riccardo If that's the punchline, I must have missed something. Oh well, as long as you're happy -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120504172257.GA10208@radhesyama
Macbook pro re-mapping single key
Hi to all, I'm a newbie of Debian but using the Debian-Wiky I was able to install Debian 6 as single boot, on my MacBookPro (v.3.1). The only problem I notice, till now, is about the Alt key. I bought the computer as used from a German guy ignoring that the keyboard has the particularity to has only the left Alt key instead of two. So the right Alt key is replaced by a second ENTER and the left Alt key is used as Meta key instead of Option key. I tried to configure the keyboard with the graphical interface but I wasn't able solve my problem. If, for example I press Alt+Tab, I was able to switch between the different windows, but the Alt key doesn't work both in the various text editors (emacs, gedit...) and in the terminal, to type the extra character such as tilde, square brackets... I think I should re-map my keyboard replacing the extra ENTER with the Alt(Option) key but I have no idea how to do this. Do you have any suggestion? Best Ricardo Sent from iPod
Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key
On 5/2/2012 5:05 PM, Riccardo Romoli wrote: Hi to all, I'm a newbie of Debian but using the Debian-Wiky I was able to install Debian 6 as single boot, on my MacBookPro (v.3.1). The only problem I notice, till now, is about the Alt key. I bought the computer as used from a German guy ignoring that the keyboard has the particularity to has only the left Alt key instead of two. So the right Alt key is replaced by a second ENTER and the left Alt key is used as Meta key instead of Option key. I tried to configure the keyboard with the graphical interface but I wasn't able solve my problem. If, for example I press Alt+Tab, I was able to switch between the different windows, but the Alt key doesn't work both in the various text editors (emacs, gedit...) and in the terminal, to type the extra character such as tilde, square brackets... I think I should re-map my keyboard replacing the extra ENTER with the Alt(Option) key but I have no idea how to do this. Do you have any suggestion? Best Ricardo Sent from iPod Unhelpful, but possibly a good suggestion? : When away from home base, remapping would be preferable, but at home, you might get a full-sized PC keyboard that works the way you expect. You would have to re-configure the key layout every time you switched, but it's something to consider. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fa1e6ac.30...@allums.com
Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key
On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 09:00:12PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: On 5/2/2012 5:05 PM, Riccardo Romoli wrote: Hi to all, I'm a newbie of Debian but using the Debian-Wiky I was able to install Debian 6 as single boot, on my MacBookPro (v.3.1). The only problem I notice, till now, is about the Alt key. I bought the computer as used from a German guy ignoring that the keyboard has the particularity to has only the left Alt key instead of two. So the right Alt key is replaced by a second ENTER and the left Alt key is used as Meta key instead of Option key. I tried to configure the keyboard with the graphical interface but I wasn't able solve my problem. If, for example I press Alt+Tab, I was able to switch between the different windows, but the Alt key doesn't work both in the various text editors (emacs, gedit...) and in the terminal, to type the extra character such as tilde, square brackets... I think I should re-map my keyboard replacing the extra ENTER with the Alt(Option) key but I have no idea how to do this. Do you have any suggestion? Install the package xev if you don't already have it, and read the man page. Xev will allow you to see which key generates what keycode. Won't help in the console, but using an xwindows environment you can remap your keys as you wish using xmodmap. (read man xmodmap). Sorry for the overgeneralization, but I haven't had the need to do this in a few years, so only vaguely recall what I did... When away from home base, remapping would be preferable, but at home, you might get a full-sized PC keyboard that works the way you expect. You would have to re-configure the key layout every time you switched, but it's something to consider. No problem, you just use shell aliases (or little scripts) and have them point to (for example) .xmodmap0 and xmodmap1, as replacements for the standard xmodmap. Create keybindings to switch from one to the other in your window manager, and at the stroke of a key you can switch from one layout to the other. I know this is all very general and probably sounds dreadfully opaque, but once you have the actual keycodes if you need more help just come back and post the details. Here's the xev output for my Return key, just to show you what to look for. It's different on different keyboards, so this is only an example: KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181, root 0x128, subw 0x0, time 20931520, (-6,197), root:(15,331), state 0x0, keycode 36 (keysym 0xff0d, Return), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) XFilterEvent returns: False So when you see something similar for each key you want to redefine, you know you're on to something. :) Good luck! -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120503034212.GA6321@radhesyama
