Re: Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-25 Thread Kent West
Aryan Ameri wrote:

Hi There:

When I want to make a PDF document with KWord (Using print menu), KWord is 
able to make a pdf file, but the result is crappy, many words are not in 
their original position, and all in all, it is unreadable. However, making 
PostScript files works fine, but anyway, windoze users can't view PS files.

Is there any reason why the resulted PDF files are like this? Any way I can 
repair this?

BTW, I am using KOffice 1.2.1, on KDE 3.1.0 RC 5

Cheers
 

Can't answer your question, but you might try making a PS file, and then 
run ps2pdf against it to create a PDF file from the PS file. Maybe your 
results will be better.

Kent



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Re: Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-25 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 15:21, Kent West wrote:
 Aryan Ameri wrote:

 When I want to make a PDF document with KWord (Using print menu), KWord is
 able to make a pdf file, but the result is crappy, many words are not in
 their original position, and all in all, it is unreadable. However, making
 PostScript files works fine, but anyway, windoze users can't view PS
  files.
 
 Is there any reason why the resulted PDF files are like this? Any way I
  can repair this?
 
 BTW, I am using KOffice 1.2.1, on KDE 3.1.0 RC 5

 Can't answer your question, but you might try making a PS file, and then
 run ps2pdf against it to create a PDF file from the PS file. Maybe your
 results will be better.

Well, I guess I know where the problem is being caused. As I said, I can make 
PS files perfectly, and I can pdf them with ps2pdf.However, ps2pdf12 ( which 
produced pdf version 1.2 documents ) works great, but when I try ps2pdf13 ( 
version 1.3) or ps2pdf14 (version 1.4 ), the resulted files are crappy and 
unreadable. I guess because KWord also defaults to pdf version 1.3, that's 
why the problem occures.

Any ideas on why pdf 1.2 documents are produced perfectly, but when I try to 
convert a PS file into PDF 1.3, the resulted file is unreadable ?


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Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-19 Thread Aryan Ameri
Hi There:

When I want to make a PDF document with KWord (Using print menu), KWord is 
able to make a pdf file, but the result is crappy, many words are not in 
their original position, and all in all, it is unreadable. However, making 
PostScript files works fine, but anyway, windoze users can't view PS files.

Is there any reason why the resulted PDF files are like this? Any way I can 
repair this?

BTW, I am using KOffice 1.2.1, on KDE 3.1.0 RC 5

Cheers
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Re: Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:06:47AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote:
 Hi There:
 
 When I want to make a PDF document with KWord (Using print menu), KWord is 
 able to make a pdf file, but the result is crappy, many words are not in 
 their original position, and all in all, it is unreadable. However, making 
 PostScript files works fine, but anyway, windoze users can't view PS files.
 
 Is there any reason why the resulted PDF files are like this? Any way I can 
 repair this?
 
 BTW, I am using KOffice 1.2.1, on KDE 3.1.0 RC 5

I don't use KWord, but I have some experience creating PDF documents
using TeX.  You can create a PS document with TeX and then convert it
to PDF using 'ps2pdf'; the result is usually poor.  Perhaps KWord is
merely creating a PS document and then converting it using 'ps2pdf'?

BTW, using 'texi2pdf' to create a PDF using TeX works really well for
me thus far.  I don't create really advanced PDFs with hyperlinks and
all the extras, I just create PDFs so windows people feel useful.

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Re: Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-19 Thread Alan Shutko
Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You can create a PS document with TeX and then convert it to PDF
 using 'ps2pdf'; the result is usually poor.

Try making your ps file with dvips -Ppdf file.dvi -o file.ps .  That
will use outline fonts for Computer Modern, which is probably what
the problem is.

 Perhaps KWord is merely creating a PS document and then converting
 it using 'ps2pdf'?

Last I looked at it, KWord's PS output outputted PostScript Type 3
fonts, which display poorly in Acrobat Reader.  I don't know if it
still does this, though, I'd need to see a sample PDF from kword to
tell.  (I don't have it installed.)

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Re: Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-19 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Aryan Ameri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
(on Wednesday, 19 March 2003, 11:06 AM +0200):
 When I want to make a PDF document with KWord (Using print menu), KWord is 
 able to make a pdf file, but the result is crappy, many words are not in 
 their original position, and all in all, it is unreadable. However, making 
 PostScript files works fine, but anyway, windoze users can't view PS files.

If the PS file looks fine, try using ps2pdf and see if that works.

(I actually use watchd to watch a directory to which I print PS files;
watchd then converts them to PDF. This works well for 95% of my needs.)

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Re: Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-19 Thread Jan Krupa
 --- Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On
Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:06:47AM +0200, Aryan
 Ameri wrote:
  Hi There:
  
  When I want to make a PDF document with KWord
 (Using print menu), KWord is 
  able to make a pdf file, but the result is crappy,
 many words are not in 
  their original position, and all in all, it is
 unreadable. However, making 
  PostScript files works fine, but anyway, windoze
 users can't view PS files.
  
  Is there any reason why the resulted PDF files are
 like this? Any way I can 
  repair this?
  
  BTW, I am using KOffice 1.2.1, on KDE 3.1.0 RC 5
 
 I don't use KWord, but I have some experience
 creating PDF documents
 using TeX.  You can create a PS document with TeX
 and then convert it
 to PDF using 'ps2pdf'; the result is usually poor. 
Perhaps better is to use pdflatex or pdftex (for
plain)

Jan

 Perhaps KWord is
 merely creating a PS document and then converting it
 using 'ps2pdf'?
 
 BTW, using 'texi2pdf' to create a PDF using TeX
 works really well for
 me thus far.  I don't create really advanced PDFs
 with hyperlinks and
 all the extras, I just create PDFs so windows people
 feel useful.
 
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Re: Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:12:04AM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote:
 Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  You can create a PS document with TeX and then convert it to PDF
  using 'ps2pdf'; the result is usually poor.
 
 Try making your ps file with dvips -Ppdf file.dvi -o file.ps .  That
 will use outline fonts for Computer Modern, which is probably what
 the problem is.

Uh, _I_ know how to create PDF documents that look just fine; I'm
trying to help the OP figure out why KWord creates crappy PDFs but PS
documents that look fine.  Please read the entire email before
replying.

You seem to have snipped the OP's problem and the part where I state I
have made PDFs that look decent.
 
  Perhaps KWord is merely creating a PS document and then converting
  it using 'ps2pdf'?
 
 Last I looked at it, KWord's PS output outputted PostScript Type 3
 fonts, which display poorly in Acrobat Reader.  I don't know if it
 still does this, though, I'd need to see a sample PDF from kword to
 tell.  (I don't have it installed.)

Clearly this is the problem.  Does KWord output TeX files directly?
Otherwise, how can the OP solve his problem?

[I don't use KWord]

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