Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-26 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:50:38 -0400 (EDT), Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com 
 wrote:

 Why don't you just tell us exactly what you are trying to do?

 I have tried a few things and things seem smooth till I cannot
 `svn co svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk`.
 With svn+ssh, I was asked for a password, which I have absolutely no
 idea. Without +ssh, svn just hung there. I do not know what happened.

 That's not what I mean.  Are you trying to install Debian?  Is that
 the end goal?  If so, what's wrong with the standard Debian installer?
 Why do you think you need to customize it?  I've been installing and
 using Debian for ten years, and I have never needed to create a
 custom version of the Debian installer.  What exactly are you trying
 to do and why do you think that you need a customized version of the
 Debian installer to do it?

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Normally, I use general d-i, too. But this time, I'd like to try out
reiser4 as root fs.
I do have other options, like building a new system within an existing
debian installation which supports reiser4. But just out of curiosity,
I think why learning about how to initialize an system and custom the
d-i tool the same time.

I'd have to say, the documents for this task is pretty rare besides
the few on wiki.debian.org. But glad to say I am on my way, just
without a guide.

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Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-24 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:14:07 -0400 (EDT), Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com 
 wrote:

 There are a number of different installation methods available.  They
 are described in the installation instructions.  Use the one that
 suits you best.  What I usually do is take the netboot mini.iso
 image and burn it to a CD-R.  Then I boot from the CD.  But there are
 other alternatives.  For example, you can make a bootable USB stick,
 commonly called a thumb drive, and boot from it.  There are other
 installation methods that allow the installer to be started from a
 pre-existing Unix or Linux system, or from a Windows system.  Years
 ago, you could also create a bootable floppy disk and boot from a
 floppy.  But that installation method is no longer supported.  Etch
 is the last release that supported boot floppy installation.  In
 short, there's no substitute for reading the directions.

 Customing d-i is so hard. Many things confused me on the documents.
 Cannot I just start with debootstrap?

 My reply to another one of your posts applies here also:

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/09/msg02353.html

 Why don't you just tell us exactly what you are trying to do?
 And please stop top posting!

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting

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Sorry for that.
Anyway, I have tried a few things and things seem smooth till I cannot
`svn co svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk`.
With svn+ssh, I was asked for a password, which I have absolutely no
idea. Without +ssh, svn just hung there. I do not know what happened.
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Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-24 Thread Alberto Luaces
Magicloud Magiclouds writes:

 Anyway, I have tried a few things and things seem smooth till I cannot
 `svn co svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk`.
 With svn+ssh, I was asked for a password, which I have absolutely no
 idea. Without +ssh, svn just hung there. I do not know what happened.

svn+ssh access is for developers. For normal users, you should use

svn co svn://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk

as stated in http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/svn .

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Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:50:38 -0400 (EDT), Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:

 Why don't you just tell us exactly what you are trying to do?

 I have tried a few things and things seem smooth till I cannot
 `svn co svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk`.
 With svn+ssh, I was asked for a password, which I have absolutely no
 idea. Without +ssh, svn just hung there. I do not know what happened.

That's not what I mean.  Are you trying to install Debian?  Is that
the end goal?  If so, what's wrong with the standard Debian installer?
Why do you think you need to customize it?  I've been installing and
using Debian for ten years, and I have never needed to create a
custom version of the Debian installer.  What exactly are you trying
to do and why do you think that you need a customized version of the
Debian installer to do it?

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Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-20 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:14:07 -0400 (EDT), Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:

 There are a number of different installation methods available.  They
 are described in the installation instructions.  Use the one that
 suits you best.  What I usually do is take the netboot mini.iso
 image and burn it to a CD-R.  Then I boot from the CD.  But there are
 other alternatives.  For example, you can make a bootable USB stick,
 commonly called a thumb drive, and boot from it.  There are other
 installation methods that allow the installer to be started from a
 pre-existing Unix or Linux system, or from a Windows system.  Years
 ago, you could also create a bootable floppy disk and boot from a
 floppy.  But that installation method is no longer supported.  Etch
 is the last release that supported boot floppy installation.  In
 short, there's no substitute for reading the directions.
 
 Customing d-i is so hard. Many things confused me on the documents.
 Cannot I just start with debootstrap?

My reply to another one of your posts applies here also:

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/09/msg02353.html

Why don't you just tell us exactly what you are trying to do?
And please stop top posting!

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting

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Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-19 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
Customing d-i is so hard. Many things confused me on the documents.
Cannot I just start with debootstrap?

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:31:21 -0400 (EDT), Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:38:14 -0400 (EDT), Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:

 May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual

   or

 http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/installmanual

 I am not quite sure. Is this the document for debian-installer?

 Yes, it is.

 How if
 I do not want to use a special install disk? Or you mean I have to
 make an install disk myself?

 There are a number of different installation methods available.  They
 are described in the installation instructions.  Use the one that
 suits you best.  What I usually do is take the netboot mini.iso
 image and burn it to a CD-R.  Then I boot from the CD.  But there are
 other alternatives.  For example, you can make a bootable USB stick,
 commonly called a thumb drive, and boot from it.  There are other
 installation methods that allow the installer to be started from a
 pre-existing Unix or Linux system, or from a Windows system.  Years
 ago, you could also create a bootable floppy disk and boot from a
 floppy.  But that installation method is no longer supported.  Etch
 is the last release that supported boot floppy installation.  In
 short, there's no substitute for reading the directions.

 --
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Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-11 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
I am not quite sure. Is this the document for debian-installer? How if
I do not want to use a special install disk? Or you mean I have to
make an install disk myself?

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:38:14 -0400 (EDT), Magic clouds wrote:

 May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual

   or

 http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/installmanual

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Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-11 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:31:21 -0400 (EDT), Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:38:14 -0400 (EDT), Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:

 May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual

   or

 http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/installmanual
 
 I am not quite sure. Is this the document for debian-installer?

Yes, it is.

 How if
 I do not want to use a special install disk? Or you mean I have to
 make an install disk myself?

There are a number of different installation methods available.  They
are described in the installation instructions.  Use the one that
suits you best.  What I usually do is take the netboot mini.iso
image and burn it to a CD-R.  Then I boot from the CD.  But there are
other alternatives.  For example, you can make a bootable USB stick,
commonly called a thumb drive, and boot from it.  There are other
installation methods that allow the installer to be started from a
pre-existing Unix or Linux system, or from a Windows system.  Years
ago, you could also create a bootable floppy disk and boot from a
floppy.  But that installation method is no longer supported.  Etch
is the last release that supported boot floppy installation.  In
short, there's no substitute for reading the directions.

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May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-10 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
Hi,
  I mean from a non-Debian linux environment and an empty disk, and internet.
  I'd like to try out reiser4 for root. I have compiled 2.6.35.4 with
reiser4 into .deb, and a disk with reiser4 filesystem.
  Thanks.
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Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-10 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:38:14 -0400 (EDT), Magic clouds wrote:
 
 May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual

   or

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/installmanual

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